FischerTal Posted April 5, 2014 Posted April 5, 2014 Who's the better batsman across all three formats?
vvvslaxman Posted April 5, 2014 Posted April 5, 2014 ABDV. Great batsman against any bowling, in any country. Kohli just needs to build stats to get to his level. He is capable of building it. ABDV is a freak.
Old guy Posted April 5, 2014 Posted April 5, 2014 One has played close to 100 tests and other is starting up...how is it fair comparison ?
carnish Posted April 5, 2014 Posted April 5, 2014 ABDV ... Has done it in all conditions against all kind of Bowlers. Virat has a long way to go to match up.
Temujin Khaghan Posted April 5, 2014 Posted April 5, 2014 There is so much to achieve in test cricket still...
Marut Posted April 5, 2014 Posted April 5, 2014 Kohli has played only 24 tests. Why would you even compare him with a legend like ABDV?
SLICKR392 Posted April 5, 2014 Posted April 5, 2014 The poll should be based on their performance in LOIs. Its absolutely no contest in Test.
tatters Posted April 5, 2014 Posted April 5, 2014 Some people here really have a problem separating career records from current ability and performances. Not surprising given the hero worship of Tendulkar and meaningless numbers. Nobody should be saying that Kohli has a better overall record than De Villiers, but that doesn't mean he's not just as good right now. But if we're looking at current comparisons, India recently went to SA in tests and Kohli averaged 66 - higher than De Villiers. On Kohli's last four away Test tours he averages over 50 accounting for matches played in tours in England, Australia, South Africa and New Zealand. So this idea that he's not competitive in different test conditions is ridiculous. I'd back Kohli to make up the difference in career test average with De Villiers within the next year or so anyway. The format doesn't really matter to Kohli. He raises his game in difficult conditions and it's sad that people doubt that Kohli is currently competitive with the other very best batsmen in the world. There is hardly any difference and recent records show that, and future records will make doubters look very silly.
Marut Posted April 5, 2014 Posted April 5, 2014 Some people here really have a problem separating career records from current ability and performances. Not surprising given the hero worship of Tendulkar and meaningless numbers. Nobody should be saying that Kohli has a better overall record than De Villiers, but that doesn't mean he's not just as good right now. But if we're looking at current comparisons, India recently went to SA in tests and Kohli averaged 66 - higher than De Villiers. On Kohli's last four away Test tours he averages over 50 accounting for matches played in tours in England, Australia, South Africa and New Zealand. So this idea that he's not competitive in different test conditions is ridiculous. I'd back Kohli to make up the difference in career test average with De Villiers within the next year or so anyway. The format doesn't really matter to Kohli. He raises his game in difficult conditions and it's sad that people doubt that Kohli is currently competitive with the other very best batsmen in the world. There is hardly any difference and recent records show that, and future records will make doubters look very silly. Quite a few players have had a dream run for an year or two in tests. That is why we look at the bigger picture when comparing players. Mike Hussey had an average of 80+ for his first two years, but he turned out be a much lesser mortal over the longer term. At this stage Kohli has not done enough to merit comparison with AB.
tatters Posted April 5, 2014 Posted April 5, 2014 Quite a few players have had a dream run for an year or two in tests. That is why we look at the bigger picture when comparing players. Mike Hussey had an average of 80+ for his first two years' date=' but he turned out be a much lesser mortal over the longer term. At this stage Kohli has not done enough to merit comparison with AB.[/quote'] It depends on what you call a small sample size but I don't classify 2-3 years including 4 away tours as a small sample size. If we're going to bring in career records all the time then we might as well only compare those that have played over 90 tests. Besides the improvement and resilience in Kohli's game under different conditions has been quite obvious. There is very, very little to suggest that things are going to tail off for Kohli here.
tatters Posted April 5, 2014 Posted April 5, 2014 And on that mike hussey point, if he had an 80+ test average for over 2 years and he was also performing superbly in ODIs, I have no problem saying he was among the best for that period of time. Similar with Cook and Trott. Things change but all we're talking about is right now. I wouldn't particularly feel more confident with De Villiers going out to bat in my team over Kohli no matter where a game was played tomorrow. It's obviously a close run thing.
Sachin=GOD Posted April 5, 2014 Posted April 5, 2014 One has played close to 100 tests and other is starting up...how is it fair comparison ? this.
akshayxyz Posted April 5, 2014 Posted April 5, 2014 Based on cold stats. Kohli marginally ahead in ODIs, well ahead in T20Is, and sample size too small in Tests (just 24 vs 93)
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