G_B_ Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Why can't the Secular parties join and make the Govt? that congress would be more than happy to. Somebody like Azad is itching for the same. The congress has two rajya sabha seats to protect. However the NC Congress and PDP are all chasing the same vote. If they allign one of the three will be permanently eliminated as a force in the state. Realistically one of the NC and PDP will be cannibalised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jalebi_bhai Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Why can't the PDP and BJP come together? Both parties will be able to benefit from the alliance. They may need to make ideological compromises, but both parties have much to gain. BJP needs all the unconditional support in the RS that it can get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diga Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Why can't the PDP and BJP come together? . Apparently the separatists are opposed to the alliance... no one knows if it will lead to violence in the valley if they come together Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jalebi_bhai Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Apparently the separatists are opposed to the alliance... no one knows if it will lead to violence in the valley if they come together So there is a coercive-threat factor? Ok. That complicates matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asterix Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Apparently the separatists are opposed to the alliance... no one knows if it will lead to violence in the valley if they come together The BJP too is bullish in the negotiations about the CM candidate etc. Should've had a bit flexible approach given the history of the state... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_B_ Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 there are too many ideological differences between the pdp and the bjp The thing is from the BJP pov Kashmir is like the icing on the cake. Its not the cake. The cake will probably come when/if states like UP Bihar Assam Karnataka are in the bag. Kashmir remains a small state. Delhi is a much bigger prize to be had. They make concessions to the PDP on say the special armed forces act etc. It will hurt their image in the delhi elections and their brand of nationalism will be heavily diluted India wide. Maybe its best if BJP drop the joint CM thing and in return bargain for a discussion on article 370 (a discussion mind you) and keep the armed forces act. In return they get the home ministry and slightly more portfolios in the state cabinet. However i dont think the PDP wants to compromise anywhere. They dont want to have any discussion on 370 and they want the Special forces act gone and they also want to have 6 years CM chair. In return they are willing to give equal portfolios deputy CM revenue and home to the bjp. This kind of caving in on issues (not posts mind you) will hurt the BJP brand of politics nationally. Especially when they are going well in all the states. It will demoralise their own cadre. I personally think its time to split the state into three. Jammu Kahsmir and Ladakh. PDP (kashmir) and Congress (ladakh) will naturally be in favour. But if that cant happen then IMO the BJP is best sitting this one out. Dont hurt your image nationally for the sake of a small state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texan Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Also what this stat probably does not show is that Milind Deoras death means BJP will pocket a rajya sabha seat in maha. Why are you killing that poor soul? :(( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texan Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 I personally think its time to split the state into three. Jammu Kahsmir and Ladakh. PDP (kashmir) and Congress (ladakh) will naturally be in favour. But if that cant happen then IMO the BJP is best sitting this one out. Dont hurt your image nationally for the sake of a small state. There are bigger political reasons why the state will not be split. I agree that for the sake of economic development it makes better sense to split the state into two not three. Ladakh has very sparse population and as such could not be administered as a separate state (perhaps a Union Territory). Rather, Jammu and Ladakh should comprise one state and Kashmir valley another. Given the diametrically opposite voting pattern, it would benefit both regions economically if the state were to be divided. However, that is unlikely to happen. Mainly because if Kashmir becomes an independent state, then with a 97% Muslim population, Pakistan's claim to the region will get enhanced. Hence, political parties in India have never been inclined to dividing J&K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_B_ Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 There are bigger political reasons why the state will not be split. I agree that for the sake of economic development it makes better sense to split the state into two not three. Ladakh has very sparse population and as such could not be administered as a separate state (perhaps a Union Territory). Rather, Jammu and Ladakh should comprise one state and Kashmir valley another. Given the diametrically opposite voting pattern, it would benefit both regions economically if the state were to be divided. However, that is unlikely to happen. Mainly because if Kashmir becomes an independent state, then with a 97% Muslim population, Pakistan's claim to the region will get enhanced. Hence, political parties in India have never been inclined to dividing J&K. i know that but there comes a time whereby development of Jammu is scuttled and its not fair to those people its not as if terrorists are going to stop their activities just cause jammu is part of the state. I dont think POK is even officially part of pakistan's constitution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_B_ Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Delhi elections 2015: BJP projected to win 34-40 seats, AAP 25-31 seats, says India Today-Cicero opinion poll From December 2014 to January 2015, Wave II of the RCS Poll Tracker 2015 sees a swing in favour of both the BJP and the AAP and a swing against the Congress. The January survey shows that the BJP is projected to get 40 per cent vote share (up from 39 per cent in December last year). The AAP is projected to secure 36 per cent vote share (no change from last month). The total sample of survey, conducted in all 70 constituencies and 210 polling stations, was 4,459. In Wave I of the survey in December 2014, the sample size was 4,273. Read more at: http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/bjp-win-india-today-cicero-poll-delhi-assembly-seats-poll-tracker-2015-aap-arvind-kejriwal-sheila-dikshit/1/412923.