Speeds and Performances of Pacers and Spinners

[Cricfever_64]

Wasn't NKR bowling 140km/h in IPL 2026??

[Manucrick]

28 minutes ago, Cricfever_64 said:

Wasn't NKR bowling 140km/h in IPL 2026??

Coming back from injury 

[rkt.india]

1 hour ago, Malcolm Merlyn said:

He is playing all 3 formats because of Gambhir, nothing else, once Gambhir goes, no one will pick Prasidh  he will become unprasidh

He played before Gambhir too and will play after Gambhir. He is still one of the top genuine fast bowlers in the country.

[tapandrun]

7 hours ago, Malcolm Merlyn said:

He is playing all 3 formats because of Gambhir, nothing else, once Gambhir goes, no one will pick Prasidh  he will become unprasidh

There are not many options left with Ind to go to. There are not even 5 fast bowlers on the bench.  

 

Either they have to back to avesh/mukesh/deshpandey/kamboj or stick to rana/pradish/gurnoor etc...

 

Yes pradish has not be top quality bt what other options do they have. ind pacers takes alot of time to develop. Even siraj took time.

He used to go for runs in ipl and white-ball, he 1st established himself in red-ball then in white-ball.

Edited Monday at 03:58 PM by tapandrun

[singhvivek141]

I am not able to understand the issue with Prasidh in the red ball.

 

Except for SA tour, after which he got injured. He has picked up 30 wkts in 7 Tests with an avg of ~21/22. What more we want him to do ?

 

Yeah, he doesnt deserve T20 and even ODIs we dont need him. But he hasnt done anything wrong in Tests atleast.

[singhvivek141]

1 hour ago, tapandrun said:

There are not many options left with Ind to go to. There are not even 5 fast bowlers on the bench.  

 

We have bowlers, key thing is where BCCI or selectors are brave enough to inject them ?

 

We know abour Harshit & Gurnoor...Ashok is injured but that guy has tremendous potential to succeed in Tests. Eden is there as well. Prithviraj Yarra has brilliant numbers in FC, he has lower avg and lower economy than Anshul Kambojh. He is 28 already and has good exp as well.

[tapandrun]

16 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said:

I am not able to understand the issue with Prasidh in the red ball.

 

Except for SA tour, after which he got injured. He has picked up 30 wkts in 7 Tests with an avg of ~21/22. What more we want him to do ?

 

Yeah, he doesnt deserve T20 and even ODIs we dont need him. But he hasnt done anything wrong in Tests atleast.

his test eco is 4.20 thats too high, his best format is Odis where he goes below 6 rpo.

 

There are not many other options, unless they are going to recycle avesh/mukesh. who are better options that Ind can play.  There was no foresightedness and now Ind does not have any bowlers or test batters.

 

right now Ind should look at developing some pacers for test and treat this wtc as already gone and build a team now. priority 1 should be Odi wc. looks like its on back-burner at this point. 

[tapandrun]

22 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said:

 

We have bowlers, key thing is where BCCI or selectors are brave enough to inject them ?

 

We know abour Harshit & Gurnoor...Ashok is injured but that guy has tremendous potential to succeed in Tests. Eden is there as well. Prithviraj Yarra has brilliant numbers in FC, he has lower avg and lower economy than Anshul Kambojh. He is 28 already and has good exp as well.

 

Harshit is injured or recovering from injury, Yes gurnoor is there, ashok is injured as well or recovering, eden has hardly played domestic, yarra was injured during the ipl.

 

gurnor was going for lot of run in pjb t20 league.

 

there are no real options left. Not sure why vvs is not held accountable for re-occuring injuries how the players are getting noc to play and few games and they get injured again.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited Monday at 05:39 PM by tapandrun

[singhvivek141]

11 minutes ago, tapandrun said:

his test eco is 4.20 thats too high, his best format is Odis where he goes below 6 rpo.

 

There are not many other options, unless they are going to recycle avesh/mukesh. who are better options that Ind can play.  There was no foresightedness and now Ind does not have any bowlers or test batters.

 

right now Ind should look at developing some pacers for test and treat this wtc as already gone and build a team now. priority 1 should be Odi wc. looks like its on back-burner at this point. 

That too coz of SA tour...else its around 3.3-3.5

[singhvivek141]

1 hour ago, tapandrun said:

 

Harshit is injured or recovering from injury, Yes gurnoor is there, ashok is injured as well or recovering, eden has hardly played domestic, yarra was injured during the ipl.

 

gurnor was going for lot of run in pjb t20 league.

 

there are no real options left. Not sure why vvs is not held accountable for re-occuring injuries how the players are getting noc to play and few games and they get injured again.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thats fine...Gurnoor is a wkt taking bowler.

 

Such bowler bowls attacking lines which often becomes a problem in T20s...Shami has struggled in T20s for eternity, until he became a new ball expert. Siraj too struggles a lot in T20s, Umesh, Ishant, Prasidh, Akashdeep none of them are good in T20s. Arshdeep who is good in T20s is bang average in FC.

