Speeds and Performances of Pacers and Spinners

[MK55]

2 minutes ago, express bowling said:

Umran gets to bowl just 1 over. Yes, he was expensive in that over but so were our other so called pacers. 

 

Comes to bat after Arshdeep despite being a big hitter on his good days. 

 

 

 

 

This guy Hardik has the tendency to do that. I remember that idiot even dropping Lockie from the side for a couple of expensive overs. 

Also why is that clown opening the bowling attack? I mean it’s fine once in a while but every f match?? This team management continues to be extremely rigid with the bowling plans.

 

Absolute morons. The bowlers had no idea what length they should bowl on this pitch. Conway looked very comfortable against Umran even in the last match. Still there were no plans in place. They couldn’t even figure out whether to bowl round the wicket or over the wicket. FFS hire some international bowling coach. 
 

 

[Lone Wolf]

2 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

Indian commentators are taunting his extra pace every time he comes to bowl these days. Sort of reflects the mindset in the Indian dressing room too. 

 

While you won't hear much when Arshdeep type pacers get hit. 

 

I am getting a feeling that Umran's talent will be wasted in Team India due to poor guidance and lack of backing. 

 

Noticed that too... Everytime he comes to bowl they say batters will use his pace. 

Only went after Arshdeep in the final over after no ball.  

I think they lack a genuine fast bowling coach in their think tank. 

Umran is very unlucky to have missed out on Arun. 

Bumrah or Siraj would have been discarded as well if they played under Mhambrey'. 

How they benched a red hot Siraj in T20 WC over seniors is proof of that. 

[MK55]

1 minute ago, Lone Wolf said:

Noticed that too... Everytime he comes to bowl they say batters will use his pace. 

Only went after Arshdeep in the final over after no ball.  

I think they lack a genuine fast bowling coach in their think tank. 

Umran is very unlucky to have missed out on Arun. 

Bumrah or Siraj would have been discarded as well if they played under Mhambrey'. 

How they benched a red hot Siraj in T20 WC over seniors is proof of that. 

I’m f sick of this toxic Indian mindset. It’s pervasive and rooted deep. Not just the coach, but commentators, selectors and even the general public (majority). Stark contrast with what you would see in literally every other nation. 
 

Also, why aren’t we hiring any international bowling coach?? What kind of outdated thinking is this? 

[Lord]

Umran should have got new ball let alone bowl only one over

[speedracer]

Lol at clown bowling umran for only one over.

And double lol at him opening the bowling 

 

[tapandrun]

8 hours ago, express bowling said:

 

Indian commentators are taunting his extra pace every time he comes to bowl these days. Sort of reflects the mindset in the Indian dressing room too. 

 

While you won't hear much when Arshdeep type pacers get hit. 

 

I am getting a feeling that Umran's talent will be wasted in Team India due to poor guidance and lack of backing. 

 

 

Yes this time its very clear, Arshdeep bowled rubbish and there were no words from any of the commentators.

Its clear they target only few players and thrash them out, they can not say even a single world against few super stars.

 

No ball in the last over followed by a slowish bouncers then over going for 26 shifted the momentum NZ were less than 150 before and ended more than 175 and heard no word from commentators and they had good words for few good/okish balls.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited January 28 by tapandrun

[Suhaan]

Arshadeep got smoked for three sixes,no one cares

What happened,"slower the juicy delivery ,faster it flies past the boundary",no such comments

His no ball problem is just icing on the cake

 

 

[speedracer]

5 hours ago, tapandrun said:

 

Yes this time its very clear, Arshdeep bowled rubbish and there were no words from any of the commentators.

Its clear they target only few players and thrash them out, they can not say even a single world against few super stars.

 

No ball in the last over followed by a slowish bouncers then over going for 26 shifted the momentum NZ were less than 150 before and ended more than 175 and heard no word from commentators and they had good words for few good/okish balls.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Seems like management likes 135-145 kmph who have all round skills like bouncer, yorker, ability to move the ball etc.

[express bowling]

Harshit Rana had picked up.7 wickets for 45 against a good team like Hyderabad. Dismissed them for just 124 to win it for Delhi.

[Suhaan]

Sakht L(a)unda Pandya opening the bowling ,why was he doing it?to extract movement?

Edited January 28 by Suhaan

[vishalvirsingh]

13 hours ago, MK55 said:

This guy Hardik has the tendency to do that. I remember that idiot even dropping Lockie from the side for a couple of expensive overs. 

