CSK Fan Posted August 17, 2014 Posted August 17, 2014 That's not the problem - the issue is of a confused leadership group for people who play across formats. Lets not get paranoid. But you know how powerful he is. Why would any young captain want to antagonize him and his favorites? Would he dare? Particularly since Dhoni will have Srini's backing every time?
Marut Posted August 17, 2014 Posted August 17, 2014 Dhoni has seriously hurt his legacy. From now on, I don't think his name should ever be invoked in any discussions on test captains. He is the specialist of whitewashes, near-whitewashes and innings defeats. India has played like Bangladesh for the past three years when playing abroad, heck even Bangla may do better.
zep1706 Posted August 17, 2014 Posted August 17, 2014 Dhoni has seriously hurt his legacy. From now on' date=' I don't think his name should ever be invoked in any discussions on test captains. He is the specialist of whitewashes, near-whitewashes and innings defeats. India has played like Bangladesh for the past three years when playing abroad, heck even Bangla may do better.[/quote'] Who cares about legacy when he is making real $$$. :cantstop:
Fontaine Posted August 17, 2014 Posted August 17, 2014 Yeah go ahead sack Dhoni. Sack the rest of the team with him. This spineless team can go to hell. I would rather the Indian Women's Team tour instead of these over paid, over hyped, cowards.
helperononline Posted August 17, 2014 Posted August 17, 2014 the sacking should start with fletcher and end with dhoni
CSK Fan Posted August 17, 2014 Posted August 17, 2014 Yeah go ahead sack Dhoni. Sack the rest of the team with him. This spineless team can go to hell. I would rather the Indian Women's Team tour instead of these over paid, over hyped, cowards. Most of the rest of the team are on their first English tour. Pujara and Kohli have failed after a long, long time. Only constant in 3 years is Dhoni. Why would you sack youngsters on theri first tour of England?
Crookbond Posted August 17, 2014 Posted August 17, 2014 But you know how powerful he is. Why would any young captain want to antagonize him and his favorites? Would he dare? Particularly since Dhoni will have Srini's backing every time? If Srini is what you're worried about, that won't change even after Dhoni goes away from the team. It isn't about power here - it is simply about cricket. Lets not get into kaanspiracy theories. Sack Dhoni as captain across all formats and keep him in the team only based on results.
Sachin=GOD Posted August 17, 2014 Posted August 17, 2014 John Etheridge @JohnSunCricket 4m Dhoni to quit as Test captain? When asked if he's taken India as far as he can, Dhoni replied: “Maybe, yes. You’ll have to wait and watch.” If only...
maniac Posted August 17, 2014 Posted August 17, 2014 Most of the rest of the team are on their first English tour. Pujara and Kohli have failed after a long' date=' long time. Only constant in 3 years is Dhoni. Why would you sack youngsters on theri first tour of England?[/quote'] Agree....can't blame any of the youngsters or newbies and that includes even the likes of binny,jadeja or pankaj Singh
someone Posted August 17, 2014 Posted August 17, 2014 Doesn't work like that. If you want to make changes, make changes. And one series should not be a deciding point for anything. So Kohli failed in one series, big deal. Even the best have failed in one series. If you believe he is captaincy material make him captain. If not, don't Stop gap captaincy have never worked in the past. Ad hoc captains always perform differently from someone who is given complete freedom. Even if Dhoni takes a break it will still be Dhoni's team and no one would want to piss him off so the same favorites will be selected. Nothing will change And what you said certainly doesn't work. If you want to solve a problem, find the root cause. The root cause is batsman failed, and yet, you don't want to address that. Instead, you want to promote one failed batsman this series as new captain. So you are rewarding a failed performance. Great work Sure, Dhoni as captain failed but he wasn't the reason we lost. Give another captain, same set of players, it would have been the same thing. Till, our players especially our batsman which is our strength learn to apply themselves overseas, we aren't going to do well away. Changes need to happen, firstly with our team, certain players should no longer be in our test team. Look, I do think Dhoni should eventually not be the captain of the team but let's not make that our only objective. We need more better players, attitude and professionalism.