 

Bumrah has spoiled our habits. He is the only all format bowler in the world and across countries.

 

Anyway, we need to bring in fresh pacers soon, wont be a bad choice to see what Limbani, Naman or Devendran can offer. Not sure what happened to Hangargekar.

 

Edited Monday at 06:49 PM by singhvivek141

[tapandrun]

53 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said:

 

Thats fine...Gurnoor is a wkt taking bowler.

 

Such bowler bowls attacking lines which often becomes a problem in T20s...Shami has struggled in T20s for eternity, until he became a new ball expert. Siraj too struggles a lot in T20s, Umesh, Ishant, Prasidh, Akashdeep none of them are good in T20s. Arshdeep who is good in T20s is bang average in FC.

 

Bumrah has spoiled our habits. He is the only all format bowler in the world and across countries.

 

Anyway, we need to bring in fresh pacers soon, wont be a bad choice to see what Limbani, Naman or Devendran can offer. Not sure what happened to Hangargekar.

 

Lambani is not that quick, naman is not that tall, deepesh has not played any domestic yet

 

Yes that the issue there are no 3 format players, there never was unless you try to play all formats same way. 

 

Have been mentioning this Ind pacers takes alot of time to develop, even then they are not good across the 3 formats, you have to give time chance and try out what works for them. There was no foresightedness so largely this will take alot of time.

 

Issue here is with A tours or low interest series Ind is selecting low potential bowlers who can not be longterm solution in any format

[tapandrun]

Frm google search but here is the fastest ball in krla t20 league, they are using some AI tech so on intlnl speedometer it can be lower as well.

 

 

Rank	Bowler	Team	Speed
1	Eden Apple Tom	Calicut Globstars	141.43 kmph
2	KM Asif	Trivandrum Royals	139.44 kmph
3	KM Asif	Trivandrum Royals	138.88 kmph
4	KM Asif	Trivandrum Royals	138.72 kmph
5	KM Asif	Trivandrum Royals	138.50 kmph

[Suhaan]

2 hours ago, tapandrun said:

Frm google search but here is the fastest ball in krla t20 league, they are using some AI tech so on intlnl speedometer it can be lower as well.

 

 

Rank	Bowler	Team	Speed
1	Eden Apple Tom	Calicut Globstars	141.43 kmph
2	KM Asif	Trivandrum Royals	139.44 kmph
3	KM Asif	Trivandrum Royals	138.88 kmph
4	KM Asif	Trivandrum Royals	138.72 kmph
5	KM Asif	Trivandrum Royals	138.50 kmph

 

 

 

Apple Tom bowls quicker in red ball in extended spells that I have seen live,that data looks out of place,is it the avg pace or fastest delivery?

[tapandrun]

3 minutes ago, Suhaan said:

Apple Tom bowls quicker in red ball in extended spells that I have seen live,that data looks out of place,is it the avg pace or fastest delivery?

fastest delivery, can google it there is some fb page

[Suhaan]

14 minutes ago, tapandrun said:

fastest delivery, can google it there is some fb page

Tom is quicker than what this data shows

[tapandrun]

1 minute ago, Suhaan said:

Tom is quicker than what this data shows

may be t20 does not come naturally  to him , they are not suing hawk eye . so there can be some variance 

[tapandrun]

Food for thought :

 

By obsessing over the rare commodity of an all-format spearhead, India is inadvertently shrinking its fast-bowling pool; instead of cultivating a deep reservoir of talent for specific formats and conditions, potential specialists are being neglected in the hunt for an all-format savior

 

Here are the options:

Simranjeet

Mishra

Mukesh Choudhary

Mukesh Kumar

Tyagi

Umran

Sen

 

Edited yesterday at 01:46 AM by tapandrun

[singhvivek141]

3 hours ago, tapandrun said:

Frm google search but here is the fastest ball in krla t20 league, they are using some AI tech so on intlnl speedometer it can be lower as well.

 

 

Rank	Bowler	Team	Speed
1	Eden Apple Tom	Calicut Globstars	141.43 kmph
2	KM Asif	Trivandrum Royals	139.44 kmph
3	KM Asif	Trivandrum Royals	138.88 kmph
4	KM Asif	Trivandrum Royals	138.72 kmph
5	KM Asif	Trivandrum Royals	138.50 kmph

 

 

 

Asif is faster than this.

[tapandrun]

Just now, singhvivek141 said:

Asif is faster than this.

Think this could be his speeds now, he used to bowling  140-145 kmph in t20s but that long time back.

What was hip top speeds for rr -- 142 kmph ?? 

[singhvivek141]

29 minutes ago, tapandrun said:

Think this could be his speeds now, he used to bowling  140-145 kmph in t20s but that long time back.

What was hip top speeds for rr -- 142 kmph ?? 

Dont remember for RR, but for CSK I remember him clocking 148/149.

He always had pace, but his other skills were pretty limited. To add to it, CSK isnt known for supporting fast bowlers, coz Chepauk during Dhoni's prime years was a slow turner with bounce. Hence the faster bowlers deliveries will sit right through in the hitting arc...