Old guy Posted July 23, 2013 Posted July 23, 2013 Didnt he clocked 152-3 during India tour' date='I have seen him bowl between late 140's to early 150's on numerous occasions,I think we might see guys like Overton ,toppley and tyfield in poms jersey,coz barring fin and to some extent meaker no body is genuine quick,Overton we know is seriously quick,can be a handy bat as well,toppley and tyfield brings left arm angle into play,along with pace,their is so much sameness in English pace attack pace wise right now,these guys would be a welcome addition to their squad[/quote'] yes finn can clock 150 but he is no express bowler most bowlers today are sharp but not express who bowl 150k every 2nd or 3rd ball
rkt.india Posted July 23, 2013 Author Posted July 23, 2013 Finn was clocking 90 MPH in first test' date='even Harris bowled at decent pace,sp not sure about that[/quote'] Even Watson clocked 86 mph. Speed guns were not at fault. Anderson was consistently clocking 85 mph plus. Even Bresnan clocked 86 mph plus.
Old guy Posted July 23, 2013 Posted July 23, 2013 Even Watson clocked 86 mph. Speed guns were not at fault. Anderson was consistently clocking 85 mph plus. Even Bresnan clocked 86 mph plus. what do u mean by even watson ? if he wants to up the pace for one ball he can anderson for most part is near 86 mph last year he looked injured so was slower maybe its mixture of aussie speed guns being little quicker and english little slower speed wise i always thought pattinson bowled quicker than he should against us..if naything this is is real pace which he will ball at in most of his career atleast this is what i feel while looking ath is action and build few 90 mph deliveries but mostly slower than that nayway pace was not problem here it was his line of attack but ofc now he iwll escape every criticism cos maybe (yes only maybe ) he was injured during the match if that was case then i dont know why he was even selected to play
rkt.india Posted July 23, 2013 Author Posted July 23, 2013 Didnt he clocked 152-3 during India tour' date='I have seen him bowl between late 140's to early 150's on numerous occasions,I think we might see guys like Overton ,toppley and tyfield in poms jersey,coz barring fin and to some extent meaker no body is genuine quick,Overton we know is seriously quick,can be a handy bat as well,toppley and tyfield brings left arm angle into play,along with pace,their is so much sameness in English pace attack pace wise right now,these guys would be a welcome addition to their squad[/quote'] Finn is a rhythm bowler. Normally, he bowls 140-145, can bowl quicker too but not all the time. Jamie Overton and Reece Topley both are too raw right now. Saw both of them in county once and Topley barely clocking 80 mph while Overton was barely crossing 85 mph. They lack stamina to sustain any pace and if they strive hard that will lead to back fractures. Tymal Mills is one real quick bowler. He is not much older than these two, but perhaps having West Indian genes have helped him being much stronger than these two.
rkt.india Posted July 23, 2013 Author Posted July 23, 2013 what do u mean by even watson ? if he wants to up the pace for one ball he can anderson for most part is near 86 mph last year he looked injured so was slower I meant if you think speed guns were slow then Watson must have been clocking 90 mph, not just Watson but every bowler most of the deliveries which was not the case. Because Finn clocked 88-92 mph in first test and we know that is the kind of speed Finn can bowl when in rhythm. So I would say speed guns were right. I too thought that speed guns were slow last year when England bowlers were clocking between 80-85 mph but on same speed guns, Tino Best and Shannon Gabriel clocked 87-93 mph.
Old guy Posted July 23, 2013 Posted July 23, 2013 I meant if you think speed guns were slow then Watson must have been clocking 90 mph' date=' not just Watson but every bowler most of the deliveries which was not the case. Because Finn clocked 88-92 mph in first test and we know that is the kind of speed Finn can bowl when in rhythm. So I would say speed guns were right. I too thought that speed guns were slow last year when England bowlers were clocking between 80-85 mph but on same speed guns, Tino Best and Shannon Gabriel clocked 87-93 mph.[/quote'] i see..to me pattinson reduced pace by 5k's and aussie speed guns were quicker imho
saneindian Posted July 23, 2013 Posted July 23, 2013 Play Jackson Bird and James Faulkner at least they are not likely to break down after one test.
