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@express bowling: not sure if you saw bumrah's 10th over. first two balls at 123 kph, 125 kph. another couple of balls below 130 kph. good to see Trundler Bumrah operating. He is on his way to becoming a Prabhakar style swing bowling trundler.

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15 minutes ago, Vijy said:

@express bowling: not sure if you saw bumrah's 10th over. first two balls at 123 kph, 125 kph. another couple of balls below 130 kph. good to see Trundler Bumrah operating. He is on his way to becoming a Prabhakar style swing bowling trundler.

He is injured....dont think any other rationale.

He shouldn't trundle so early in test.

 

Sad to see but I will be happy if he remains injured for CT & IPL as well. Need him particularly for Tests.

 

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Just now, singhvivek141 said:

He is injured....dont think any other rationale.

He shouldn't trundle so early in test.

 

Sad to see but I will be happy if he remains injured for CT & IPL as well. Need him particularly for Tests.

 

couldn't play 5 tests consecutively. Cummins has bowled more balls per innings than he has. these are not good signs. He may potentially retire as a test bowler in a couple of years at most.

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10 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said:

He is injured....dont think any other rationale.

He shouldn't trundle so early in test.

 

Sad to see but I will be happy if he remains injured for CT & IPL as well. Need him particularly for Tests.

 

He will quit tests soon

Posted
12 minutes ago, Vijy said:

couldn't play 5 tests consecutively. Cummins has bowled more balls per innings than he has. these are not good signs. He may potentially retire as a test bowler in a couple of years at most.

No Indian celebrated fast bowlers(if ever be)will be able to pick 250-300 tests wickets

Because mandatory IPL won't allow them that

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1 minute ago, Suhaan said:

No Indian celebrated fast bowlers(if ever be)will be able to pick 250-300 tests wickets

Because mandatory IPL won't allow them that

Ishant picked up 300. Much of his int'l career did coincide with IPL era. Bumrah needs to aim for Ishant-like fitness. Not fitness in the sense of abs, pecs, etc. but just match fitness. And Ishant was not a slow bowler - could maintain decent speeds even until twilight of his career

Posted
16 minutes ago, Vijy said:

couldn't play 5 tests consecutively. Cummins has bowled more balls per innings than he has. these are not good signs. He may potentially retire as a test bowler in a couple of years at most.

Cummins has a different rhythmic action.

Bumrah bowls at a quicker pace with virtually zero runup. It is hard on his body.

 

Bumrah can prolong his career by trundking at 125-130kph...but he won't do that.

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Just now, singhvivek141 said:

Cummins has a different rhythmic action.

Bumrah bowls at a quicker pace with virtually zero runup. It is hard on his body.

 

Bumrah can prolong his career by trundking at 125-130kph...but he won't do that.

he did bowl one full over at that pace. good thing he went away soon after.

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8 minutes ago, Suhaan said:

He will quit tests soon

He should quit ODI & T20 IMO.

Shami wont play Tests now...ODIs are his best format.

Arshdeep is anyway settled for T20.

Bumrah needs to carry the baton in Tests.

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1 minute ago, Vijy said:

Ishant picked up 300. Much of his int'l career did coincide with IPL era. Bumrah needs to aim for Ishant-like fitness. Not fitness in the sense of abs, pecs, etc. but just match fitness. And Ishant was not a slow bowler - could maintain decent speeds even until twilight of his career

India should aim to groom a strike pacer other than Bumrah

Bumrah is literally carrying this attack for quite a while

Ishant wasn't the leader,he could go ineffective without criticism

Posted
1 minute ago, Vijy said:

he did bowl one full over at that pace. good thing he went away soon after.

Yeah, coz then it won't be effective. 

Bumrahs USP is his late release at a decent pace of 140ish...which often deceives the batters.

At 130k he will be just another trundler like Unadkut...who will be treated like a dirt.

Posted
1 minute ago, singhvivek141 said:

He should quit ODI & T20 IMO.

Shami wont play Tests now...ODIs are his best format.

Arshdeep is anyway settled for T20.

Bumrah needs to carry the baton in Tests.

I'm not talking about what should be done

I'm saying,he will actually retire from tests soon

This is harsh reality

Posted
1 minute ago, Suhaan said:

India should aim to groom a strike pacer other than Bumrah

Bumrah is literally carrying this attack for quite a while

Ishant wasn't the leader,he could go ineffective without criticism

it isn't about leader or not. he did bowl majority of overs for a good portion of his career.

 

With Bumrah's action, physical conditioning is even more crucial than in the case of smooth actions like Jimmy Anderson (who was still bowling several balls at 135+ at 42). He must work on it more.

Posted
1 minute ago, Suhaan said:

I'm not talking about what should be done

I'm saying,he will actually retire from tests soon

This is harsh reality

yes, will happen in 1-2 years

Posted
1 minute ago, Vijy said:

it isn't about leader or not. he did bowl majority of overs for a good portion of his career.

 

With Bumrah's action, physical conditioning is even more crucial than in the case of smooth actions like Jimmy Anderson (who was still bowling several balls at 135+ at 42). He must work on it more.

Bumrah at some point needs to reconsider his runup,he must elongate it and work with real good experts

Posted
Just now, Suhaan said:

Bumrah at some point needs to reconsider his runup,he must elongate it and work with real good experts

or needs to retire from tests soon.

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