Lord Posted March 15, 2013 Posted March 15, 2013 Even he's done MUCH better! can someone explain this post?
NareshK Posted March 15, 2013 Posted March 15, 2013 He needs to become lot more consistent and patient. On Indian wickets, there is not a lot of help for fast bowlers. Its the spinners who do the damage and seamers are there to give them support and try to put pressure. So average will always be high for them.
Crookbond Posted March 15, 2013 Posted March 15, 2013 He needs to become lot more consistent and patient. On Indian wickets' date=' there is not a lot of help for fast bowlers. Its the spinners who do the damage and seamers are there to give them support and try to put pressure. So average will always be high for them.[/quote'] What happened to those averages by Zaheer, Srinath and Kapil? They bowled on similar wickets.
NareshK Posted March 15, 2013 Posted March 15, 2013 What happened to those averages by Zaheer' date=' Srinath and Kapil? They bowled on similar wickets.[/quote'] 3 bowlers in all our history. That again proves how rarely successful fast bowlers in India can be. How did Aussie bowlers bowl in the first 2 tests ? They were largely ineffective and looked mediocre but these very bowlers create all sorts of problems in Eng, Aus and SA. Again, I'm not saying Ishant is bowling great. He needs to improve a lot, especially his wrist position so he can land the ball on seam and have more control. I wont have a problem if he is replaced.
saneindian Posted March 15, 2013 Posted March 15, 2013 Blame a clueless team management who just cannot look beyond him despite there being clear signs of him struggling.
Zap_Brannigan Posted March 15, 2013 Posted March 15, 2013 Ishant can't get a wicket Dhoni can't win a toss Bhajji can't take a wicket Kholi can't take a catch
rkt.india Posted March 15, 2013 Posted March 15, 2013 Post #11 proves everything why he is still what we think he is. He has really struggled in his last 12-13 tests, not even 20 wickets Since WI tour to India in 2011 and that has really depleted his stats and that is not his fault but selectors who are keep picking despite him being struggling with technical issues in his bowling. They are keep playing him in a hope that he will turn a corner but if he continues to play it will do more harm than good for him.
rkt.india Posted March 15, 2013 Posted March 15, 2013 What happened to those averages by Zaheer' date=' Srinath and Kapil? They bowled on similar wickets.[/quote'] They are all poor averages.
Crookbond Posted March 15, 2013 Posted March 15, 2013 They are all poor averages. And he's even poorer than those poor averages. Enough said.
The Dark Horse Posted March 15, 2013 Posted March 15, 2013 We should try new bowlers like Bhuvan..I think Ishant should be replaced by Shami
singhprakash72 Posted March 15, 2013 Posted March 15, 2013 He's India's answer to Mohd. Sami :cantstop: ...Sami must be cussing Ae Khuda aye sa maine kya kiya jo mujhe Dhoni jaisa Kaptan nahin mila
express bowling Posted March 15, 2013 Posted March 15, 2013 After 50 Tests Kapil Dev 200 & 29.33 Srinath 185 @ 29.24 Zaheer Khan 160 @ 33.33 Ishant 138 @ 40 (approx.) So we are producing a worse pacer every decade. In 2023 we may have a pacer who will take 97 wickets from 50 tests @ 53. :((
saneindian Posted March 15, 2013 Posted March 15, 2013 Looking at the stats, Venkatraghavan retired with 156 wickets@36 in 57 tests..Ishant has 6 tests and 16 wickets to go
fineleg Posted March 15, 2013 Author Posted March 15, 2013 ^ Totally different era Srinivas Venkat and today!
carnish Posted March 16, 2013 Posted March 16, 2013 Ishant is a beast at Mohali and a Rat at every other venue. Dont judge him by what he does at Mohali.
rkt.india Posted March 17, 2013 Posted March 17, 2013 Yes. Mohili has always been lucky for unlucky Ishant and due to this, he has kept his place for a few more tests. :wall:
Texan Posted March 18, 2013 Posted March 18, 2013 Kumar gets 3 wickets yesterday and still Ishant gets to bowl today and no overs for Kumar :s: Strange ways of Mahendra Singh Dhoni.
FreakazoiD Posted March 18, 2013 Posted March 18, 2013 Didn't get to see the action live - what was Ishant's speed like? Was he touching 140 kmph at least?
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