Also why is that clown opening the bowling attack? I mean it’s fine once in a while but every f match?? This team management continues to be extremely rigid with the bowling plans.

 

Absolute morons. The bowlers had no idea what length they should bowl on this pitch. Conway looked very comfortable against Umran even in the last match. Still there were no plans in place. They couldn’t even figure out whether to bowl round the wicket or over the wicket. FFS hire some international bowling coach. 
 

 

paras mhambrey is a big failure atleast with Umran.

 

if a bowling coach cannot add value or improve a bowler - should he not loose his job.

 

only siraj has improved under mhambrey...i dont think there is a considerable improvement in any other pacer under mhambrey??

 

am i wrong

[Suhaan]

7 minutes ago, vishalvirsingh said:

only siraj has improved under mhambrey...i dont think there is a considerable improvement in any other pacer under mhambrey

Siraj was always better, remember his Australia exploits?

[vishalvirsingh]

1 hour ago, Suhaan said:

Siraj was always better, remember his Australia exploits?

earlier he was fair -now he is a world beater , he is highly skilled and also manages to bowl fast..with special fast bouncers. he always had that cross seam delivery but now he has got a few more types of balls.

may be he has not improved due to mhambrey but he has improved and it is visible with the tricks he uses ( to inswing the ball) at 137K+ pace....

[Suhaan]

6 minutes ago, vishalvirsingh said:

earlier he was fair -now he is a world beater , he is highly skilled and also manages to bowl fast..with special fast bouncers. he always had that cross seam delivery but now he has got a few more types of balls.

may be he has not improved due to mhambrey but he has improved and it is visible with the tricks he uses ( to inswing the ball) at 137K+ pace....

Mhambrey has nothing to do with Siraj

[speedracer]

1 hour ago, vishalvirsingh said:

earlier he was fair -now he is a world beater , he is highly skilled and also manages to bowl fast..with special fast bouncers. he always had that cross seam delivery but now he has got a few more types of balls.

may be he has not improved due to mhambrey but he has improved and it is visible with the tricks he uses ( to inswing the ball) at 137K+ pace....

He is a complete bowler. Best bowler of Asia at the moment. 

 

Shaheen is a nothing bowler compared to him. Nothing. Green pissants will never reach his level. He has already achieved more than shaheenaa ever will.by helping india win bgt. 

 

What a bowler he is. Phattu salah here was saying shaheen is better than siraj hahaha. 

 

If siraj played in wtc final we would be owning nz. Same in t20 world cup. Siraj is also a nz killer. Remember how he ran through nz in a patta pitch lol in India. Absolutely brutalised them for 66. 

 

And btw we picked siraj about 3 years later than we should have. He was already on fire in 2017 2018. 

 

Do you think shaheenaaah can match siraj on a flat deck ?? @DON 

 

 

[the don]

Naseem Shah bowling 149-150 kph for fun at the BPL and moving the ball.

I don’t think there is a more complete young bowler in the game atm. 
His progress has been brilliant for Pakistan. Will be good to see him partner Shaheen.

Edited January 28 by the don

[speedracer]

42 minutes ago, the don said:

Naseem Shah bowling 149-150 kph for fun at the BPL and moving the ball.

I don’t think there is a more complete young bowler in the game atm. 
His progress has been brilliant for Pakistan. Will be good to see him partner Shaheen.

He is a 4 over halwa bowler. He will probably collapse and would need to be rushed to hospital if he plays tests.

 

Don't tall about pace if his balls bounce 10 cm off the ground. He is a nothing bowler. 

 

Pak have no bowling talent.

[the don]

16 minutes ago, speedracer said:

He is a 4 over halwa bowler. He will probably collapse and would need to be rushed to hospital if he plays tests.

 

Don't tall about pace if his balls bounce 10 cm off the ground. He is a nothing bowler. 

 

Pak have no bowling talent.

Please don’t quote me with nonsense.

He is special. Better logic please.

[speedracer]

12 minutes ago, the don said:

Please don’t quote me with nonsense.

He is special. Better logic please.

Special lol. He balls like dosa special buffets in anything outside t20. He is trash. No good. 

Shaheen is your best bet and even He is trash outside new ball. Also he stinks away from home in tests. Not good enough. No strength. Not enough zip. Not enough bounce. Sorry

Just not good enough. 

 

Pak batting outside bounce conditions is ok. 

[the don]

Naseem now upto 152 kph. Hopefully PCB protects him for the 50 over worldcup.