putrevus Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 oye einstein dravid laxman already gone and 90 percent of icf and 100 percent of non bhakts want even sachin out and people want guys like rahane in team.. and want to replace even gauti :dontknow: Everyone wanted Sachin to quit after 2007 (round about same age as Strauss) England tour this was after two years 2005/6 in which Sachin scored one hundred in 14 tests and in 23 tests during three years 2005-2007 Sachin scored 3 100s and two were against Bangladesh. Dravid before this England tour last scored overseas 100 in 2006 still they did not quit and they kept fighting thru adversity. Sachin became world bestman in 2011 and Dravid was best Indian batsman in England. Strauss was a opener for team which plays in conditions which favor new ball so it is obvious his average will lower. It is not like Strauss is liability on the field and well those are my views I would like a captain who is with the team thru to tough times.
Old guy Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 Everyone wanted Sachin to quit after 2007 (round about same age as Strauss) England tour this was after two years 2005/6 in which Sachin scored one hundred in 14 tests and in 23 tests during three years 2005-2007 Sachin scored 3 100s and two were against Bangladesh. Dravid before this England tour last scored overseas 100 in 2006 still they did not quit and they kept fighting thru adversity. Sachin became world bestman in 2011 and Dravid was best Indian batsman in England. Strauss was a opener for team which plays in conditions which favor new ball so it is obvious his average will lower. It is not like Strauss is liability on the field and well those are my views I would like a captain who is with the team thru to tough times. he has been struggling for long time tht ashes hundred was his last good innings and comparing with tendulkar really ? go out dig up some stats and show me.. how u compared them
J P K Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 he failed even against indian attack over seas with zaheer injured what more do u need to see he is mediocre? :dontknow: he avgs 54 in india with 3 century in 5 test matches
Old guy Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 he avgs 54 in india with 3 century in 5 test matches im talking abt after ashes victory he has been in really bad form he was a nice player not taking anything away form him but was in pretty shyte form lately and to fail even against india away from home is just :hysterical:
maverick451 Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 Sabby, Why are so determined to put strauss down? He averages over 40 in test matches and has been a very good servant to English cricket and on top of that is a nice guy who never seems to have a bad word to say about the opposition. No-one is saying he is an all time great but on his day he was certaintly a very good opener. I also admire the fact that he doesnt hang around when he realises he's on a downhill slope, unlike say ponting and even I hate to say it on here Laxman who both should have retired a long while ago.
deathmonger Posted August 29, 2012 Author Posted August 29, 2012 Everyone wanted Sachin to quit after 2007 (round about same age as Strauss) England tour this was after two years 2005/6 in which Sachin scored one hundred in 14 tests and in 23 tests during three years 2005-2007 Sachin scored 3 100s and two were against Bangladesh. Dravid before this England tour last scored overseas 100 in 2006 still they did not quit and they kept fighting thru adversity. Sachin became world bestman in 2011 and Dravid was best Indian batsman in England. Strauss was a opener for team which plays in conditions which favor new ball so it is obvious his average will lower. It is not like Strauss is liability on the field and well those are my views I would like a captain who is with the team thru to tough times. LOL even when sachin and dravid were going through their slumps they avgd 50. you know why... because at tehir peaks (Srt - late 90s, dravid - mid 2000s) they were touching 60. strauss never touched 50 during his good years and is now avg 40 in his lean years.
J P K Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 He is actually quitting at the right time - his game has dropped down and with England in trouble there would have been the thought to sack him anyway. It will be surprising if he does retire. He is not a character who chickens out. Very much unlike English. english ? south african :hmmmm2:
deathmonger Posted August 29, 2012 Author Posted August 29, 2012 Sabby, Why are so determined to put strauss down? He averages over 40 in test matches and has been a very good servant to English cricket and on top of that is a nice guy who never seems to have a bad word to say about the opposition. No-one is saying he is an all time great but on his day he was certaintly a very good opener. I also admire the fact that he doesnt hang around when he realises he's on a downhill slope, unlike say ponting and even I hate to say it on here Laxman who both should have retired a long while ago. ponting yes. maybe even dravid. but laxman? his failures are more recent. he only failed in the eng and oz series. series before that he was very good. in s, in sl plus home series.
