Old guy Posted December 30, 2014 Posted December 30, 2014 And that's the basic problem - both are crappy wicketkeepers like Dhoni. What the team needs is a good wicketkeeper who can contribute 20-30 runs away' date=' not a goalkeeper who pisses his pants and does not attempt catches.[/quote'] which i agree with ..i have always backed saha for exact same reason but knowing this is india we will pick batsman who can keep over keeper who can bat so discussing these guys is not that far fetched also i believe samson is young enough that if he tries to improve now he can make it . i think if we give saha run of 5-6 games he will deliver he is back bone of bengal side in batting and people underrate his batting a lot .
Gollum Posted December 30, 2014 Posted December 30, 2014 Saha for now. Want Naman Ojha as a batsman in place of Dhawan. Hope Sanju starts taking keeping seriously. He is still very young and his easiest passage to indian team is WK role.
Gollum Posted December 30, 2014 Posted December 30, 2014 We need a genuinely good keeper who can dive around and take catches, energize the fielding unit with his attitude. This can help us a long way in restricting opposition teams from scoring mammoth totals. An avg of 25 is good enough for me provided he is a top WK. Gilchrist gave a false notion of the role of WK, he was a unique breed and such players are born once in a few decades. Since Gilchrist era all teams want good batsmen who can keep instead of good keepers. That is why Saha fits the bill for now.
Old guy Posted December 30, 2014 Posted December 30, 2014 We need a genuinely good keeper who can dive around and take catches, energize the fielding unit with his attitude. This can help us a long way in restricting opposition teams from scoring mammoth totals. An avg of 25 is good enough for me provided he is a top WK. Gilchrist gave a false notion of the role of WK, he was a unique breed and such players are born once in a few decades. Since Gilchrist era all teams want good batsmen who can keep instead of good keepers. That is why Saha fits the bill for now. problem is we get away with this stuff at home we get away with playing batsman who can keep a bit and playing 4 bowlers and we get tempted to play extra batsman.. in shorter formats it can work but n tests they need to just understand how much a good keeper can make difference the job of first slip will be much easier too if he knows keeper will go for catches which will fall short ..
jatinder Posted December 31, 2014 Posted December 31, 2014 Ranji Trophy, 2014/15 / Records / Most dismissals Most dismissals Player Mat Inns Dis Ct St Max Dis Inns Dis/Inn PR Shah 3* 6 21 19 2 6 (5ct 1st) 3.500 (Baroda) G Khera 4* 7 18 18 0 5 (5ct 0st) 2.571 (Punjab) O Haroon 4* 6 15 15 0 4 (4ct 0st) 2.500 (Jammu & Kashmir) SP Goswami 3* 4 14 14 0 6 (6ct 0st) 3.500 (Bengal) CM Gautam 3 6 14 14 0 5 (5ct 0st) 2.333 (Karnataka) M Rawat 4* 6 14 13 1 5 (5ct 0st) 2.333 (Railways) KS Bharat 3 4 13 13 0 4 (4ct 0st) 3.250 (Andhra) ER Dwivedi 3* 5 13 13 0 4 (4ct 0st) 2.600 (Uttar Pradesh) YV Takawale 4* 7 13 13 0 4 (4ct 0st) 1.857 (Tripura) P Bisht 3 6 12 12 0 4 (4ct 0st) 2.000 (Delhi) RH Motwani 3 6 11 11 0 3 (3ct 0st) 1.833 (Maharashtra) AV Ubarhande 3* 5 10 10 0 4 (4ct 0st) 2.000 (Vidarbha) AK Bains 3* 6 10 8 2 3 (3ct 0st) 1.666 (Himachal Pradesh) AP Tare 4* 8 10 10 0 4 (4ct 0st) 1.250 (Mumbai) H Das 2 3 9 9 0 5 (5ct 0st) 3.000 (Odisha) D Lochab 4* 5 9 8 1 4 (4ct 0st) 1.800 (Services) PA Patel 3 6 9 9 0 3 (3ct 0st) 1.500 (Gujarat) I Khaleel 3* 5 8 6 2 3 (2ct 1st) 1.600 (Hyderabad (India)) DH Yagnik 3 5 8 8 0 3 (3ct 0st) 1.600 (Rajasthan) SD Jogiyani 4* 6 8 7 1 2 (2ct 0st) 1.333 (Saurashtra) N Saini 4 8 8 7 1 3 (3ct 0st) 1.000 (Haryana) NV Ojha 2* 3 6 5 1 4 (4ct 0st) 2.000 (Madhya Pradesh) KA Vaz 3 3 6 6 0 4 (4ct 0st) 2.000 (Goa) N Surendran 3 6 6 6 0 3 (3ct 0st) 1.000 (Kerala) Zafar Ali 2 4 5 5 0 2 (2ct 0st) 1.250 (Madhya Pradesh) U Sushil 3* 5 5 4 1 2 (1ct 1st) 1.000 (Tamil Nadu) AA Akhtar 1* 2 4 4 0 3 (3ct 0st) 2.000 (Rajasthan) KD Karthik 4* 2 3 3 0 3 (3ct 0st) 1.500 (Tamil Nadu) Ishan Kishan 2* 3 3 3 0 2 (2ct 0st) 1.000 (Jharkhand) KN Saikia 3* 5 3 3 0 2 (2ct 0st) 0.600 (Assam) H Ahmed 1 2 2 2 0 2 (2ct 0st) 1.000 (Hyderabad (India)) SD Sahoo 1 2 2 2 0 2 (2ct 0st) 1.000 (Odisha) RV Uthappa 3 0 1 1 0 1 (1ct 0st) - (Karnataka) R Keni 1* 1 1 0 1 1 (0ct 1st) 1.000 (Goa) SK Patel 2 1 0 0 0 0 0.000 (Gujarat) S Ghosh 1 2 0 0 0 0 0.000 (Jharkhand) SV Samson 4* 2 0 0 0 0 0.000 (Kerala)
