rkt.india Posted March 14, 2014 Posted March 14, 2014 are you really trying to troll me again ? we all know when he changed technique and that is just before recent test tours now from what i remember the great finn has not even played a first class match in that period of time Because Finn was struggling, it does mean Rahane did not struggle. I only said he struggled big time then. He did not get to face any genuine pacer in NZ in ODIs. He did well in SA against pace in tests but ODIs are a completely different thing.
The Outsider Posted March 14, 2014 Posted March 14, 2014 So, a player struggles against pace in ODIs, but plays sublime innings against pace in tests. Pretty average trolling.
Gollum Posted March 14, 2014 Posted March 14, 2014 If Rohit Sharma plays we won't chase more than 140.
rkt.india Posted March 14, 2014 Posted March 14, 2014 So' date=' a player struggles against pace in ODIs, but plays sublime innings against pace in tests. Pretty average trolling.[/quote'] Because you can wait for bad balls in tests and can bide your time, but in ODIs, you cannot afford that where 280-300 are bar minimum these days.
The Outsider Posted March 14, 2014 Posted March 14, 2014 Because you can wait for bad balls in tests and can bide your time' date=' but in ODIs, you cannot afford that where 280-300 are bar minimum these days.[/quote'] That is not struggling against pace. And, anyhow your earlier theory was that he would struggle in tests as well, which did not work out very well.
Switchblade Posted March 14, 2014 Posted March 14, 2014 This dew factor is super annoying. I hope most of the games are played in the morning where due is not an issue. The games main ones are at 7 p.m
rkt.india Posted March 14, 2014 Posted March 14, 2014 That is not struggling against pace. And, anyhow your earlier theory was that he would struggle in tests as well, which did not work out very well. Look at how many times he has been dismissed by pace bowler early on. Finn exposed him in return ODI series at home. He struggled against him big time. My theory was that he used to have minimum front foot movement in ODIs which lead to his downfall on several occasions against pacers and then I had said if he played like that in tests too, he will struggle, but he proved that assessment wrong and there is no shame accepting that. I loved the way he batted in SA and NZ in test matches because inside I wanted him to succeed, the reason I opened a jinx thread for him after Delhi test :winky: but he is yet to decode batting in ODIs, especially against pacers.
The Outsider Posted March 14, 2014 Posted March 14, 2014 It has nothing to do with pace bowling. He is unable to rotate the strike and play with soft hands. That is an adjustment issue and not a struggle against pace.
Switchblade Posted March 14, 2014 Posted March 14, 2014 Only enjoyed the 2007 and 2009 T20 WC after that lost interest.
Switchblade Posted March 14, 2014 Posted March 14, 2014 Revamped World Twenty20 searches for identity http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/cricket/series-tournament/t20-world-cup-2014/top-stories/Revamped-World-Twenty20-searches-for-identity/articleshow/31985781.cms International T20 cricket, struggling to gain a firm footing despite the growing popularity of domestic leagues, will break new ground when the fifth World Twenty20 opens in Bangladesh on Sunday. Tests and one-dayers take precedence over T20 internationals even as successful competitions like the Indian Premier League (IPL) and Australia's Big Bash mushroom around the world. India, cricket's financial superpower, whose victory in the inaugural World T20 in 2007 sparked the IPL revolution, has played just one international in the shortest version over the last 15 months. World cricket chiefs, hoping to spread the game to newer pastures through Twenty20, have expanded the upcoming tournament to 16 teams from 12 two years ago and introduced a new format. Six qualifiers -- Ireland, Afghanistan, Nepal, Hong Kong, United Arab Emirates and the Netherlands -- will join Zimbabwe and hosts Bangladesh in a preliminary league of two groups from March 16 to 21. The two group winners will then contest the Super-10 round with the top eight Test nations -- Australia, Pakistan, South Africa, England, New Zealand, India, Sri Lanka and the West Indies. True to the unpredictable nature of the slam-bang format, the four previous editions threw up different winners each time with India's success in 2007 emulated by Pakistan (2009), England (2010) and the West Indies (2012) -- all away from home. Chris Gayle, one of the most destructive batsmen in the modern game, warned it will not be easy for his West Indies side to defend the title despite a series win over England this week. "It would be nice if history could repeat itself but it's going to be tough," the left-handed opener said. "We will take it one match at a time. The first target is to make the semifinals." Sri Lanka, the top-ranked T20 side, have enhanced their status as one of the favourites by spending more than six weeks in