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most of paki's bowled between 138-143 today wahab especiallty was grimacing but still slow..dont go with above entries...lol pakis please post some videos if you can..of speed demon junaid

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You watched them does not prove anything.
It carries heck of a lot more than your shenanigans, given that you havnt seen them.
You did not speedometers in your eyes. Neither other experts and players. So you cannot be sure what pace they were clocking.
So players cant tell if you are just as fast as Thommo, despite facing them both ? Right. So Gavaskar is wrong when he said that Marshall and Holding were just as fast as Thommo, but you, a random 20 year old kid who hasnt seen any of them in action, says otherwise and we must go with your verdict. Egoism of the youth is a common affliction- lets hope you will recover from it.
I bet Marshall would hardly bowl even one over all ball at over 150KPH let alone 30 balls in a spell. He did not have the action to bowl express pace. He was certainly fast around 90 mph like Yadavs and Styen's but saying he bowled 20 overs over 150 KPH at every ball is as ridiculous as anything can get.
You know nothing of what action is good and what isnt. The other day you were trying to convince me that Lee had a good action despite the fact that Lee's action caused him numerous ankle injuries. Those who have McGrath-esque stamina, like Marshall and Holding, could bowl at their express speeds all day. If McGrath could've had the stamina to bowl at 135kph all day long without dropping pace, it is not impossible for somoene who bowls at 150kph to do so all day if he had equal amounts of stamna.
I can say that Thommo and Holding could bowl 95 mph but even they would not bowl 20 overs in a day at an average speed of 95 mph.
I dont care what you say. I care about what people who've faced them say. Pretty much everyone who's faced holding says that he is the fastest bowler (a shade faster than Marshall) over extended periods of time, as Holding could hold his pace for the whole day. Ask any of the Englishmen who faced him at the oval where he took 16 wickets while bowling like 60 overs in the match. Their word means more than yours.
Akhtar could do that in his early days but later his fitness worn off and it is not just about Akhtar.
False. Akhtar never in his career bowled more than six overs at a trot.
It is for every bowler. I am not saying Akhtar would bowl at an average speed of 95 mph whole day for 20-25 overs.
No it isnt. McGrath bowled at 135 all day long. If he can bowl at his natural speed all day long without dropping pace, i dont see why someone who's natural speed is 150kph couldnt be fit enough to bowl at that speed all day long.
It is humanly impossible to maintain that speed like the fastest runner in the world Bolt cannot maintain the same speed for long distances. Even the fastest animal in the world Cheetah who is supposed to be stronger, quicker and more agile than human cannot manage to run fast for and you implying that these bowlers could do that and without any evidence.
The Deer is only 10kph slower than the Cheetah's stop speed, yet the Deer can maintain its speed for up to 4kms while the cheetah cannot. Bowling fast is not akin to 100m running where it is all about effort and technique. Fast bowling is less about effort, more about technique. Holding bowled an effortless style- he cranked out 150kph just going through the motion, so fine was his technique. When you ally natural speed with stamina, like Holding, McGrath and Marshall did, you could bowl at your natural speed all day long. As for evidence- Holding himself was timed just a shade slower than Thommo at WSC, clocking at 97mph. Batsmen who've faced Holding, Thommo and Marshall single them out for being able to maintain their extreme speed all day, because their speed was generated from effortless actions (Holding had the perfect momentum transfer of any bowler, Marshall had an Akram-esque fast arm action and Thommo was the perfect height for generating extreme pace from a round arm action). So when there is record of these guys being superfast and the batsmen who've faced them say they were superfast and could maintain their pace all day long, I'd take their word for it over the ignorant ideas of what is and what is not possible from a kid who knows nothing of fast bowling.
You are talking like you yourself have measured every delivery of them clocked over 150 kph. Generally agreed is not an evidence and does not always mean a truth. You can agree about yes they could bowl quick but saying they could bowl 95 mph 150 balls a day in a test match is ridiculous.
As i said, I'd rather take Gavaskar's word for it and people who've faced Holding and Marshall over your idiotic impossible/possible statements. There are plenty of ex-West Indies players kicking around North America and if you are involved with any sort of organized Cricket in the NAs, you will run into them. When Roy Fredericks told me personally that Holding and Marshall were monsters who could bowl at the extreme speed all day long, i will easily take his word on it over kids like you who have no basis of making any claims on how fast Holding or Marshall were. You havnt seen them. You have barely seen cricket for more than 15 years at best. You've barely started to comprehend what cricket is no more than 10 years ago. You also know virtually nothing about fast bowling- pretty much passing off your ignorant tripe as some sort of wisdom. As i said kid, talk less and listen more. You may learn something. I can tell you this much- your concept of fast bowling is amatuerish. There are 15 year old kids aspiring to be fast bowlers who know more than you do. I feel like an idiot when people like Joel Garner talk about fast bowling but you make me look like a professor compared to you. So talk less and listen more.
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U hate him like he is no Indian...:p
He has the worst economy of any bowler in the world. Please admit it, if he was 5k slower, you would be abusing him too
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Those who have McGrath-esque stamina, like Marshall and Holding, could bowl at their express speeds all day. If McGrath could've had the stamina to bowl at 135kph all day long without dropping pace, it is not impossible for somoene who bowls at 150kph to do so all day if he had equal amounts of stamna. No it isnt. McGrath bowled at 135 all day long. If he can bowl at his natural speed all day long without dropping pace, i dont see why someone who's natural speed is 150kph couldnt be fit enough to bowl at that speed all day long. The Deer is only 10kph slower than the Cheetah's stop speed, yet the Deer can maintain its speed for up to 4kms while the cheetah cannot. Bowling fast is not akin to 100m running where it is all about effort and technique. Fast bowling is less about effort, more about technique. Holding bowled an effortless style- he cranked out 150kph just going through the motion, so fine was his technique. When you ally natural speed with stamina, like Holding, McGrath and Marshall did, you could bowl at your natural speed all day long. .
This is the first time I am listening that you don't need to put effort in bowling fast. The technique you are talking about just helps you direct your efforts in a right way and not waste them and it is a fact the slower you are, the more chance you have to maintain your speeds and no 135 was not McGrath's top speed. In his early days, he could crank up to over 140s and even when he slowed down, it is not like he would maintain it whole day. He would even go below 130K sometimes. And then you cannot compare humans to deer. Deer can maintain because they are made to do that, but not us. Does not matter how great a stamina you have, you will struggle to maintain your pace throughout the day bowling 25 overs in a test.
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He has the worst economy of any bowler in the world. Please admit it' date=' if he was 5k slower, you would be abusing him too[/quote'] Yes. He is bowling poorly. There is no harm admitting it. I will play likes of Mohit Sharma ahead of if he bowls like that.

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