Sharmageddon !! - VICTORY REACTIONS THREAD

[vvvslaxman]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/cricket/index.html :cantstop:

[veer]

new thread?

[vvvslaxman]

new thread?

Use it for Victory reactions :winky:

[ThePhenomenal1]

ahahahaha england trolled and shamed by india ohhh chak de

[vvvslaxman]

Jonathan Agnew ‏@Aggerscricket 5h Inability to cope with short stuff a legacy from Mitchell Johnson

[Marco Polo]

I still remember the headlines in the same English news paper on 2011 which said " Indian batsmen running scared". Suck it up Engerland.

[vvvslaxman]

Peter Moores is finding, like most of those before, that returning to an old job is unlikely to have a happy ending Remember Life Begins? You have no reason to, unless your hobbies involve the obsessive documentation of mid-2000s beige-tinted ITV dramas. If you do retain a depressing familiarity with the third or fourth or fifth page of the Freeview planner and have a shared interest in the current fortunes of the England Test side, the fortunes of Maggie and Phil might just have struck the faintest cord. Phil (Alexander Armstrong), doe-eyed and fallible in the manner of a recalcitrant puppy, leaves Maggie (Caroline Quentin), stolid, reliable, solid ad comforting nauseam, in search of greener, more exciting meadows. Realising his mistake, Phil returns – and, this being prime-time homely feel-good television, things return to normal, with the odd dully ironic twist. Peter Moores’ renewal of his England vows, however, shows no sign of such a sepia-tinted ending. His side’s latest collapse will load pressure firstly onto the slumping shoulders of Alastair Cook, secondly onto the misfiring bats and gloves of Ian Bell and Matt Prior. But perhaps the fault lines through this England team run deeper than their obvious deficiencies at the top and in the middle of the batting order; deeper even than their chronic lack of a frontline spinner. In sport, unlike in TV drama, renewing conjugal relations with a team usually ends in a doubling of failure, humiliation and recrimination. Consider Matt Busby. Having forged a cast-iron reputation as a Manchester United icon through fifteen years of service, Busby returned to the club in 1970, just a year after leaving. He steered United to eighth, but could do nothing to prevent their relegation just three seasons later. Compared with Busby, Moores’ first spell atop English cricket’s marital castle was hardly a bath in rosewater. After the honeymoon of a series win against the West Indies aided in large part by a Kevin Pietersen double-century and ten wickets from Monty Panesar there followed the mid-life disappointment of a series defeat against South Africa, which precipitated the resignation of Michael Vaughan and the ill-fated appointment of Pietersen. That trial separation was quickly followed by one of more permanence. After an attempt at an Indian reconciliation ended in a 1-0 defeat, Moores and Pietersen both left their jobs. To return to a sporting relationship after failure should be lauded: it requires bravery and no little passion for the job to confront the scene of one’s former mistakes. But failure is a difficult stain to eradicate, particularly since it comes attached to its own complicated partner, memory. Key figures like Broad, Anderson and Prior experienced the worst days of the first Moores regime. Now that an even more severe rot of losses appears to have set in, it would take an increasingly naïve optimist to expect an outcome happier than the first divorce. Sportsmen are not robots whose memories can be wiped clean upon command. They may be more robust mentally than the man with his hamper sitting in the Tavern Stand – but they are still prone to the same concerns and niggles provoked by the faults of the past. Kevin Keegan returned to Newcastle United and sullied a once-brilliant legacy. Kenny Dalglish tarnished his trophy haul at Liverpool with an increasingly rancorous 18 months in charge. Moores, unfortunately, has no such comforting holiday photo albums to fall back on. Giving things another go was not the comfortable option. It was the opposite, in fact – a journey back into what always looked like thorny territory. But if England carry on losing, sentiment alone will not be enough to save the relationship between England and her luckless, reconciled ex.

[coffee_rules]

