dial_100 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Difference between race and religion. We have clear laws for race. You think we should have similar laws for religion. I think not. I think all religions need to evolve and provocation and debates are necessary. Of course, this incident further reinforces that fact. They offended all religions. Did you see what they drew on Christmas ? No, difference between race and religion is that Race is by birth and can never be altered. Religion is man made is accepted by choice. That they don't care about. For Muslims, they are only concerned about their own religion, that too attack by outsider. When Taliban killed those little kids, you will never find muslim kids from London or wherever, taking guns and going to Afganistan-pakistan and targeting these Talibani people or any other muslims. And irony is they don't accept it ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akshayxyz Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Must watch for the discussion Ry3NzkAOo3s Brilliant response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detonator Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Appeasement Comes Back to Haunt France Must read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sachinism Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 And how many Muslims have gone to kill the cartoonists? Only 4 more than the number of Jews. Yet the whole of the Muslim community has to suffer from this. Yup, its playing into the terrorists hands. They need supporters, they need funding, they need skilled individuals. What better way to get people running to you than to perform an attack, let people react angrily so they ostracise moderates even further in western society that they're driven straight into the hands of the terrorists. There are many things wrong with Islam (and every other religion) but most people are able to remain devout and a productive member of society. The generalising and ostracising only benefits one group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sachin=GOD Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 The values of the Enlightenment must prevail France has failed to successfully integrate its six-million-strong Muslim population, the largest in Europe. Many immigrant families, most of them from North Africa’s Maghreb region of Algeria, Tunisia, Morocco see themselves living in relative deprivation in deprived ghettoes in the capital’s far-flung suburbs. Youngsters living in these areas and with Muslim sounding names find it difficult to get jobs. An experiment conducted by an NGO was telling. It sent out 1,800 CVs of highly qualified young Muslims from the suburbs to prospective employers. Not one received an interview call. The same letters sent with Christian names and inner city addresses received very positive feedback. The suburbs are home to a large percentage of school drop-outs who take to drug dealing, petty crime or poorly paid jobs. Self-esteem is low and the lure of radical Islam, which gives them a feeling of self-worth, appears inevitable. The suburbs are vast derelict zones of run-down tenement blocks, inferior schools and brutal policing. Many young, semi-literate Muslims who are second or third generation French are radicalised either in prison, on the Internet or by fanatical Imams in local mosques. The Kouachi brothers are typical examples of this intellectual, cultural and economic poverty. Read more - http://www.hindustantimes.com/comment/analysis/the-values-of-the-enlightenment-must-prevail/article1-1305756.aspx Unless France makes efforts to integrate these 6 million people, there would definitely be more such incidents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 ^ Absolute rubbish. Its an insult to relate discontent of likes those 1800 People whose CVs were used with terrorist action. In worse case, couple among 1800 people may turn up to a life of petty crime. But thats about it. If anything those Muslims are actually against these terrorist and are likely to die as victims ( eg Ahmed Merabet killed in line of duty). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zep1706 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 If anything those Muslims are actually against these terrorist and are likely to die as victims ( eg Ahmed Merabet killed in line of duty). To be fair, him being a Muslim does not prove anything. He could have been of any religion and would have still died. In fact, I wonder if the terrorists knew he was a Muslim whether they would have still shot him dead! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 To be fair' date=' him being a Muslim does not prove anything. He could have been of any religion and would have still died. In fact, I wonder if the terrorists knew he was a Muslim whether they would have still shot him dead![/quote'] Are you suggesting that Ahmed Merabet would have not tried to defend general public just because terrorist were Muslims? Check the Nairobi Mall hostage crisis. It was Muslim policemen because of whom a lot of people survived. They genuinely faught terrorist risking their lives and saving several dozens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sachin=GOD Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 ^ Absolute rubbish. Its an insult to relate discontent of likes those 1800 People whose CVs were used with terrorist action. In worse case, couple among 1800 people may turn up to a life of petty crime. But thats about it. If anything those Muslims are actually against these terrorist and are likely to die as victims ( eg Ahmed Merabet killed in line of duty). Alienating or ignoring the muslims will only make the job of the extremists that much easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zep1706 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Are you suggesting that Ahmed Merabet would have not tried to defend general public just because terrorist were Muslims? Are you serious? How did you come to that conclusion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Alienating or ignoring them will only make the job of the extremists that much easier. What you see is what India probably faced wrt caste system some decades ago in getting into government institutions. But I am still to hear one SC/ST individual bombing and killing in scores. Terrorist do not get their inspiration or recruits because people are jobless/struggling to meet ends. A lot of them are young individuals in Uni from economically average background. They haven't even seen the world properly to make a informed decision. Whole Community, but particularly Muslim community as a whole is at fault by letting apologetics getaway with such reasoning(as in the article). Probably Muslim are even more scared than us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Are you serious? How did you come to that conclusion? If not then, alternatively he is as innocent as us, and has equal probability of dieing in a terrorist strike. hence on our side then terrorists Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guldozer Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asterix Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Agree... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalia_Test Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guldozer Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Where were you last month during the Peshawar attacks? Did you not see the outrage in Pakistan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalia_Test Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Where were you last month during the Peshawar attacks? Did you not see the outrage in Pakistan? ??? Pakistani muslims were killed and Pakistanis were outraged. Who denies it? Even India was outraged. What is your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guldozer Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 ??? Pakistani muslims were killed and Pakistanis were outraged. Who denies it? Even India was outraged. What is your point? Refer back to the cartoon you posted maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingravi Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Refer back to the cartoon you posted maybe? Ya referred. Still not sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhunaeh Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 This is mainly because of what europe did to the jews in the recent past. They carry a lot of baggage from that encounter. That's why you cannot go by dictionary definition of freedom of speech. You have to consider the context too. In case of france, it seems france sent a lot of jews to their death during world war 2 and french regime colloborated more than what was necessary with the germans. That's why they are so touchy about offending the jews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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