J P K Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 im talking abt after ashes victory he has been in really bad form he was a nice player not taking anything away form him but was in pretty shyte form lately and to fail even against india away from home is just :hysterical: he was a average player his role was tough it is not easy to well against new ball in those conditions he failed against us @ england being a indian fan u must know it is not easy to play our bowler with new ball
Crookbond Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 Sabby, Why are so determined to put strauss down? He averages over 40 in test matches and has been a very good servant to English cricket and on top of that is a nice guy who never seems to have a bad word to say about the opposition. No-one is saying he is an all time great but on his day he was certaintly a very good opener. I also admire the fact that he doesnt hang around when he realises he's on a downhill slope, unlike say ponting and even I hate to say it on here Laxman who both should have retired a long while ago. Sorry but are you blind or something? Read the complete thread in what context that comment was made. We are welcoming Strauss decision to quit and he's accurate in his judgment. It does not mean we are putting a foot on him. If anything there is more respect for Strauss than most other people in the dressing room.
maverick451 Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 ponting yes. maybe even dravid. but laxman? his failures are more recent. he only failed in the eng and oz series. series before that he was very good. in s, in sl plus home series. I have to be honest I dont exactly his figures series by series but when Laxman toured England I thought he looked well past his best, his reactions seemed to have gone and he looked well over the hill. Honestly no offense at all but Im suprised he didnt retire after that series, Dravid looked the best of the lot and retired first which suprised me, he seemed much fitter than VVS and sachin.
Ultimate_Game Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 Hats off to Smith. 3 Eng tours and 3 English captains retired :hatsoff: Between good for Strauss he retired now else he would have been part of another series defeat in India.
Number Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 At the right time Strauss. He was really struggling with his batting. Definitely one of the most likeable English Cricketer of his generation. Not really liked his batting but he was a good batsman. Averaging overall 40+ is good for an opener.
Old guy Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 Sabby, Why are so determined to put strauss down? He averages over 40 in test matches and has been a very good servant to English cricket and on top of that is a nice guy who never seems to have a bad word to say about the opposition. No-one is saying he is an all time great but on his day he was certaintly a very good opener. I also admire the fact that he doesnt hang around when he realises he's on a downhill slope, unlike say ponting and even I hate to say it on here Laxman who both should have retired a long while ago. im not he was good player.. and was going through bad form and tht doesnt seem like getting better im jsut saying he took good decision and i would like our players too learn a thing from him too :dontknow: but to say he didnt need to retire just cos guys like tendulkar,ponting are still playing i was responding to tht comment.. i think instead of saying strauss should have continued like other players even in bad form at old age other players need to look at strauss :hatsoff:
punjabi_khota Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 Smith. What a man. what a england-captain-****ing machine. 3/3
putrevus Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 LOL even when sachin and dravid were going through their slumps they avgd 50. you know why... because at tehir peaks (Srt - late 90s, dravid - mid 2000s) they were touching 60. strauss never touched 50 during his good years and is now avg 40 in his lean years. Strauss was never in their class as a batsman, that is not point. point is this is not first time he has struggled as batsmen. He quit at the first hint of trouble as captain those are my views.
putrevus Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 I have to be honest I dont exactly his figures series by series but when Laxman toured England I thought he looked well past his best, his reactions seemed to have gone and he looked well over the hill. Honestly no offense at all but Im suprised he didnt retire after that series, Dravid looked the best of the lot and retired first which suprised me, he seemed much fitter than VVS and sachin. You are English supporter right? You happy that Strauss quit or you wanted him to continue till KP saga is over and Cook has got enough time to take over.
carnish Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 Everyone wanted Sachin to quit after 2007 (round about same age as Strauss) England tour this was after two years 2005/6 in which Sachin scored one hundred in 14 tests and in 23 tests during three years 2005-2007 Sachin scored 3 100s and two were against Bangladesh. Dravid before this England tour last scored overseas 100 in 2006 still they did not quit and they kept fighting thru adversity. Sachin became world bestman in 2011 and Dravid was best Indian batsman in England. Strauss was a opener for team which plays in conditions which favor new ball so it is obvious his average will lower. It is not like Strauss is liability on the field and well those are my views I would like a captain who is with the team thru to tough times. Strauss was never in their class as a batsman' date=' that is not point. point is this is not first time he has struggled as batsmen. He quit at the first hint of trouble as captain those are my views.[/quote'] Putrevus, Firstly let me make it clear Strauss was my favourite player in the English batting lineup barring Cook .. Yes I dont like to see KP batting too much and I accept your argument that a captain needs to see his team through difficult times but if you read his statements Strauss clearly says that at his age, he doesnot see himself having enough determination and motivation required to inspire him for delivering what he had been over the years let alone improve upon that and once that stage comes in a players career its usually a correct decision to quit rather than just extending your career without the right attitude for playing the game. He was in my view the best British captain over the last three decades if I may say but this was his end and it was timed just perfect. Your arguments about Dravid and Tendulkar are irrevalent as Sachin still says that he has the will to perform for his team whenever he goes to the ground and the day he wont feel like he is improving he will call it quits.
veer Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 i can guarantee that Dhoni is going to retire in same fashion.. he will retire when very few will be expecting...
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