[vvvslaxman]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/cricket/international/england/10981397/England-v-India-MS-Dhoni-shows-Alastair-Cook-the-impact-of-instinctive-proactive-captaincy.html England v India: MS Dhoni shows Alastair Cook the impact of instinctive, proactive captaincy India captain's decision to put on Ishant Sharma in the final over before lunch not only snared Moeen Ali's wicket, it highlighted the failings of the present England incumbent The crucial intervention of MS Dhoni five minutes before lunch on Monday proved the impact of instinctive, proactive captaincy. Ishant Sharma had just bowled an over costing 13 as Joe Root unfurled a sequence of silky strokes through the covers, and England had managed to accumulate 67 runs in the session without losing a wicket. There was one over to go before the break. It is a traditional custom to give a spinner the last over before lunch, for a manifold of mostly illogical reasons, and on a wearing pitch, we expected Dhoni to do the same. But Dhoni does not captain by cliché. Borrowing from the philosophy of many a gimlet-eyed Australian captain, he put himself in the England batsmen's shoes and considered what they would least want. These were two young men who had fought hard to keep their wickets intact and were already imagining devouring a plate of Lord's delicious lamb cutlets. The answer was an over of serious short-pitchers with a suitable field, two short legs, two men on the hook and a fine third man for the possible uppercut. It was a strategy that declared 'if you want this prize you are going to have to show some courage and some character as well as commitment'. Sharma's support for this idea was eventually secured (bear in mind overworked fast bowlers are contemplating lunch too). Sharma's first bouncer was hurriedly ducked by Root, the second parried down infront of him, the third taken on the shoulder. The batsmen ran a leg bye. Now Moeen Ali was on strike. Two bouncers fizzed harmlessly down the legside, but the third scored a bullseye. It was straight and fast and didn't bounce quite as high as Moeen anticipated. He ducked into it and could only fend it to short leg. Moeen's dejected walk off was accompanied by the slow exhalation of English optimism. Dhoni has made a career out of doing the unexpected. Regular Indian Premier League watchers see it every few days with unusual selections and bowling changes and batting promotions, and most famously in the 2011 World Cup final when, despite being hopelessly out of form, he promoted himself to No 5 and won the match with a superbly calculated 91 not out. He did it without even consulting Duncan Fletcher, the India coach. In this match he batted completely out of character in India's second innings to grind the England bowlers down with a laborious 19 (from 86 balls) making them vulnerable to attack from India's lower order. He sprung a surprise on England's batsmen on Sunday night by giving Ravi Jadeja's left-arm spin the sixth over of the innings. He snared Sam Robson lbw with his first ball. Dhoni even had the confidence and individuality to stand five yards back from the stumps to Jadeja to intercept possible deliveries leaping out of the rough. If Matt Prior had adopted such measures they would have been laughed at by English supporters. When Root and Prior were merrily hooking Sharma¹s bouncers after lunch with three men posted on the legside boundary we did wonder if Dhoni had overdone the bodyline tactics. He had completely ignored taking the second new ball that everyone thought would be the telling factor. But we underestimated this England team's ability to self-harm. Prior, Ben Stokes and the otherwise admirable Root behaved like a trapped bird that flies in panic against the windows in an increasingly painful attempt to escape. It was crass, brainless cricket that left England with one terrible headache. Alastair Cook was thoroughly decent and honest in his admissions of personal and collective failure afterwards. He was also seen in conversation with his chief critic Shane Warne, a sensible and pragmatic move to draw on his knowledge and ideas. Cook would do anything to help his and England's cause. But the reality is good captains are given not made, and now he has 'England bounced out by India' on his CV. It's like being beaten by Zimbabwe at sailing. :hysterical::hysterical: Seriously.. Net result has absolved of all his tactical errors.. albeit with the help of Cook's captaincy.

[Old guy]

i will never take their media seriously

[Stuge]

I read this ..I kinda laughed too :hysterical:

[Precambrian]

Obviously Dhoni wouldn't have consulted Fletcher before he promoted himself during world cup final, because kirsten was the coach. Wasn't he?

[Fontaine]

Jonathan Agnew ‏@Aggerscricket 5h Inability to cope with short stuff a legacy from Mitchell Johnson

This tweet sums up the entire freakin' problem with England. When the other team genuinely beats you then it must be Cook got it wrong. When the other team genuinely outbowls you then it must be poor batting by England. When the other team out bats you it's just a poor day for Anderson/Broad. When the other team destroys you with short pitched bowling then it must be a hangover from Johnson. Agnew, Vaughn, Strauss, Botham are loathed to give India full credit. I mean seriously, Ishant Sharma bounced out their middle/lower order and they give credit to Mitchell Johnson. GTFO.

[coffee_rules]

This tweet sums up the entire freakin' problem with England. When the other team genuinely beats you then it must be Cook got it wrong. When the other team genuinely outbowls you then it must be poor batting by England. When the other team out bats you it's just a poor day for Anderson/Broad. When the other team destroys you with short pitched bowling then it must be a hangover from Johnson. Agnew, Vaughn, Strauss, Botham are loathed to give India full credit. I mean seriously, Ishant Sharma bounced out their middle/lower order and they give credit to Mitchell Johnson. GTFO.

English/Aus cricket is solely Ashes centric. It has been like this for generations. In 2013 when Michael Clarke came to India series, all the focus from Aus media was how they will select the team in Ashes for the summer.

[ThePhenomenal1]

English media are so bitter. Always like this. India has trumped them and they can't take it. Vaughan cant take it. But we can! Ahahahahahaha best day in ages for india. Well played Champs! Shabaash!

[vvvslaxman]

Tom Moody @TomMoodyCricket · 7h England can't afford to continue to carry on with their heads buried in the sand, changes needed. #EngvInd

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Narendra Modi @narendramodi · 7h Well played Team India! Congrats on the wonderful victory at Lord's. We are very delighted & proud of the great performance.

[Yoda-esque]

Narendra Modi @narendramodi · 7h Well played Team India! Congrats on the wonderful victory at Lord's. We are very delighted & proud of the great performance.

Acche din aa gaye

[putrevus]

What is this bullcrap we are hearing from england, we should have bowled them for 170 . What that implies , they were not upto the mark so india won rather india being very good. If they were upto the mark indians had no chance. Since when Broad and anderson became atg fast bowlers facing them would be batsmen's nightmare.

[putrevus]

Tom Moody @TomMoodyCricket · 7h England can't afford to continue to carry on with their heads buried in the sand, changes needed. #EngvInd

What nonsense what changes can be made, these morons are idiots, all the new comers have done their bit, how can you drop cook or bell . So what fricking changes have to be made nothing, you just have to ride the wave, Prior gets abused by english media but he deserves better.