Sidhoni Posted July 23, 2013 Posted July 23, 2013 And that is why they bowled him in 4 over spells in India
vayuu1 Posted July 23, 2013 Posted July 23, 2013 yes finn can clock 150 but he is no express bowler most bowlers today are sharp but not express who bowl 150k every 2nd or 3rd ball Self edited
Laaloo Posted July 23, 2013 Posted July 23, 2013 The rat who escaped sinking ship :phehehe: making fun of someones injury? classless
rkt.india Posted July 23, 2013 Author Posted July 23, 2013 Tearful Pattinson falls victim to batting failures Not only has Australia's dreadful batting cost the team a 2-0 deficit after as many Ashes Tests, it has now claimed a human casualty in the form of the young fast bowler James Pattinson. Fighting back tears the morning after he was diagnosed with a back stress fracture that has ended his tour, Pattinson admitted that a lack of rest between bowling innings at Lord's had contributed to his injury. It had been thought that the older and injury-prone Ryan Harris would be most susceptible to physical breakdown after little more than three hours separated England's first and second innings at Lord's, but it was Pattinson who suffered most. He felt stiffness on the second day and grew increasingly worried as it worsened across the match. His dismissal by Graeme Swann on the fourth evening after an innings of admirably stubborn refusal to yield will be Pattinson's last memory of the series. "When you go out doing what you do it's hard on the body and in an ideal world you'd like a bit more rest than that. It's far from ideal," Pattinson said. "You go out there and put your body on the line and you're playing for your country ... once I get a bit more mature, I've said it a thousand times before, but I'm still hoping one day my body is going to mature and I'll be able to do that back-up not just for two Tests but five. "It could have been worse, but it's pretty shattering something you've worked so hard for is taken away. It's a hard road ... it's not as bad as what it was before in the past when I've had six to twelve months out of the game, which is pretty hard and a few lonely days in the MCG gym getting back towards playing. So I'll go through that again but I'm in a positive frame of mind that one day it'll get better and hopefully it does, so fingers crossed." In the conversations Pattinson had on Monday night after learning of the extent of his ailment, the name of England's spearhead James Anderson was raised as a source of hope. Having endured his own nightmarish run of injuries as a younger man, Anderson has matured into a bowler as durable as he is skilful, illustrated by his ability to bowl a 13-over spell to help England to victory in Nottingham before backing up at Lord's. "That has been thrown up overnight, in conversations about Jimmy Anderson, whose career started with a lot of injuries," Pattinson said. "There are a dozen other bowlers in the same position. You live in hope that one day it will go away. I am only 23. I am pretty happy with what I have achieved in the game so far but I would like to have fewer setbacks. I am a pretty strong person and I think I can bounce back strong and come back bigger better and stronger than I did last time." As for his own approach to bowling, which so far has erred on the side of full throttle just about every ball of his life, Pattinson said as he matured he would learn how better to move up and down through the gears, much as Anderson and Dale Steyn have done. "In games you can sum up when it is swinging. It is not in my personal makeup to go out and not give 100 percent. I like bowling fast," Pattinson said. "Dale Steyn sometimes bowls within himself and picks the right time to go hard. I am not at that stage yet. I have to go 100 percent to make sure I am in the team and performing for my country. When I get older there will be times I can do that. "At training I go pretty hard too. I can look at that. Personally, the only way is to give everything you got. I am very proud of representing Australia and it is something I love doing. It is disappointing to work your **** off and have it taken away." http://www.espncricinfo.com/the-ashes-2013/content/story/654431.html
Laaloo Posted July 23, 2013 Posted July 23, 2013 This is why I didnt put too much blame on the bowlers during Eng tour 2012. Albeit they sucked but when your famed batting lineup cant last for more than 40/50/60 overs and barely get past 300 with tailenders slogging, it's hard for bowlers to come up with a good performance over and over again. It's bad enough that our bowlers suck but when they have such a low amount of rest, no wonder eng made 700+ in one of the tests
Bleed-Blue Posted July 23, 2013 Posted July 23, 2013 Could just see this coming.... Replace him with Cummins or Hilfenhaus
Laaloo Posted July 23, 2013 Posted July 23, 2013 Could just see this coming.... Replace him with Cummins or Hilfenhaus Dont know about hinfenhaus but cummins is in South Africa. They have jackson bird and faulkner or starc in the squad. I reckon next game they will play starc/bird and lyon for agar and pattinson.
cowboysfan Posted July 24, 2013 Posted July 24, 2013 he is blaming the aussies batting for his injury and that is just wrong.If you cant bowl 20 overs a day then you should not be playing test cricket.
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