When Nepal was groaning in earthquake, Christian Missionaries were shamelessly selling Jesus

[gs]

Its secular conversion, so all iz well.

[urbestfriend]

Is this the view of all christian missionaries or some low lives tweeting this rubbish? Hope people are not generalizing some loony elements action on all christian missionaries.

[coffee_rules]

does it matter where relief comes from for the suffering? They will be happy with whatever concern they get. As far as the source of relief, whatever rocks their boat!

[hhunaeh]

Is this the view of all christian missionaries or some low lives tweeting this rubbish? Hope people are not generalizing some loony elements action on all christian missionaries.

They are many who are convinced their way is the only way to god and that they are saving others and sending them to heaven by converting them. They believe they are doing you a favor and helping you out. I am sure not all the christian missionaries think the same, but if you search for them on the net you will find plenty.

[Gollum]

http://www.hinduhumanrights.info/nepal-earthquake-us-pastor-tony-miano-sparks-outcry-by-suggesting-nepalis-should-not-rebuild-their-pagan-shrines/ Nepal earthquake: US Pastor Tony Miano sparks outcry by suggesting Nepalis should not rebuild their ‘pagan shrines’ A former Los Angeles police officer and self-styled preacher, has sparked outcry by suggesting that Nepalis should not rebuild their “pagan shrines” and instead convert to Christianity. Tony Miano, an outspoken conservative who has previously been accused of homophobia, triggered angry responses when he posted a series of messages on social media, expressing sympathy for the people struck by devastation in Nepal, but suggesting God was angry. Good on NewsX for shaming this guy

[Texan]

True that there are some dimwits, but these are the exception and not the rule. Having been in and around many Christians for the most part of my life, I haven't found or experienced any of these radical elements myself. Most of them are very accommodating of all religions.

[jalebi_bhai]

Is this the view of all christian missionaries or some low lives tweeting this rubbish? Hope people are not generalizing some loony elements action on all christian missionaries.

From my knowledge and experience, the current day missionary rabble-rousers are the Baptist and Evangelical Churches, Christian fundamentalists from the US (blessings from both Democrats and Republicans). Vatican based missionaries were at their peak during Mother Teresa's time. They are now competing with these US guys but in the interim, their interests lie in backing each other. Most of the damage has been done in the North East (Nagaland especially, there are Christian militants), Andhra (groundwork was done during YSR's time) and Tamil Nadu. I can assure you that it's a large racket, involving the complicity of NGOs, local politicians (overwhelmingly secular politicians) and foreign missionary franchises. They use tragedies as an alibi to set up base and then slowly start altering the local demographics. In the backward areas, politicians loot while allowing missionaries to carry out their cultural genocide. The missionaries build some basic infrastructure to earn the locals' trust. They then ask people to start recruiting more people to their church. To return the politician's favor, the missionaries ask people to vote for the politicians. Minorities tend to vote in blocks. Quid pro quo all around it would seem. You can ask then, why should the incumbent RW govt. clamp down on missionaries if they are genuinely providing some sort of aid to the people? Here's the thing, the core motive of starting such missions is to serve as either a proxy for influencing state policy (Mother Teresa's main aim was to have abortion banned in India) or for procuring local resources like in Africa. In India, the Churches are the largest owners of land, outside govt. bodies. NGOs mainly function to stall developmental projects at the behest of foreign organizations and they work together with missionaries. In all this, there are NGOs that genuinely help without any ulterior motives. But an overwhelmingly large amount of the foreign NGOs are nothing but con-artists. With regards to missionaries, I would recommend a book called 'Of Water And the Spirit' by Malidoma Some. He's a West African author who shares his life experiences in the book. The first half of his book focuses on his experience with missionaries. Very eye opening. Guns, Germs and Steel by Jared Diamond is another good read. In the context of India, let me put it this way, Hilary Clinton, as secretary of state, was very 'supportive' of NGOs and missionaries in India. She is running for US presidency. She is also very good friends with Sonia G. Recently, Modi govt. has been clamping down on foreign funded NGOs and missionaries. This has coincided with the so called 'attacks' on Christianity in different parts of the country.

[Pagalpanti]

I can never wrap my head around this numbers game these religious nuts are after. I mean wtf is wrong with 'em? Why force convert people.. who cares if some religion has more people than others..

[Gollum]

True that there are some dimwits' date=' but these are the exception and not the rule. Having been in and around many Christians for the most part of my life, I haven't found or experienced any of these radical elements myself. Most of them are very accommodating of all religions.[/quote'] Maybe in your region it isn't an issue but in coastal Andhra(courtesy YSR) and Southern TN the demographics have swung crazily. In some districts in these states Hindu population has dropped from 80-90% to 30-40% in a timespan of 20-25 years.