asterix Posted August 17, 2014 Posted August 17, 2014 John Etheridge @JohnSunCricket 4m Dhoni to quit as Test captain? When asked if he's taken India as far as he can, Dhoni replied: “Maybe, yes. You’ll have to wait and watch.” If only... :pray:
FreakazoiD Posted August 17, 2014 Posted August 17, 2014 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/28830116 Mahendra Dhoni: India captain hints he may quit after defeat India captain Mahendra Dhoni hinted he may stand down as skipper following his side's 3-1 Test series defeat in England. The innings-and-244-run loss in the fifth Test at The Oval extended India's run of away form to only one win in 19 Tests. Asked if he had taken the team as far as he can, Dhoni said: "Maybe, yes. "You'll have to wait and watch. If I'm strong enough or not strong enough, you'll have to wait and get the news." ...
velu Posted August 17, 2014 Posted August 17, 2014 Just a question' date=' do you actually watch any of the matches? Never see you on match threads or comment anything about the match itself, just the scorecard and Dhoni's scores. I doubt if you even follow test mathces[/quote'] not a fan of live match threads .. probably i might have watched max 10 or 11 hours in this series live .. and mostly i do multitasking .. when the team you support is doing really worse , its very difficult to watch unless someone likes BDSM
maniac Posted August 17, 2014 Posted August 17, 2014 And what you said certainly doesn't work. If you want to solve a problem, find the root cause. The root cause is batsman failed, and yet, you don't want to address that. Instead, you want to promote one failed batsman this series as new captain. So you are rewarding a failed performance. Great work Sure, Dhoni as captain failed but he wasn't the reason we lost. Give another captain, same set of players, it would have been the same thing. Till, our players especially our batsman which is our strength learn to apply themselves overseas, we aren't going to do well away. Changes need to happen, firstly with our team, certain players should no longer be in our test team. For starters,the biggest issue we lost the series more than batting or for the matter of fact bowling is fielding. Dropped catches,missed catches etc. Now you might say why blame the captain for that. For not getting the right fielders in the right positions. For missing catches as a keeper as well as having fielders stand way behind for 75mph bowlers. For having spinners bowl a defensive line. Had we held our catches or created chances,the batting would have done a lot better thanks to no scoreboard pressure.
velu Posted August 17, 2014 Posted August 17, 2014 Most of the rest of the team are on their first English tour. Pujara and Kohli have failed after a long' date=' long time. Only constant in 3 years is Dhoni. Why would you sack youngsters on theri first tour of England?[/quote'] dhoni did well .. your alernate keeprs might not have sored more than dhoni
zep1706 Posted August 17, 2014 Posted August 17, 2014 If Srini is what you're worried about' date=' that won't change even after Dhoni goes away from the team. It isn't about power here - it is simply about cricket. Lets not get into kaanspiracy theories. Sack Dhoni as captain across all formats and keep him in the team only based on results.[/quote'] There is no conspiracy theory here. Amarnath has come out and said that the selectors had removed Dhoni from captaincy after the Australia tour and Srinivasan saved him. Not only that Amarnath was removed from his post.
Austin 3:!6 Posted August 17, 2014 Posted August 17, 2014 He must remain captain in all formats. As usual fellow ICF'ers failed to identify the real issue and blaming everything on captaincy.
someone Posted August 17, 2014 Posted August 17, 2014 For starters,the biggest issue we lost the series more than batting or for the matter of fact bowling is fielding. Dropped catches,missed catches etc. Now you might say why blame the captain for that. For not getting the right fielders in the right positions. For missing catches as a keeper as well as having fielders stand way behind for 75mph bowlers. For having spinners bowl a defensive line. Had we held our catches or created chances,the batting would have done a lot better thanks to no scoreboard pressure. So now a captain must teach our fielders how to catch? And next, our bowlers on how to bowl. :haha: Sure, Dhoni didn't have great captaincy but then the options available to him were very poor. Btw, we lost the series on poor batting, bowling was always a weakness and we were always gonna bank on our strength, batting. And ultimately, at the end of our series, it's our batting which has more questions marks whereas our bowling is still the constant, the same old questions.
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