rkt.india Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 ^^You cant really discount performances against "weak" teams because test cricket is played only among 10 nations and if you remove the weak teams' date=' cricket is basically a 3 or 4 team game. :cantstop:[/quote'] Not discounting, just saying cannot compare performance of a bowler against SA batting and Pak batting. Performance against batting will always be counted higher. Link to comment
diga Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Now the Aussie high performance chief Pat Howard questions Watson's commitment. Says Watson plays for the team 'sometimes'. Think this should be the end of Watson's international career. One of the comments in Foxsports site : "now if only the aussie bowlers produce as much spin as their administrators, Aussies would not have been down 2-0" :haha: Link to comment
diga Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 good to see Patto not sulking even when he should Hasnt Patto been rotated out... ? :--D Link to comment
NareshK Posted March 12, 2013 Author Share Posted March 12, 2013 good to see Patto not sulking even when he should He is still young with a long career ahead of him. He has no choice but to take it on the chin. He will be furious inside though. He bowls his heart out in 35 degrees Chennai heat on a pitch with no help for pace bowlers and takes 5 wickets and gets treated like this. :headshake: Link to comment
G_B_ Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 When Simpson took over, Australia had not won a Test match in 14 attempts and had gone without winning a series in 2 years. Talk about being cr@p! Pattinson's argument is straw man! The team management lets off the players who let the team down due to cricket and censures players for off the field things like 3-point notes & wellness repors? I don't think this makes any sense. The ex-players have rightly criticized this stupidity. This includes Alan Border and Ian Chappell - two of the harshest critiques you will ever come across. and who did they face during those 2 years?. We need to know the calibre of opposition they were facing Link to comment
phaedrus Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 well its about the attitude. having a bad day at the office is totally different from not following protocol. Again, the penalties are very, very harsh but those two situations cant be compared. it was 3 points, ffs. how much time does it take? as much as the management looks bad, the players havent covered themselves in glory either Link to comment
Crookbond Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 and who did they face during those 2 years?. We need to know the calibre of opposition they were facing A team which goes 14 Test matches without a victory against any opposition is quite poor and mediocre. In any case, fathom this No code has to be inserted here. Losing 3 Test matches to NZ was very poor. I am making a very simple point - the team which Bob Simpson took over was even more cr@p than the current team. At least they have couple of series victories (including a 4-0 whitewash) at home unlike the team of Simpson. Link to comment
carnish Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Starc and Siddle will rattle India out ... Aussies don't need no Pattinson ... All they need is a PAT-IN-THE-BACK Link to comment
G_B_ Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 well to be fair that NZ team with Hadlee was one of the best NZ teams of all time. They even beat England in 1986 at home and did the same v India in nz. (i think not sure on the india part). Same with the WI to be honest, they were legendary there. Even Zimbabwe during the 80s were very good. Link to comment
Needforspeed Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Its not a question of not writing the 3 points. Its a question of deliberately defying the boss (Coach/ Captain). If you are asked to do something by the boss and you dont do it, then there has to be consequences. Otherwise, the guys who did it end up looking stupid and next time the boss asks everyone to do somethin, no one will do it. Link to comment
Crookbond Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 well to be fair that NZ team with Hadlee was one of the best NZ teams of all time. They even beat England in 1986 at home and did the same v India in nz. (i think not sure on the india part). Same with the WI to be honest, they were legendary there. Even Zimbabwe during the 80s were very good. You're clearly mistaken about Zimbabwe - they were minnows. You can't deny that Australia were very poor after 1983 - no one does, despite the quality of the opposition they placed. In any case, Pattinson's claim is that they were the "top team" in the world. Straw man once again & cricket basics don't change. Link to comment
Crookbond Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 The coach/captain also asked not to play cross batted shots before the 2nd innings and yet Hughes/Warner played them and got OUT to them leaving the team in a vulnerable position for the whole series. How about drawing a "line in the sand" for these guys? You want to make an example for cricketers - common sense says that cricketing reasons are much better than non-cricketing ones. Link to comment
Sachin=GOD Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Now if they lose 4-0 they have an excuse :headshake: Link to comment
Lord Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Now if they lose 4-0 they have an excuse :headshake: we won't if we don't:giggle: Link to comment
Lord Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 ^pessimist :headshake: realist.seen it before.take a series lead and convert a win into draw to ensure series win Link to comment
shehanwije Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Axing crisis: Pattinson admits error, Watson under fire (Mohali) http://cricketcrowd.com/displayvideo.html?ccvideo=6486&ccdesc=Axing+crisis:+Pattinson+admits+error,+Watson+under+fire+(Mohali) Link to comment
adi B Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 I think someone will intervene and sort it out. I just cant see Aussies leaving out Pattinson. pattinson might play,he regrets Link to comment
adi B Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 CA and coach mickey mouse are clowns of the highest order Link to comment
adi B Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 I was just trying to imagine what would happen if Pakistani cricketers were given this homework assignment. :hysterical: :hysterical::hysterical::hysterical: Link to comment
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