[Gollum]

From my knowledge and experience, the current day missionary rabble-rousers are the Baptist and Evangelical Churches, Christian fundamentalists from the US (blessings from both Democrats and Republicans). Vatican based missionaries were at their peak during Mother Teresa's time. They are now competing with these US guys but in the interim, their interests lie in backing each other. Most of the damage has been done in the North East (Nagaland especially, there are Christian militants), Andhra (groundwork was done during YSR's time) and Tamil Nadu. I can assure you that it's a large racket, involving the complicity of NGOs, local politicians (overwhelmingly secular politicians) and foreign missionary franchises. They use tragedies as an alibi to set up base and then slowly start altering the local demographics. In the backward areas, politicians loot while allowing missionaries to carry out their cultural genocide. The missionaries build some basic infrastructure to earn the locals' trust. They then ask people to start recruiting more people to their church. To return the politician's favor, the missionaries ask people to vote for the politicians. Minorities tend to vote in blocks. Quid pro quo all around it would seem. You can ask then, why should the incumbent RW govt. clamp down on missionaries if they are genuinely providing some sort of aid to the people? Here's the thing, the core motive of starting such missions is to serve as either a proxy for influencing state policy (Mother Teresa's main aim was to have abortion banned in India) or for procuring local resources like in Africa. In India, the Churches are the largest owners of land, outside govt. bodies. NGOs mainly function to stall developmental projects at the behest of foreign organizations and they work together with missionaries. In all this, there are NGOs that genuinely help without any ulterior motives. But an overwhelmingly large amount of the foreign NGOs are nothing but con-artists. With regards to missionaries, I would recommend a book called 'Of Water And the Spirit' by Malidoma Some. He's a West African author who shares his life experiences in the book. The first half of his book focuses on his experience with missionaries. Very eye opening. Guns, Germs and Steel by Jared Diamond is another good read. In the context of India, let me put it this way, Hilary Clinton, as secretary of state, was very 'supportive' of NGOs and missionaries in India. She is running for US presidency. She is also very good friends with Sonia G. Recently, Modi govt. has been clamping down on foreign funded NGOs and missionaries. This has coincided with the so called 'attacks' on Christianity in different parts of the country.

POTW, in fact the best post in chit chat section ever. Kudos :hatsoff:

[jalebi_bhai]

True that there are some dimwits' date=' but these are the exception and not the rule. Having been in and around many Christians for the most part of my life, I haven't found or experienced any of these radical elements myself. Most of them are very accommodating of all religions.[/quote'] Christians on the Western Coast of India, namely Catholics of Goa, Karnataka, Kerala and Maharashtra are descendants of Gaud Saraswat Brahmins, who migrated south from the Indus Valley after the Saraswati dried up. They converted to Catholicism, as part of cultural exchange, with the arrival and settlement of the Portugese though they retained their Hindu practices. The similarities are evident even today in cultural ceremonies. These groups of Christians, to which my family belongs to, are largely moderate. Our treachery doesn't extend to beyond supporting Congress (not me, I'm communal) :haha: Even that is changing now. The trouble makers are those who set up shop in tribal areas and start harvesting Dalit souls. These kinds are a brand of Neo-missionaries who try to carry out all sorts of non-sense. Proper scamsters. They pollute people's minds' with filth against their own culture.

[Gollum]

[jalebi_bhai]

I can never wrap my head around this numbers game these religious nuts are after. I mean wtf is wrong with 'em? Why force convert people.. who cares if some religion has more people than others..

History shall give you your answers.

[jalebi_bhai]

POTW' date=' in fact the best post in chit chat section ever. Kudos :hatsoff:[/quote'] Thanks. It is nothing ground breaking though, all info is available in the public domain.

[AmreekanDesi]

Funny.. I took a Lyft (Its like Uber) the other day to get from my home to college This random white guy seemed very well versed with foreign culture and was very familiar with Asia. Upon further talking I discovered that he had stayed in Nagaland for seven years as an Evangelical missionary in the late 80s and 90s Funny thing is that at the start he didnt mention India but talked about Nagaland as if it was some independent country. And the way he pronounced it with his wierd rural Pennsylvanian accent, I didnt catch on that he was talking abt one of our states located next to Assam. Anyways the tone he had was as if he thought that people there were savages and he and hs people were civilizing them. Talked about things like roads, and round abouts and how driving can sometimes be a free for all. How he and his buddies helped construct some town buildings and whatnot. Anyways I didnt like the guys tone. And later on in the night I googled and read about everything that has been happening there and how these evangelical missionaries are taking advantage of the poverty of people there and selling Jesus as a savior. I quickly forgot abt it the next days but was reminded of this strange experience again by this thread.

[sensible-indian]

The way he said it was funny. :hysterical:

[sensible-indian]

Can someone explain what are the effects of religious demographic change in an area apart from voting patterns? I have a basic idea but would love to hear about it from anyone who has a deep understanding of it.

[sensible-indian]

Thanks. It is nothing ground breaking though' date=' all info is available in the public domain.[/quote'] Still.....its a very insightful post. One qeustion: Why would they do that? I mean why would any organization spend money to stall some random development project in a no name place in an Indian state?

[amiret]

True that there are some dimwits' date=' [b']but these are the exception and not the rule. Having been in and around many Christians for the most part of my life, I haven't found or experienced any of these radical elements myself. Most of them are very accommodating of all religions.

:clap:

[amiret]

Anyways I didnt like the guys tone. And later on in the night I googled and read about everything that has been happening there and how these evangelical missionaries are taking advantage of the poverty of people there and selling Jesus as a savior.

We must trust the poor to make choices for themselves and choose whatever religious product they want. Or are we not ready to accord them this freedom ?