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_B_ Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 a bit too close for comfort this... BJP need to shift gears. Nearly a month to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_B_ Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 BJP to contest Delhi election under 'collective leadership' New Delhi: Hours after the announcement of Delhi Assembly elections schedule, Bhartiya Janata Party top brass on Monday discussed the strategies for the February 7 polls and sought suggestions from leaders on ways to maximise the party's electoral performance. BJP national president Amit Shah held a meeting with top party leaders from Delhi to evolve the party's strategies for the polls. The meeting continued till late at night. The leaders discussed probable candidates and held deliberations on fielding all its sitting MLAs. Shah also told the party men to focus on polling booths and reach out to voters. The leaders, BJP sources said, have been asked to identify booth level workers as well as candidates in each of the constituencies. BJP will hold a meeting of its Central Election Committee within the next two to three days and finalise some of the candidates. The filing of nominations starts on Wednesday. The party expressed confidence that its victory march would continue in the national capital and it would form the next government in Delhi which can move in tandem with the Centre to ensure all-round development. Buoyed by BJP's victory in the Delhi Cantonment Board elections on Monday, where it won five of the eight seats, party leaders said it reflects the mood of the people in the city. "It is clear and we hope that Delhi's mood has come out through the Delhi Cantt. results. We hope to get a good and best majority in Delhi," Delhi in-charge Prabhat Jha said. BJP national secretary Shrikant Sharma said, "We welcome the poll announcement. We are confident of a government with majority as such a government is necessary in Delhi that can move in tandem with the Centre and ensure good governance and all-round development of Delhi." Sharma said the party wants to see a government that can provide good governance and is corruption-free to ensure that Delhi becomes one of the best cities across the world. "...The results of Delhi Cantonment are certainly very encouraging for us and Delhi is not untouched by the wave across the country and there will be good results in favour of the BJP," Delhi BJP chief Satish Upadhyay said. BJP spokesperson and New Delhi MP Meenakshi Lekhi said the way 36 per cent voters voted for BJP in the last Lok Sabha elections, it is clear that BJP is going to come out with a major victory in Delhi. Asked whether BJP will declare its chief ministerial candidate, Upadhyay said the party will contest these polls under "collective leadership". In last Assembly polls in Delhi in 2013 December, BJP had bagged 31 seats in addition to one by its ally SAD, falling short of a simple majority in the 70-member House. AAP had won in 28 seats, followed by eight of Congress. http://ibnlive.in.com/news/bjp-to-contest-delhi-election-under-collective-leadership/522639-37.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_B_ Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Sources said the election will be a major test for four main political parties in the Legislative Assembly and seven Independents and others as no political party has formed an alliance so far to form the Government. Presently, PDP is single largest party with 28 MLAs followed by BJP with 25, NC 15, Congress 12, People’s Conference 2, CPM 1 and rest are Independents including Pawan Gupta, Engineer Rashid, Hakim Yasin and Bakir Hussain Rizvi. If the PDP and BJP join hands, they can safely win three seats. The NC and Congress combine can win one seat but going by the serious differences between the two parties, it is unlikely that they will join hands for Rajya Sabha elections. If NC and Congress put up separate candidates, they might end up without winning a single Rajya Sabha seat. Sources said the Rajya Sabha elections could become testing ground for PDP-BJP alliance especially when the BJP was trying to gain majority in the Upper House of Parliament along with its allies. The PDP-BJP combine with some Independents could even get all four Rajya Sabha seats like NC-Congress coalition had done in 2009 when they had only 45 members in the Assembly (NC 28 and Congress 17). However, PDP-BJP combine would have 53 members in the Assembly and BJP even had the backing of two members of Sajjad Lone’s People’s Conference and could muster support of some more Independent candidates. However, sources said, the things would be clear only when the PDP and BJP talks progressed. They pointed out that even if NC and Congress join hands if PDP and BJP cobble up alliance the NC would like its candidate for the Rajya Sabha seat as the party has 15 MLAs as against 12 of Congress. If all parties go it alone, the PDP could win two seats and BJP one while the fourth seat could go to any party. http://www.dailyexcelsior.com/ec-announces-elections-4-rs-seats-jk-feb-7/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diga Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 BJP to contest Delhi election under 'collective leadership' http://ibnlive.in.com/news/bjp-to-contest-delhi-election-under-collective-leadership/522639-37.html no cm candidate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_B_ Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 by the looks of it.... BJP is such a faction ridden party at state level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 a bit too close for comfort this... BJP need to shift gears. Nearly a month to go. There is nothing a few Modi rallies can't fix! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Arvinder Singh Lovely was probable Cong CM candidate. He has joined BJP today from what I heard. Edit :: He is different, there are 2 Arvinder Singh Lovely in Congress. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_B_ Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 ^ lovely.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_B_ Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 There is nothing a few Modi rallies can't fix! thats the point though the BJP is a one person party at the moment. You need to take a plunge and establish regional sartaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diga Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Shazia Ilmi , formerly an AAP member may campaign for BJP in delhi elections... communal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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