AmreekanDesi Posted June 16, 2014 Posted June 16, 2014 Disregarding his whinging personality, where do you think he stands as a great batsman of the last 20 years. I feel he has overtaken Lara and stands only behind Ponting and Sachin.
SLICKR392 Posted June 16, 2014 Posted June 16, 2014 OVERTAKEN LARA!!! When did you starting following this game?
Sachin=GOD Posted June 16, 2014 Posted June 16, 2014 I would put him alongside Hayden, Younis Khan etc.
Austin 3:!6 Posted June 16, 2014 Posted June 16, 2014 I would put him alongside Hayden' date=' Younis Khan etc.[/quote'] What? No...he is on the same league as Dravid, Kallis. Definitely an ATG which Haydos, YK isn't. A top player but with a horrible sporting spirit and a big time whiner.
AmreekanDesi Posted June 16, 2014 Author Posted June 16, 2014 OVERTAKEN LARA!!! When did you starting following this game? 2003-04
putrevus Posted June 16, 2014 Posted June 16, 2014 He averages over fricking 70 as a batsman alone with 29 hundreds and over 8200, and averages over 48 in every country with at least one hundred except WI where he played just 3 tests. He is batting like next Don Bradman in test making batting ridiculously easy. Those pointing his record against bangladesh should also look at other players who made merry when teams were weak and when they got better they stopped showing up.
Sachin=GOD Posted June 16, 2014 Posted June 16, 2014 He averages over fricking 70 as a batsman alone with 29 hundreds and over 8200' date=' [b']and averages over 48 in every country with at least one hundred except WI where he played just 3 tests. He is batting like next Don Bradman in test making batting ridiculously easy. Those pointing his record against bangladesh should also look at other players who made merry when teams were weak and when they got better they stopped showing up. Avg in Eng - 38. In India - 36. In SA - 35. In WI - 34.
Sachin=GOD Posted June 16, 2014 Posted June 16, 2014 What? No...he is on the same league as Dravid' date= Kallis. Definitely an ATG which Haydos, YK isn't. A top player but with a horrible sporting spirit and a big time whiner. IMO he neither as good as Dravid/Kallis nor an ATG.
maniac Posted June 16, 2014 Posted June 16, 2014 IMO he neither as good as Dravid/Kallis nor an ATG. Disagree....He is an ATG....Well is he as good as Kallis/R.D debatable but his accomplishments can't be ignored
putrevus Posted June 16, 2014 Posted June 16, 2014 Avg in Eng - 38. In India - 36. In SA - 35. In WI - 34. those averages are his combined when he was keeper also ,as batsman alone check his averages. No one since bradman has even approached his numbers.
Malcolm Merlyn Posted June 17, 2014 Posted June 17, 2014 those averages are his combined when he was keeper also ,as batsman alone check his averages. No one since bradman has even approached his numbers. 1800 runs againist Bangladesh helped.He has played Bangladesh and bashed them almost every year since last 3-4 years.
putrevus Posted June 17, 2014 Posted June 17, 2014 1800 runs againist Bangladesh helped.He has played Bangladesh and bashed them almost every year since last 3-4 years. Didn't other greats cash in against weak bowling attacks, it would not have mattered what bowling it was this guy is just too good . He might not be having average like in 70s but he might have been averaging in 60s. Scoring 29 hundreds in 70 tests with over 8200 runs purely as batsman is nothing but brilliant.unlike other overrated players from bigger teams this guy had least amount of chances to showcase his talent overseas as his team hardly played in longer series. We will never know how great he could have been had he just been a batsman thru out his career.
Temujin Khaghan Posted June 17, 2014 Posted June 17, 2014 since 1990 tier - 1: sachin, lara tier - 2: dravid, kallis the batsman and ponting tier 2.5 : sangakarra, steve waugh, pietersen, sehwag tier - 3: mahela, greame smith, chanderpaul, inzamam, vvs, yusuf etc... how he ends his career will determine if he will enter tier-2 or not. tier-1 is out of question as of now. pietersen missed it by a whisker due to idiotic ecb. sachin and lara are the greatest batsmen since 1990. right now the batsman who have a good chance to end in tier-1 are cook amla abdv good chance for tier - 2 clarke for 2.5 bell --- pujara and kohli are yet to blossom as test batsman. too early to say which tier.
Cricket_Hacker Posted June 17, 2014 Posted June 17, 2014 since 1990 tier - 1: sachin, lara tier - 2: dravid, kallis the batsman and ponting tier 2.5 : sangakarra, steve waugh tier - 3: chanderpaul, inzamam, vvs etc... :agree:
SLICKR392 Posted June 17, 2014 Posted June 17, 2014 Didn't other greats cash in against weak bowling attacks, it would not have mattered what bowling it was this guy is just too good . He might not be having average like in 70s but he might have been averaging in 60s. Scoring 29 hundreds in 70 tests with over 8200 runs purely as batsman is nothing but brilliant.unlike other overrated players from bigger teams this guy had least amount of chances to showcase his talent overseas as his team hardly played in longer series. We will never know how great he could have been had he just been a batsman thru out his career. For crying out loud, for once cut out the crap that this guy hadn't had enough chances to bat overseas. For a guy averaging almost 60, his record overseas is laughable and does no justice whatsoever to his mammoth average along with those bulk of centuries. Out of 36, how many of them have been scored away from the SC- 6, 7? Just NOT good enough, no matter what stats or numbers you put on the table. He's the best batsman IN the subcontinent. Period.
Cricket_Hacker Posted June 17, 2014 Posted June 17, 2014 For crying out loud, for once cut out the crap that this guy hadn't had enough chances to bat overseas. For a guy averaging almost 60, his record overseas is laughable and does no justice whatsoever to his mammoth average along with those bulk of centuries. Out of 36, how many of them have been scored away from the SC- 6, 7? Just NOT good enough, no matter what stats or numbers you put on the table. He's the best batsman IN the subcontinent. Period. i think Sehwag gives him tough competition in SC
SLICKR392 Posted June 17, 2014 Posted June 17, 2014 And really, what exactly does make him better than Dravid? Or on par with him? Dravid was far, far, far superior to this guy in conditions overseas and WON us matches there, not just some mere draws.
putrevus Posted June 17, 2014 Posted June 17, 2014 For crying out loud, for once cut out the crap that this guy hadn't had enough chances to bat overseas. For a guy averaging almost 60, his record overseas is laughable and does no justice whatsoever to his mammoth average along with those bulk of centuries. Out of 36, how many of them have been scored away from the SC- 6, 7? Just NOT good enough, no matter what stats or numbers you put on the table. He's the best batsman IN the subcontinent. Period. Take out the fact that this guy is from SL and do the analysis of his stats rationally as a batsman alone. How many long series has he had chance to play overseas. Why are you combining his record as a keeper and batsman, keeping and scoring runs at no3 is just next to impossible.
mancalledsting Posted June 17, 2014 Posted June 17, 2014 At a batsmen alone- I don't see why Kallis is rated above Sangakarra.
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