Bangladesh since late January, capped by their Asia Cup victory last weekend. But sandwiched between a hectic international schedule, the absence of a number of leading players and a lackadaisical build-up by teams, the tournament will lose some sheen. Australia, South Africa, England and the West Indies will arrive in Dhaka barely a week before the Super-10 round starts, leaving them little time to acclimatise. The tournament will be notable for its absences such as Australian Test skipper Michael Clarke and his English counterpart Alastair Cook. England's star batsman Kevin Pietersen will also be missing after his controversial sacking last month, along with New Zealand's big-hitting Jesse Ryder who was dropped for late-night drinking. South Africa meanwhile will be entering a new era after the recent retirements of Graeme Smith and Jacques Kallis. India can at least welcome back skipper Mahendra Singh Dhoni after he missed the Asia Cup through injury. Australia, seeking to win their maiden World T20 title, have debunked the theory that T20 is a young man's game by including middle-order batsman Brad Hodge, 39, and 43-year-old spinner Brad Hogg in their squad. The tournament, which runs until April 6, will be played under heavy security after election violence at the turn of the year raised fears that Bangladesh's biggest sporting event could be moved elsewhere. Bangladesh, which co-hosted the 2011 50-over World Cup with India and Sri Lanka, will stage matches in the capital Dhaka, Chittagong and Sylhet. But plans to host games in the holiday resort of Cox's Bazaar were ruled out after building work on a new stadium fell behind schedule. Organisers will be praying that Bangladesh defeat the dangerous Afghanistan in Sunday's tournament opener in Dhaka because an early exit for the hosts could seriously affect interest in the tournament. Afghanistan, who will play their third World T20 and have also qualified for a maiden appearance in the 50-over World Cup next year, stunned the hosts in the recent Asia Cup. No wonder Bangladesh's premier all-rounder Shakib Al Hasan urged fans to tone down expectations from the home team. "Everyone must take results sportingly," he said. "Too much expectation puts undue pressure on us."
rkt.india Posted March 14, 2014 Posted March 14, 2014 It has nothing to do with pace bowling. He is unable to rotate the strike and play with soft hands. That is an adjustment issue and not a struggle against pace. Getting bowled through the gate on straight deliveries, getting late by not moving front foot is certainly struggle against pace. He certainly improved a bit now on this aspect but it was there when I had said that he does not move his front foot enough.
Scarves Posted March 14, 2014 Posted March 14, 2014 The format is stupid. I did a piece on a preview I guess, so that was not fun but I assume not fun reading.
SLICKR392 Posted March 14, 2014 Posted March 14, 2014 Getting bowled through the gate on straight deliveries' date= getting late by not moving front foot is certainly struggle against pace. He certainly improved a bit now on this aspect but it was there when I had said that he does not move his front foot enough. How many times did this happen post the SA tour? He has improved immensely, not just a 'bit' and is still working hard.
rkt.india Posted March 14, 2014 Posted March 14, 2014 How many times did this happen post the SA tour? He has improved immensely' date=' not just a 'bit' and is still working hard.[/quote'] Did I talk about post SA tour? You talked about his debut match. I talked about the matcehs after his debut match.
SLICKR392 Posted March 14, 2014 Posted March 14, 2014 So matches will be played in morning? :hmmm: There will be 2 games per day. One around afternoon and the other in the evening. Best we chase. In the previous WT20, Watson and Warner owned us as there was a lot of dew.
putrevus Posted March 14, 2014 Posted March 14, 2014 His working hard and improvements have not yet shown up in odis and I doubt they will show up in T-20s either. nos 1,3, 4, 5 and 6 are taken on this t-20 team so it is between nohit and this guy for one slot.
BlueBee Posted March 14, 2014 Posted March 14, 2014 There will be 2 games per day. One around afternoon and the other in the evening. Best we chase. In the previous WT20' date=' Watson and Warner owned us as there was a lot of dew.[/quote'] :hmmm:
Switchblade Posted March 14, 2014 Posted March 14, 2014 There will be 2 games per day. One around afternoon and the other in the evening. Best we chase. In the previous WT20' date=' Watson and Warner owned us as there was a lot of dew.[/quote'] There was bit of rain due to which they smashed us plus we batted poorly
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Switchblade Posted March 14, 2014 Posted March 14, 2014 Commies: Raja,Akram,Ganguly,Bhogle,Sanjay,Jonty,Bish,Ravi,Wilko,Pom,Danny,Athar,Polly,Nasser,NickK,Murgatroyd and Rusty via. Twitter: Russel Arnold :banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:
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