Asia Cup 2014

[skindia]

Uthappa builds inning also and can attack,he has shown in ipl and domestics,raina scores 20-30 quick only

[rkt.india]

Uthappa at 6 is far better option that Rayudu's and Dinesh Karthik's. :protest:

[Number]

BK is not bowling to take wickets but to contain that is why he has a good ER. Shami bowls to take wickets aggressively but has been expensive.

You think he changed his approach in the last 4-5 months ?

[Sean Bradley]

Varun Aaron if groomed well, and used well by the captain, has all the potential to be a potent strike bowler, or the go to bowler as OP puts it here.

[rkt.india]

You think he changed his approach in the last 4-5 months ?

Look at yesterday as an example. He was troubling Kusal from over the wicket moving the ball away and into him, but suddenly, as soon as Thirimanne hit a boundary through off side, he started bowling from round the wicket and quite wide outside off and Thirimanne kept leaving them. He could have gotten a wicket or two from over the wicket as ball moved a bit in the air.

[Switchblade]

Trevor Penny is the fielding coach though last year we were brilliant in the field I feel that our fielders are complacent now

[vamos_rafa]

Has the arrogance and confidence to cope Will make him bat better

Didn't know you need arrogance to cope with pressure...

[SLICKR392]

^ + Our ground fielding's has been as good as it was but nothing can be done when players drop club level dollies.

[Straight Drive]

ab pata chala?

:haha: Seriously, it's been our problem since decades.

[kubrickian]

We generally do well when spinners take wickets. Even yesterday, Jadeja and Ashwin picked wickets and hence we got back into the match. It was the same thing in Champions Trophy, WI tri series or series at home. That's why we dont do well in conditions which dont help spinners because seamers are not consistent or good enough. Case in point, SA ODI series or NZ ODI series. We dont have a pool of seamers to rotate, hence the ones we play get burned out quickly. If we had a bigger pool, we could also play specialists for ODIs and tests to avoid injuries and keep them fresh. Honestly, seamers wont make a big difference in these conditions anyway and its not fair to expect much from them but when we play World Cup, we need them to deliver and have to play 4 seamers (3 seamers + 1 all rounder) and that's a department where we are lacking.

[Straight Drive]

We generally do well when spinners take wickets. Even yesterday, Jadeja and Ashwin picked wickets and hence we got back into the match. It was the same thing in Champions Trophy, WI tri series or series at home. That's why we dont do well in conditions which dont help spinners because seamers are not consistent or good enough. Case in point, SA ODI series or NZ ODI series. We dont have a pool of seamers to rotate, hence the ones we play get burned out quickly. If we had a bigger pool, we could also play specialists for ODIs and tests to avoid injuries and keep them fresh. Honestly, seamers wont make a big difference in these conditions anyway and its not fair to expect much from them but when we play World Cup, we need them to deliver and have to play 4 seamers (3 seamers + 1 all rounder) and that's a department where we are lacking.

Good post :two_thumbs_up:

[Marut]

Not a lot of teams have a go to bowler. Collective bowling effort is the key to success. Instead of expecting one bowler to pick up 5 wickets, expect five of your bowlers to bowl out the opposition. Given his experience, Ishant should have been the go to bowler by now, but he is still a "go away" bowler. Rest of the team is very young, and assuming everything goes right from here, it will take at least 2 years for a go to bowler to emerge.

[rkt.india]

We generally do well when spinners take wickets. Even yesterday, Jadeja and Ashwin picked wickets and hence we got back into the match. It was the same thing in Champions Trophy, WI tri series or series at home. That's why we dont do well in conditions which dont help spinners because seamers are not consistent or good enough. Case in point, SA ODI series or NZ ODI series. We dont have a pool of seamers to rotate, hence the ones we play get burned out quickly. If we had a bigger pool, we could also play specialists for ODIs and tests to avoid injuries and keep them fresh. Honestly, seamers wont make a big difference in these conditions anyway and its not fair to expect much from them but when we play World Cup, we need them to deliver and have to play 4 seamers (3 seamers + 1 all rounder) and that's a department where we are lacking.

Actually, in CT, spinners alone did not won us games. Fast bowlers always gave initial breakthroughs in most matches which spinners capitalized on because conditions suited them and even in NZ, we got 1-2 early break through in every match in first 10-12 overs of pace, which spinners could not capitalize because conditions were not suiting them.

[rainy day]

Shami is a pretty good 'go to bowler', picks wickets whenever he comes to bowl usually.

[India-KXIP fan]

^Agree :--D But isn't there anyone else? I remember Menaria striking it well in one of the home A games.

[G_B_]

it must have been the dew....

[kubrickian]

Actually' date=' in CT, spinners alone did not won us games. Fast bowlers always gave initial breakthroughs in most matches which spinners capitalized on because conditions suited them and even in NZ, we got 1-2 early break through in every match in first 10-12 overs of pace, which spinners could not capitalize because conditions were not suiting them.[/quote'] Seamers did well in CT but its the spinners who bowl for us in the middle overs and if they dont do well, we will struggle to choke the runs and allow partnerships to build. We dont play a fourth seamer. Hence, spinners become crucial and in conditions which have nothing for spinners, bowling attack usually struggles like what happened in NZ. Its better to gamble and go with 4 regular seamers and 1 spinner in overseas conditions than playing 2 spinners. But we should also ask the question. Do we have 4 good seamers for ODIs ?

[BlueBee]

^++

[G_B_]

I saw the highlights and to be fair i had a lot of admiration for Ash and Sir yesterday. It was terrible out there with the ball. They had to wipe it off after every ball. Especially one played along the ground.

[G_B_]

play Raina in the subcontinent. dont play him outside the sub. How hard is that to understand?