Magneto Posted December 31, 2014 Posted December 31, 2014 Lol, even Uthappa applying for WK job in Tests. Where is Bisla now?
Lord Posted December 31, 2014 Posted December 31, 2014 Has to be Saha.Best keeper and solid batsman.Don't read too much into his brainfart at Adelaide.He was asked to bat aggresively which isnt his game.Looked good in first innings but got wrong decision
Magneto Posted December 31, 2014 Posted December 31, 2014 Login to ICF after a few months and see Ojha and Samson being touted around as keepers! Look around a little more and you'll find Uthappa being touted as a replacement too. If someone puts up a poll about the best possible replacement, I'm sure Uthappa will get 4-5 votes at least.
Magneto Posted December 31, 2014 Posted December 31, 2014 Has to be Saha.Best keeper and solid batsman.Don't read too much into his brainfart at Adelaide.He was asked to bat aggresively which isnt his game.Looked good in first innings but got wrong decision The other problem is Saha has played three one-off Tests in 2010, 2012 and 2014. So no one really remembers what he did. In the first, he notched up two 50-run partnerships with the tail (Bhajji and Zak), in the second he had a century partnership with Kohli (at Adelaide) and in the third he was batting well till he got a wrong decision. But most people only remember the brainfart because of its timing. He needs to be given a proper run now to figure out whether he is cut out for the big league.
VRV Singh Posted December 31, 2014 Author Posted December 31, 2014 Has to be Saha.Best keeper and solid batsman.Don't read too much into his brainfart at Adelaide.He was asked to bat aggresively which isnt his game.Looked good in first innings but got wrong decision Yeah. I don't think he is anything amazing with the bat but as much as anything we need someone who can form partnerships down the order and provide solid support to those around him. 25 (18) innings are not much use. I back Saha to be able to do this. But clearly on away tours there will be someone as backup just interesting to discuss who.
Mindreader Posted December 31, 2014 Posted December 31, 2014 Now skindia aka uthappa can try his luck in 4 day ranji,best choice if skill improvement
Pagalpanti Posted December 31, 2014 Posted December 31, 2014 Dinesh Karthik seems to have matured as a batsman but how is his keeping? He was pretty poor keeper to spinners iirc
Old guy Posted December 31, 2014 Posted December 31, 2014 Dinesh Karthik seems to have matured as a batsman but how is his keeping? He was pretty poor keeper to spinners iirc He for some reason bottles it at international level also his keeping is never safe ...
Precambrian Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 Login to ICF after a few months and see Ojha and Samson being touted around as keepers! So in your eternal wisdom what's the solution?
BeautifulGame Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 Dinesh Karthik seems to have matured as a batsman but how is his keeping? He was pretty poor keeper to spinners iirc He has regressed both as Keeper and batsman in last 2 years
BeautifulGame Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 Give Saha a decent go. After him the best choice is Gautham .Should send on a couple of away tours
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