bulbul Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 How dare you insult BD batsman by calling someone else best batting line. BD has the most power hitting and they bat till no 12 ask any delusional BD fan. Don't talk about BD fans, they expect their team to win every world cup.
HippoSucks Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 First this guy' date=' then joe root and steven smith, in just an year our bowlers have produced 3 world class batters. credit to them.[/quote'] Smith was already in magnificent form before this series. Root just had a good series against us, but his performance isn't good enough to call him a world class batsman. So our bowling had little effect in changing their reputations. No one is calling Moenn Ali a magnificent spinner and Lyon already was the best spinner in the world at that time.
termination Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 Its a process sometimes our bowlers make average batsmen look great.Remember nasir jamshed,how he scored those centuries.Where is he know?
veer Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 SA team is freaking crazy.. Amla - the anchor FaF - Can be anchor or attack ABDV - less said the better.. Russow - where did he come from?? Miller - can go with attack Duminy - can be an anchor or attack And then those bowlers.. Steyn/Morkell.. (actually bowling is little bit weak if you compare to their batting fire power) SA vs Aus Final... Dude, that's going to be one hell of a battle. India needs to play way out of their skin if they want to beat these two teams.
Sonix768 Posted January 29, 2015 Posted January 29, 2015 Just give 220+ target for them in the knockout and see how this "BEST" batting line up performs.. They could even score 220 against NZ last time. And they choked against even England's bowling attach in Chepauk while chasing 172.
fineleg Posted January 29, 2015 Posted January 29, 2015 Dear veer, Dont worry abt India beating SA or Aus. India wont get to worry abt all that, I guarantee you Dhawan, Nohit, Raydu, Rahane, all bowlers will ensure that we come to India very soon.
Sonix768 Posted January 29, 2015 Posted January 29, 2015 Just checked the stats. Since Jan 2013, SA has chased a target of 250+ outside SA 8 times. In which they have won a grand total of ONE match (Against AUS in Harare chasing 328 last August). So the record is 1-7. (If you take outside Africa, the record is 0-6) In those 8 matches (including African continent) this is how the main batsmen (Amla, de Kock, de Villiers, Faf, Duminy, Miller) fared. # 1 - Against India in Cardiff chasing 332, June 2013. Result: SA Lost by 26 runs Amla 22 (15) ABDV 70 (71) Duminy 14 (24) du Plessis 30 (23) Miller 0(3) # 2 - Against Australia in Canberra chasing 330, Nov 2014. Result: SA Lost by 73 runs Amla 102 (115) de Kock 47 (53) du Plessis 17 (21) ABDV 52 (34) Miller 3 (6) #3 - Against Australia in Harare chasing 328, Aug 2014. Result: SA Win by 7 wickets Amla 24 (29) de Kock 19 (18) du Plessis 106 (98) ABDV 136* (106) Duminy 33* (29) #4 - Against SL in Colombo chasing 321, Jul 2013. Result: SA Lost by 180 runs du Plessis 4 (12) ABDV 23 (19) Duminy 15 (22) Miller 14 (22) #5 - Against SL in Colombo chasing 308, Jul 2013. Result: SA Lost by 128 runs Amla 18 (28) de Kock 27 (21) Duminy 15 (14) du Plessis 6 (13) ABDV 51 (51) Miller 0 (2) #6 - Against Australia in Perth chasing 301, Nov 2014. Result: SA Lost by 32 runs Amla 8 (13) de Kock 2 (7) du Plessis 31 (43) ABDV 80 (76) Miller 65 (65) #7 - Against Australia in Harare chasing 283, Sep 2014. Result: SA Lost by 62 runs Amla 17 (28) de Kock 1 (5) du Plessis 126 (109) ABDV 6 (19) Duminy 16 (32) Miller 3 (5) #8 - Against SL in Pallekele chasing 268, Jul 2014. Result: SA Lost by 87 runs Amla 101 (102) de Kock 4 (6) ABDV 29 (41) Duminy 1 (4) Miller 4 (8) Overall Figures: Players.....Inn.....Runs.....Average.....S/R.....100/50.....Verdict.....>40/<20 inn Amla.....7.....292.....41.71.....88.48.....2/0.....Good.....2/3 de ****.....6.....100.....16.67.....90.90.....0/0.....Bad.....1/4 du Plessis.....7.....320.....45.71.....100.31.....2/0.....Good.....2/3 ABDV.....8.....447.....63.85.....107.91.....1/4.....AWESOME!.....5/1 Duminy.....6.....94.....18.80.....75.20.....0/0.....Very Bad.....0/5 Miller.....7.....89.....12.71.....80.18.....0/1.....Very Bad.....1/6 So here it is.. ABDV is as awesome as ever. Faf has done well. Amla also good but not a "BEST Ever" material. Then there is the over hyped de Kock and Miller. Both had only one good innings with Miller failing in every other innings. Duminy is worse. Didn't even contribute once. So if you set 250 target against SA, it pretty much a victory in this WC. BUT, how easy it is to score 250+ against Steyn, Morkel, Tahir outside SA? That I'll check another day.
