Speeds and Performances of Pacers and Spinners

[CG]

4 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

 

This issue warrants a new thread. I will open one shortly.

 

Our biggest problem was that our pacers did not try to use bounce as a weapon, especially against the top 6 batsmen.

 

Big mistake. !   Frankly speaking, I thought Bumrah was a better reader of the game conditions than he displayed in this series. 

 

We need a couple of bounce bowlers in our pool. Like Prasidh, Tyagi and Avesh.

In low scoring games with help from pitch bouncers are generally not preferred.There was always help we bowled well somehow pitches did not become too up down like previous tours

[express bowling]

29 minutes ago, CG said:

In low scoring games with help from pitch bouncers are generally not preferred.There was always help we bowled well somehow pitches did not become too up down like previous tours

 

Not talking about just bouncers ... but the bowling style of hitting the deck hard for length and back of a length balls. Get some of those balls to bounce more or rear up nastily along with seam movement.

 

Most of South Africa's wickets were due to extra bounce they generated.

Edited January 14, 2022 by express bowling

[express bowling]

1.6 Cummins to Rory Burns, no run, 133.7kph, late tail back in, but Burns trusts the angle to take it away, and leaves

1.5 Cummins to Rory Burns, 2 runs, 134kph, just outside off, good length, angling away. Burns brings his bat down at an angle, and outside-edges it past point

1.4 Cummins to Rory Burns, no run, length, on middle, defended back down the pitch

1.3 Cummins to Rory Burns, no run, a little bit of in-seam, off a middle-stump line to go past Burns's defence and smash him in the midriff

1.2 Cummins to Rory Burns, no run, 132.7kph, nice zip across, off a good length, and a well-judged leave

1.1 Cummins to Rory Burns, no run, 133kph, going across, on a good length, a forward pressy leave

 

 

 

Cummins is bowling slower than earlier years

Edited January 16, 2022 by express bowling

[express bowling]

Starc bowling quick

 

 

2.6 Starc to Rory Burns, no run, 138.4kph, outswinger, full on middle, shuffling flick to leg

2.5Starc to Rory Burns, no run, 144.7kph, misses a flick, with the ball swinging away, past the outside-edge to hit him high on the front pad. There was hardly an appeal, and tell you what, ball-tracking shows three reds

2.4 Starc to Crawley, 1 run, 143.8kph, back of a length, on middle and leg, tucked away to fine leg

2.3 Starc to Crawley, no run, 148.7kph, full, safely outside off, and Crawley sticks his front leg out and watches it through

Three slips. Gully.

2.2 Starc to Crawley, no run, 142.2kph, full, outside off. Left alone

2.1 Starc to Crawley, no run, loud LBW appeal -- full, swinging in from over the wicket, and Crawley defends down the wrong line to get pinned in front of middle. Oh, there's an inside-edge

[Suhaan]

On 1/14/2022 at 7:07 PM, express bowling said:

 

Not talking about just bouncers ... but the bowling style of hitting the deck hard for length and back of a length balls. Get some of those balls to bounce more or rear up nastily along with seam movement.

 

Most of South Africa's wickets were due to extra bounce they generated.

Their mantra as always against SC sides, pakistan was tormented back in 18/19 by Olivier then

[express bowling]

Hangargekar could be our ideal No.8

 

Specislist wicket taking pacer ... Tall, well built, quick ... but can bat too and hit big.

[Forward Defence]

2 minutes ago, express bowling said:

Hangargekar could be our ideal No.8

 

Specislist wicket taking pacer ... Tall, well built, quick ... but can bat too and hit big.

Has a very measured run up. Generates speed from his gather before delivery. Built like a tank though.

[Suhaan]

12 minutes ago, express bowling said:

Hangargekar could be our ideal No.8

 

Specislist wicket taking pacer ... Tall, well built, quick ... but can bat too and hit big.

His height? at max looks 6, nevertheless a bright prospect

[rkt.india]

23 minutes ago, Suhaan said:

His height? at max looks 6, nevertheless a bright prospect

He maybe 6 but seems to have strong shoulders. His fuller deliveries were going at chest height to wk.

[express bowling]

45 minutes ago, Suhaan said:

His height? at max looks 6, nevertheless a bright prospect

 

These days, even a pacer who is 6'0" or 6'1" looks decent height for an Indian pacer.   :  )

 

And Hangargekar gets really good carry with his fuller deliveries. 

[rkt.india]

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[Suhaan]

8 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

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Khaleel Starc

[rkt.india]

19 minutes ago, Suhaan said:

Khaleel Starc

Khaleel is much better than the likes of sakariya and Arzan and should get more chances in LOIs for now.

[Suhaan]

46 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

Khaleel is much better than the likes of sakariya and Arzan and should get more chances in LOIs for now.

I wasn't taunting,just meant his action here

[Vijy]

11 hours ago, express bowling said:

 

These days, even a pacer who is 6'0" or 6'1" looks decent height for an Indian pacer.   :  )

 

And Hangargekar gets really good carry with his fuller deliveries. 

with so many shorties around, yes even 6 or 6+ would be good

[express bowling]

11 hours ago, Suhaan said:

Khaleel Starc

 

11 hours ago, rkt.india said:

Khaleel is much better than the likes of sakariya and Arzan and should get more chances in LOIs for now.

 

 

Khaleel Ahmed has really good potential.

 

Tall, bouncy, gets good zip off the deck and can move the ball nowadays too.

 

He looks really good when he bowls 135 k to 142 k or higher.

[express bowling]

Bouncy and quick upcoming pacers ----

 

Prasidh

Tyagi

Avesh

Khaleel

Hangargekar

 

 

Skiddy and quick upcoming pacers ----

 

Umran

Nagarkoti

Mavi

 

 

We need to combine these 2 types in our bowling pool to create the best possible effect.

Edited January 17, 2022 by express bowling

[Vijy]

22 minutes ago, express bowling said:

Bouncy and quick upcoming pacers ----

 

Prasidh

Tyagi

Avesh

Khaleel

 

 

Skiddy and quick upcoming pacers ----

 

Umran

Nagarkoti

Mavi

 

 

We need to combine these 2 types in our bowling pool to create the best possible effect.

I would also like to see an Ambrose/Croft/Garner type of bowler if possible, but those types are super rare. Someone who is 6'6 or above and can extract steep bounce from a length allied to solid pace (135 kph at min).

[express bowling]

23 minutes ago, Vijy said:

I would also like to see an Ambrose/Croft/Garner type of bowler if possible, but those types are super rare. Someone who is 6'6 or above and can extract steep bounce from a length allied to solid pace (135 kph at min).

 

It would be nice if we find such a pacer. But do we have anyone in India now !

 

Prince Badiani of Mumbai is 6'6" and gets steep bounce.

Edited January 17, 2022 by express bowling

[rkt.india]

10 minutes ago, Vijy said:

I would also like to see an Ambrose/Croft/Garner type of bowler if possible, but those types are super rare. Someone who is 6'6 or above and can extract steep bounce from a length allied to solid pace (135 kph at min).

Rahul Nain from Delhi, Prince Badiani, Divyanshu Singh from Mumbai, Dhanush Gowda from Karnataka,  Divij Mehra from Delhi are all 6'5" plus prospects