BERGKAMP Posted August 6, 2014 Posted August 6, 2014 Give it back to them and move on.dont waste time any further on this and focus on test series. yes exactly. deal with it on the field. he calls you a C, tell him to F off. fight fire with fire. at the end of the day what has come out of this is that jimmy is a cnut, dhoni is a cnut, bcci are cnutss and ecb are cnuts. what a sorry episode, now it is closed everyone needs to move on.
asterix Posted August 6, 2014 Posted August 6, 2014 Dhobi and his minions should now get on with the actual task of playing cricket... Enough dramabazi already.. Also no need to play that darter Jaddu in all the matches... Enough has been done to support him... No need to keep selecting him to show support...
vvvslaxman Posted August 6, 2014 Posted August 6, 2014 Icc punished another player for abusing but if Anderson abuses an Indian thats all fine. Give it back?And then cope with a ICC ban or fine? Learn to sledge then like Johnson who covers his mouth when he abuses. Lol. Unless you have proof don't stand there listening to abuse. Give it back or atleast talk with your bat or ball. Tendulkar, dravid, kumble have all had their share abuses. They replied in the right way.
vvvslaxman Posted August 6, 2014 Posted August 6, 2014 Let us stop acting like victims. Regardless of outcome BCCI is still powerful. Not sure what they can do about it. We cannot possibly say we will quit the tour if Andu is not penalized like we did with Bucknor.
TheWall Posted August 6, 2014 Posted August 6, 2014 OUr players should star sledging more and may be get physical once in a while...
BERGKAMP Posted August 6, 2014 Posted August 6, 2014 best thing would have been for dhoni to grow a pair and give anderson a clip round the ears with his special bat. icc would then suspend dhoni for 10 tests, anderson looks like a cnut, and indian fans can look forward to a fresh new era :winky:
Fontaine Posted August 6, 2014 Posted August 6, 2014 The basic problem is that the lack of a judgement sets a very very bad precendent. During the hearing, Anderson confessed to pushing and abusing Jadeja but insisted that the physical contact was an instinctive reaction, a move in self-defence as the Indian all-rounder had moved aggressively towards him. Any player can now say (on or off the pitch) that if another player approaches them aggressively then physically react by pushing them/putting their hands on them and verbally abusing them all in self defense. We see players moving "aggressively" towards other players all the time. Whether it's running between wickets, batsmen approaching bowlers and so on, then any player can push them and react physically and say "it was self defense." What's even more ridiculous is that the judgement panel said that no personal offensive language/abuse should be used but then refused to punish Anderson who again confessed to abusing Jadeja even though Jadeja didn't say anything to them. It's no secret but the standard is clearly set. The ICC can issue recommendations all they want but they never really enforce anything on these matters.
Malcolm Merlyn Posted August 6, 2014 Posted August 6, 2014 The basic problem is that the lack of a judgement sets a very very bad precendent. Any player can now say (on or off the pitch) that if another player approaches them aggressively then physically react by pushing them/putting their hands on them and verbally abusing them all in self defense. We see players moving "aggressively" towards other players all the time. Whether it's running between wickets, batsmen approaching bowlers and so on, then any player can push them and react physically and say "it was self defense." What's even more ridiculous is that the judgement panel said that no personal offensive language/abuse should be used but then refused to punish Anderson who again confessed to abusing Jadeja even though Jadeja didn't say anything to them. It's no secret but the standard is clearly set. The ICC can issue recommendations all they want but they never really enforce anything on these matters. Finally someone understands the point.
FreakazoiD Posted August 6, 2014 Posted August 6, 2014 The real question is - if it was someone else instead of Jadeja, say Stuart Binny or Wriddhiman Saha for example, would MSD have reacted the same way? On a lighter note, instead of whinging to the ICC, Dhoni and BCCI should invite England to an ODI game in Ranchi on their next Indian tour, and Anderson can be a special overnight "guest" at Dhoni's Haveli.
vvvslaxman Posted August 6, 2014 Posted August 6, 2014 The real question is - if it was someone else instead of Jadeja' date=' say Stuart Binny or Wriddhiman Saha for example, would MSD have reacted the same way?[/quote'] Rahane did get abused. with evidence. India did not press any charges.
Lord Posted August 6, 2014 Posted August 6, 2014 Rahane did get abused. with evidence. India did not press any charges. I dont think they laid charges for just abuse even for Jaddu.Abusing/Sledging happens all the time. Pushing and threatening are different things though
vvvslaxman Posted August 6, 2014 Posted August 6, 2014 I dont think they laid charges for just abuse even for Jaddu.Abusing/Sledging happens all the time. Pushing and threatening are different things though ECB wanted to settle it with an apology which is what Farook Enginner feels should have been done. Dhoni wanted to troll them and ended up getting trolled due to lack of evidence. This English side is a softie side overall. So i consider it as an insult that we just took the crap they threw at us without any retaliation. Atleast after winning 2nd test they should have done something. Would have been sweet. I still savor the moment when Prasad said eff off to Sohail after he got dismissed.
Lord Posted August 6, 2014 Posted August 6, 2014 ECB wanted to settle it with an apology which is what Farook Enginner feels should have been done. Dhoni wanted to troll them and ended up getting trolled due to lack of evidence. This English side is a softie side overall. So i consider it as an insult that we just took the crap they threw at us without any retaliation. Atleast after winning 2nd test they should have done something. Would have been sweet. I still savor the moment when Prasad said eff off to Sohail after he got dismissed. Settling for apology would have been a bad precedent.Anyone can do anything and apologise later without getting punished.Dhoni wanted Anderson to be punished but it didnt happen due to ECB cameras not being on at right moment.Not his fault. Prasad moment was brilliant bcoz he replied with the ball before saying eff off lol.That can't really happen off the field.Only thing they might have come to blows lol.That'd been stupider
vvvslaxman Posted August 6, 2014 Posted August 6, 2014 Settling for apology would have been a bad precedent.Anyone can do anything and apologise later without getting punished.Dhoni wanted Anderson to be punished but it didnt happen due to ECB cameras not being on at right moment.Not his fault. Prasad moment was brilliant bcoz he replied with the ball before saying eff off lol.That can't really happen off the field.Only thing they might have come to blows lol.That'd been stupider INdia had great opportunity when Jaddu ran Anderson out and he was in grovelling possition. :cantstop:
GautiMaan Posted August 6, 2014 Posted August 6, 2014 INdia had great opportunity when Jaddu ran Anderson out and he was in grovelling possition. :cantstop: That was poetic,team should have left English shores that evening itself.
King Tendulkar Posted August 6, 2014 Posted August 6, 2014 Does this mean we have to accept DRS as well?
Laaloo Posted August 6, 2014 Posted August 6, 2014 MEh Get on with the game already and show this fire on the field
asterix Posted August 6, 2014 Posted August 6, 2014 MEh Get on with the game already and show this fire on the field Exactly... Why not show some aggression on the field? Dhoni should ditch his "Nobel Peace Prize" campaign for the remaining matches of the series...
Yoda-esque Posted August 6, 2014 Posted August 6, 2014 http://www.espncricinfo.com/england-v-india-2014/content/story/767497.html Excellent qualities shown by MSD.True Leader.
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