MCGGG Posted January 29, 2015 Posted January 29, 2015 SA team is freaking crazy.. Amla - the anchor FaF - Can be anchor or attack ABDV - less said the better.. Russow - where did he come from?? Miller - can go with attack Duminy - can be an anchor or attack And then those bowlers.. Steyn/Morkell.. (actually bowling is little bit weak if you compare to their batting fire power) SA vs Aus Final... Dude, that's going to be one hell of a battle. India needs to play way out of their skin if they want to beat these two teams. Australia spanked them in both formats in SA, SA will be pushing **** uphill to beat the Aussies in Australia. Overall Australia has to much firepower IMO, they have heavy hitters all the way to 10.
govinda Posted January 29, 2015 Posted January 29, 2015 Australia spanked them in both formats in SA, SA will be pushing **** uphill to beat the Aussies in Australia. Overall Australia has to much firepower IMO, they have heavy hitters all the way to 1yes aus bat deep
veer Posted January 29, 2015 Posted January 29, 2015 Australia spanked them in both formats in SA' date=' SA will be pushing **** uphill to beat the Aussies in Australia. Overall Australia has to much firepower IMO, they have heavy hitters all the way to 10.[/quote'] Australia is all round team except an established batsman who can anchor an inning. You are right.. they have fire power from top to bottom.. but, in case, Aus loose too many wickets early in the inning, there is no one to anchor an inning, except may be Smith.. I can see them posting below par score in that scenario against a good bowling line up. Only SA or NZ can beat them.. SA cuz the reason i said above and NZ cuz they punch above their weight when they play against you (Ozzies). And i feel this time chasing team will have little bit of advantage in knowing 'how much to attack and when to attack'.. Plus this time Ozzies play in their home so added pressure in knock outs can be a big factor. Lets see.. there is still a month and half to go.
HippoSucks Posted January 30, 2015 Posted January 30, 2015 Australia is all round team except an established batsman who can anchor an inning. You are right.. they have fire power from top to bottom.. but, in case, Aus loose too many wickets early in the inning, there is no one to anchor an inning, except may be Smith.. I can see them posting below par score in that scenario against a good bowling line up. Only SA or NZ can beat them.. SA cuz the reason i said above and NZ cuz they punch above their weight when they play against you (Ozzies). And i feel this time chasing team will have little bit of advantage in knowing 'how much to attack and when to attack'.. Plus this time Ozzies play in their home so added pressure in knock outs can be a big factor. Lets see.. there is still a month and half to go. No one who can anchor an innings? Warner and Finch can win a 250-run chase by themselves. And then you have Smith and Clarke...
BeautifulGame Posted January 30, 2015 Posted January 30, 2015 Australia is all round team except an established batsman who can anchor an inning. You are right.. they have fire power from top to bottom.. but, in case, Aus loose too many wickets early in the inning, there is no one to anchor an inning, except may be Smith.. I can see them posting below par score in that scenario against a good bowling line up. Only SA or NZ can beat them.. SA cuz the reason i said above and NZ cuz they punch above their weight when they play against you (Ozzies). And i feel this time chasing team will have little bit of advantage in knowing 'how much to attack and when to attack'.. Plus this time Ozzies play in their home so added pressure in knock outs can be a big factor. Lets see.. there is still a month and half to go. The thing that most likely can undo them is their relying on too many average all rounders like Watson Faulkner Maxwell .Only playing 2 bowlers will always expose them against strong batting line ups. So far their batting depth have saved them but in knock outs under pressure will be much harder They also play QF in Adelaide Semi in Sydney and Final in MCG if qualify .All should aid spinners in the latter stages .And they have the worst spinners and r the worst players of spin if it turns And of course the pressure of world cup at home
HippoSucks Posted January 30, 2015 Posted January 30, 2015 The thing that most likely can undo them is their relying on too many average all rounders like Watson Faulkner Maxwell .Only playing 2 bowlers will always expose them against strong batting line ups. So far their batting depth have saved them but in knock outs under pressure will be much harder They also play QF in Adelaide Semi in Sydney and Final in MCG if qualify .All should aid spinners in the latter stages .And they have the worst spinners and r the worst players of spin if it turns And of course the pressure of world cup at home Hopefully they will run 3 specialist pacers most of the time (Starc, Johnson and Hazlewood/Cummins).
bulbul Posted January 30, 2015 Posted January 30, 2015 The thing that most likely can undo them is their relying on too many average all rounders like Watson Faulkner Maxwell .Only playing 2 bowlers will always expose them against strong batting line ups. So far their batting depth have saved them but in knock outs under pressure will be much harder They also play QF in Adelaide Semi in Sydney and Final in MCG if qualify .All should aid spinners in the latter stages .And they have the worst spinners and r the worst players of spin if it turns And of course the pressure of world cup at home There are no big batting line ups except SA & India. We don't have good bowling lineup & SA always afraid of OZ in WC.
vvvslaxman Posted January 30, 2015 Author Posted January 30, 2015 There are no big batting line ups except SA & India. We don't have good bowling lineup & SA always afraid of OZ SA in WC. corrected
vvvslaxman Posted February 22, 2015 Author Posted February 22, 2015 our nemesis returns alright BACK TO THE PAVILION :yay:
BeautifulGame Posted February 22, 2015 Posted February 22, 2015 There are no big batting line ups except SA & India. We don't have good bowling lineup & SA always afraid of OZ in WC. Nzl batting is stronger than SA. And WI batting is bit underrated as well for me
helperononline Posted February 22, 2015 Posted February 22, 2015 he lost his patience after umesh hit him badly
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