b555 Posted August 1, 2012 Posted August 1, 2012 137 runs in nxt 2 matches and Virat Kohli will match the record for fastest 4000 runs in ODI which is held tilll now by
Pagalpanti Posted August 1, 2012 Posted August 1, 2012 He actually needs 137 runs and he needs to get in the next game to break the record.
Roshanrocks Posted August 1, 2012 Posted August 1, 2012 He actually needs 137 runs and he needs to get in the next game to break the record. thats very tough
b555 Posted August 1, 2012 Author Posted August 1, 2012 He actually needs 137 runs and he needs to get in the next game to break the record. u sure?
Sean Bradley Posted August 1, 2012 Posted August 1, 2012 possible considering we have another match against srilanka...:winky:
Roshanrocks Posted August 1, 2012 Posted August 1, 2012 statsguru gives preference to No of innings, VK -> 86 inns ; 3863 runs Richards got to 4000,, in 88 innings, so yes VK needs to score 137 in one innings to break the records and in 2 innings to equal the record To break Ganguly's fastest Indian to 4000 record though... he needs 18 innings, shud be beaten comfortably.
Ultimate_Game Posted August 1, 2012 Posted August 1, 2012 Viv had an advantage of playing plenty of 60 overs odis during that time whereas Kohli is doing it when the odis are 50 overs an innings.
putrevus Posted August 1, 2012 Posted August 1, 2012 Viv had an advantage of playing plenty of 60 overs odis during that time whereas Kohli is doing it when the odis are 50 overs an innings. common man, Kohli has power plays to compensate for loss of those ten overs. The mind set in those days and mindset these days are so different.T20 and all other changes which have totally changed the ODI batting. Kohli is good but he is no VIV Richards.Richards is best ever ODI batsman there is no competition.
panther Posted August 1, 2012 Posted August 1, 2012 power plays, better bats, smaller boundaries, rubbish bowlers mostly. viv in his own league.
Ultimate_Game Posted August 1, 2012 Posted August 1, 2012 common man, Kohli has power plays to compensate for loss of those ten overs. The mind set in those days and mindset these days are so different.T20 and all other changes which have totally changed the ODI batting. Kohli is good but he is no VIV Richards.Richards is best ever ODI batsman there is no competition. So would you say the same if tomorrow odis become 40 overs an innings and a future player somehow manages to score 800 in 10 innings then? Losing 10 overs over an innings is a huge difference and for a top order batsman it means 10 overs he can't bat when set. The fact has to be acknowledged when you look at this record, same way highest team totals in odis show an asterisk when the total was scored in 60 overs instead of 50.
jairamesh Posted August 1, 2012 Posted August 1, 2012 And the mindset of bowlers on those days? were they really one day bowling specialists. Did any of them even take ODIs seriously in those days? The counter argument works both ways. ODI today is much more competitive than even 10 years ago.
JaFanatic Posted August 1, 2012 Posted August 1, 2012 both are from different eras so there's no comparison at all
ravishingravi Posted August 1, 2012 Posted August 1, 2012 power plays, better bats, smaller boundaries, rubbish bowlers mostly. viv in his own league. This. Lets not get ahead of ourselves.
putrevus Posted August 1, 2012 Posted August 1, 2012 So would you say the same if tomorrow odis become 40 overs an innings and a future player somehow manages to score 800 in 10 innings then? Losing 10 overs over an innings is a huge difference and for a top order batsman it means 10 overs he can't bat when set. The fact has to be acknowledged when you look at this record' date=' same way highest team totals in odis show an asterisk when the total was scored in 60 overs instead of 50.[/quote'] i would say even if they become 30 overs too, Stats are okay to some extent in comparing different eras but they don't tell the full story. King Viv Richards was class by himself especially in odis. Kohli is nowhere near him.
Ultimate_Game Posted August 1, 2012 Posted August 1, 2012 i would say even if they become 30 overs too, Stats are okay to some extent in comparing different eras but they don't tell the full story. King Viv Richards was class by himself especially in odis. Kohli is nowhere near him. How can you definitively say that? When Kohli has managed to do something which nobody could since 50 overs an innings odis became the norm, he becomes extremely special player, and when you make statements like "Kohli nowhere near him" it's not much of an argument. Somebody with 13 100s and averaging 52+ in odis is in an elite bracket at the very top tier and don't think any player, past or present, is heads & shoulders above Kohli to merit "nowhere near him" comment.
ravishingravi Posted August 1, 2012 Posted August 1, 2012 How can you definitively say that? When Kohli has managed to do something which nobody could since 50 overs an innings odis became the norm' date=' he becomes extremely special player, and when you make statements like "[i']Kohli nowhere near him" it's not much of an argument. Somebody with 13 100s and averaging 52+ in odis is in an elite bracket at the very top tier and don't think any player, past or present, is heads & shoulders above Kohli to merit "nowhere near him" comment. Because he isn't. Not yet. But he is showing huge potential and could be in some years. But one would like to see more of him abroad and against tougher bowlers. Banging SL in sub continent is great to some extent. And he has done well abroad in limited opportunities. But lets not jump the gun here.
Ultimate_Game Posted August 1, 2012 Posted August 1, 2012 Because he isn't. Not yet. But he is showing huge potential and could be in some years. But one would like to see more of him abroad and against tougher bowlers. Banging SL in sub continent is great to some extent. And he has done well abroad in limited opportunities. But lets not jump the gun here. I am not jumping the gun, nor am I saying Kohli is the best there ever was. But I do find statements like "Kohli is nowhere near XYZ" a bit OTT.
JaFanatic Posted August 1, 2012 Posted August 1, 2012 ppl always cherish the one which they've never seen
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