G_B_ Posted August 19, 2014 Posted August 19, 2014 people on the ground know exactly who did it........
asterix Posted August 19, 2014 Posted August 19, 2014 nope but thank you for showcasing how much of a retard you are by making this statement You need a "I am with stupid" smiley here... :giggle:
FischerTal Posted August 19, 2014 Posted August 19, 2014 people on the ground know exactly who did it........ nope. aaptards have already decided it is BJPs fault therefore we must accept its their fault.
randomGuy Posted August 19, 2014 Posted August 19, 2014 nope. aaptards have already decided it is BJPs fault therefore we must accept its their fault. or the retards from the bjp are purposefully blind If true then Raghav Lakhanpal ki 2019 elections main ticket pakki.
FischerTal Posted August 19, 2014 Posted August 19, 2014 or the retards from the bjp are purposefully blind lol you think by writing "if true" you have become impartial? you are the same guy who ran AAP photo campaign on ICF during the election. :hysterical: how much did kho-kho kejriwal pay you? :hmmm:
randomGuy Posted August 19, 2014 Posted August 19, 2014 lol you think by writing "if true" you have become impartial? you are the same guy who ran AAP photo campaign on ICF during the election. :hysterical: and you think that even if one specifically writes 'if true' he must 'have already decided'. hide your sorry self behind smilies , you will also find your buddies to help you with supporting posts.
G_B_ Posted August 19, 2014 Posted August 19, 2014 nope. aaptards have already decided it is BJPs fault therefore we must accept its their fault. who gives a **** what they think. Its like a lion caring about the thoughts of a sheep. AAP can keep on barking. The more they eat into the secular votes the better.
FischerTal Posted August 19, 2014 Posted August 19, 2014 and you think that even if one specifically writes 'if true' he must 'have already decided'. hide your sorry self behind smilies , you will also find your buddies to help you with supporting posts. normally i wouldn't but in the case of a kejri-bhakt like you, its tough not to think like that. even if kejriwal announces the cure for cancer tomorrow, both you and raghav will be immediately asking for donations here on ICF by saying "our dear leader cured cancer, now donate to AAP"
randomGuy Posted August 19, 2014 Posted August 19, 2014 who gives a **** what they think. Its like a lion caring about the thoughts of a sheep. AAP can keep on barking. The more they eat into the secular votes the better. good. have this attitude and do not care to engage with AAP supporters here. because the difference/biases are too big to be reconciled.
FischerTal Posted August 19, 2014 Posted August 19, 2014 who gives a **** what they think. Its like a lion caring about the thoughts of a sheep. AAP can keep on barking. The more they eat into the secular votes the better. not secular by any means. the twisted, warped definition of secularism in India is the reason for such riots. a community is protesting because a court judgement didn't go their way. in which world are these people secular?
Raghav_12 Posted August 19, 2014 Posted August 19, 2014 who gains more in muslim dominated UP? So Muslim is a dominating religion in UP. Issue is with your math or with your geography?
diga Posted August 19, 2014 Posted August 19, 2014 So Muslim is a dominating religion in UP. Issue is with your math or with your geography? I did not say "dominating relegion" Check the breakup of UP population community wise & add up the numbers for BJP vs non-BJP
Raghav_12 Posted August 19, 2014 Posted August 19, 2014 I did not say "dominating relegion" Check the breakup of UP population community wise & add up the numbers for BJP vs non-BJP can you help me with identification of BJP-communities and Non-BJP communities, so that I can do the counting? Also please help me with BJP-Religion and Non-BJP Religion, I'll do the counting for those and will give you numbers.
diga Posted August 19, 2014 Posted August 19, 2014 can you help me with identification of BJP-communities and Non-BJP communities' date=' so that I can do the counting? Also please help me with BJP-Religion and Non-BJP Religion, I'll do the counting for those and will give you numbers.[/quote'] BJP won 70 odd seats in UP courtesy of increased vote share from Muslims.. someone wants to wean away those votes & what better way than riots? Isnt this a possibility too? check the tables in the below links.. http://www.niticentral.com/2014/07/26/muslim-votes-and-bjps-uttar-pradesh-victory-234688.html http://5forty3.in/2014/05/
rkt.india Posted August 19, 2014 Posted August 19, 2014 Why do you think all (well vast majority of) hindus vote for bjp in J&K ? Fact - only bjp stands to gain from religious polarization in UP (or in almost any state). These elections were not on Hindu-Muslim divide. Hindu and Muslim both voted for BJP in J&K. You cannot win that many seats in J&K without Muslim votes. The reason BJP won was people wanted change. Polarization alone wont bring you 282 seats in this country. If that was the case, BJP would have had full majority in 1998 or when Ayodhya issue was going.
rkt.india Posted August 19, 2014 Posted August 19, 2014 Do you deny the fact that BJP gains through communal polarization? Yes, like all other parties, but polarization alone isnt enough to get you 282 seats. We had bigger polarization due to Ayodhya issues in mid 90s when ABV govt. came and event then they did not get the majority. Problem why votes are polarized is appeasement politics and partial treatment of different communities, especially in UP. Lot of seats BJP won in UP were SP and BSP forts for years, but the way SP govt. came out in favor of one community that is Muslims, it helped BJP more than SP. The issue that instigated riots was another example of appeasement and partial governance by SP govt. Other parties are as much to blame for communal tensions. Even if BJP isnt involved, they will automatically be benefited from those issues.
randomGuy Posted August 19, 2014 Posted August 19, 2014 These elections were not on Hindu-Muslim divide. Hindu and Muslim both voted for BJP in J&K. You cannot win that many seats in J&K without Muslim votes. The reason BJP won was people wanted change. Polarization alone wont bring you 282 seats in this country. If that was the case' date=' BJP would have had full majority in 1998 or when Ayodhya issue was going.[/quote'] even if bjp was worse than other J&K parties, more hindus in jammu will still vote for them than for other parties.
seedhi Posted August 19, 2014 Posted August 19, 2014 This "who benefits" argument is an old demagogic trick, employed by hacks like Zaid Hamid and his ilk to weave conspiracy theories which abound on pakistani "news" channels. Some examples : a. Who benefited from 9/11 ? Neo-cons in USA, so they must have done it ! b. Who benefited from 26/11 ? Right-wingers in India, so RSS must have done it ! c. Who is behind ISIS ? Israel of course, as it benefits from chaos in Middle-East ! Not surprising that the green brigade here has also picked it up.
randomGuy Posted August 19, 2014 Posted August 19, 2014 Thanks for telling the truth. The hindus have always been more communal minded. Try n understand the point. the point is - that region is polarized . Hindus voting for BJP even if it was worse than other parties (on various parameters) in that region could still very well be justifiable (and is justifiable imo). BJP knows it stands to gain if it creates communal tension in states like UP.
Number Posted August 19, 2014 Posted August 19, 2014 BJP might be behind 100 other riots there but it is definitely not related to this. Always knew some of the AAPians have closet leanings towards Mulayam SP. Good that its coming out in open now. Same bunch will be rooting for likes Laaloo in Bihar elections with their anti-corruption ideology.
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