nic007 Posted May 13, 2015 Posted May 13, 2015 Steyn plays fewer and fewer ODI's these days anyway as this will prolong his test career. I do however think he has been a bit naughty saying that he is withdrawing because it is only Bangladesh. Truth of the matter is that he has been playing relatively few ODI's and will go on with this trend in future (against any other side). A bit of a PR disaster.
HippoSucks Posted May 13, 2015 Posted May 13, 2015 http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/35263.html?class=1;filter=advanced;home_or_away=2;opposition=1;opposition=2;opposition=3;opposition=5;orderby=default;template=results;type=batting The numbers beg to differ. Averages 16 more at home than in countries where the ball tends to do a bit. Even Tamim Iqbal averages more in those places. http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/56194.html?class=1;filter=advanced;home_or_away=2;opposition=1;opposition=3;opposition=5;orderby=default;template=results;type=batting And Tamim has played a grand total of 7 matches in those countries. How can you even compare the two averages if one of them have such a small sample set, and the other is one of the most destructive cricketers of all time?
Gollum Posted May 13, 2015 Posted May 13, 2015 Next month ay toder nunu kete musolmani kore dibo How is this guy not banned?
swatpulla Posted May 13, 2015 Posted May 13, 2015 How is this guy not banned? What does that translate to?
Austin 3:!6 Posted May 13, 2015 Posted May 13, 2015 Seriously Bengali fans are now getting boring. I have always said this and continue to believe that BD cannot play cricket. Its as simple as that. Not sure why fans get so emotional. That stats posted in post #44 reveal everything. They might be winning few games in home but that dosen't mean anything. To become in the league of big teams they need to do it consistenly and more importantly away from home. So fans, wake us up wen ur team do something significant. Beating a depleted England in world cup means nothing wen in the same tournament Ireland beats you. Read my lips, Bangladesh will never be a good team because they simply do not know how to play cricket.
Kriterion Posted May 13, 2015 Posted May 13, 2015 And Tamim has played a grand total of 7 matches in those countries. How can you even compare the two averages if one of them have such a small sample set' date=' and the other is one of the most destructive cricketers of all time?[/quote'] You do realize that a single duck in a small sample size will decrease his average more than the same number of ducks in Sehwag's sample right?
Lannister Posted May 13, 2015 Posted May 13, 2015 Even with all the support BD's getting (unlike Zimbos), they still haven't able to establish themselves as a competitive team. That says a lot about the quality of the cricket they are playing. Indeed, a minnow.
TheWall Posted May 13, 2015 Posted May 13, 2015 Forget Steyn, they could not face Bangalore Bullet Train Binny....:hysterical::hysterical:
Precambrian Posted May 13, 2015 Posted May 13, 2015 You do realize that a single duck in a small sample size will decrease his average more than the same number of ducks in Sehwag's sample right? Essentially you are only supporting his argument. Yes, so a small sample set kind of reduces it's reliance to make any conclusion.
govinda Posted May 13, 2015 Posted May 13, 2015 Forget Steyn' date=' they could not face Bangalore Bullet Train Binny....:hysterical::hysterical:[/quote'] :hysterical::hysterical::hysterical:
Kriterion Posted May 13, 2015 Posted May 13, 2015 Essentially you are only supporting his argument. Yes, so a small sample set kind of reduces it's reliance to make any conclusion. Not really. In a small sample size a single poor score or good score can equally affect the average. In other words, a small sample size isn't a guarantee of a good average.
vvvslaxman Posted May 13, 2015 Posted May 13, 2015 http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/35263.html?class=1;filter=advanced;home_or_away=2;opposition=1;opposition=2;opposition=3;opposition=5;orderby=default;template=results;type=batting The numbers beg to differ. Averages 16 more at home than in countries where the ball tends to do a bit. Even Tamim Iqbal averages more in those places. http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/56194.html?class=1;filter=advanced;home_or_away=2;opposition=1;opposition=3;opposition=5;orderby=default;template=results;type=batting Grand total of 2 tests in England, 4 in NZ :cantstop: Seriously you wonder why nobody bothers about BD cricket. You left out Australia . In one of the tour where Viru toured the pitches were drop in pitches where scoring 150 was a big ask. Tamim is not qualified to tie shoe laces of Viru. He is more like Steve Tikolo. That's about it.
G_B_ Posted May 13, 2015 Posted May 13, 2015 Grand total of 2 tests in England' date=' 4 in NZ :cantstop: Seriously you wonder why nobody bothers about BD cricket. You left out Australia . In one of the tour where Viru toured the pitches were drop in pitches where scoring 150 was a big ask. Tamim is not qualified to tie shoe laces of Viru. He is more like Steve Tikolo. That's about it.[/quote'] Steve tikolo was a legend.
vvvslaxman Posted May 13, 2015 Posted May 13, 2015 Steve tikolo was a legend. Yup. It is natural nobody plays against minnows with intensity. So one hack or the other will make it count from time to time.
Kriterion Posted May 13, 2015 Posted May 13, 2015 Grand total of 2 tests in England' date=' 4 in NZ :cantstop: Seriously you wonder why nobody bothers about BD cricket. You left out Australia . In one of the tour where Viru toured the pitches were drop in pitches where scoring 150 was a big ask. Tamim is not qualified to tie shoe laces of Viru. He is more like Steve Tikolo. That's about it.[/quote'] Australia is in there. If I had left Australia out, Sehwag would have averaged about 20. As for Tamim only playing 2 tests in England and 4 in NZ...what law of statistics guarantees a good average given only a handful of stats. I'm not aware of any. I don't wonder why no one "bothers" about BD cricket...we are the 9th ranked side, we're crap...I don't deny that. I haven't forgotten to get my haldol refilled. I'm not Indian.
HippoSucks Posted May 13, 2015 Posted May 13, 2015 You do realize that a single duck in a small sample size will decrease his average more than the same number of ducks in Sehwag's sample right? And one fifty can also boost the average immensely if the sample size is so low. Not really. In a small sample size a single poor score or good score can equally affect the average. In other words, a small sample size isn't a guarantee of a good average. But it isn't reflective of a true average either, and a higher average means very little without context. For example, Monimal averages 60 from 14 test matches, which is the 5th highest test average of all time. Does that mean he is the 5th greatest test batsman of all time, just because of his average?
Kriterion Posted May 13, 2015 Posted May 13, 2015 And one fifty can also boost the average immensely if the sample size is so low. But what guarantee is there that if I only bat in 2 innings, I am sure to get at least 1 fifty? And who gives that guarantee? And if it doesn't happen, who compensates and how much is the compensation? See my point? But it isn't reflective of a true average either, and a higher average means very little without context. For example, Monimal averages 60 from 14 test matches, which is the 5th highest test average of all time. Does that mean he is the 5th greatest test batsman of all time, just because of his average? Of course Mominul is not the 5th greatest batsman of all time...who said he was? But suppose Mominul averaged 25 after 14 tests...everyone would say he's just another 25 average BD batsmann like Ashraful. Right?
HippoSucks Posted May 13, 2015 Posted May 13, 2015 But what guarantee is there that if I only bat in 2 innings, I am sure to get at least 1 fifty? And who gives that guarantee? And if it doesn't happen, who compensates and how much is the compensation? See my point? Of course Mominul is not the 5th greatest batsman of all time...who said he was? But suppose Mominul averaged 25 after 14 tests...everyone would say he's just another 25 average BD batsmann like Ashraful. Right? There is no guarantee of anything. But even if he has 5 ducks in those 7 matches, you can't use that to extrapolate. What I'm saying is that you can't just look at averages without context. If Tamim is a better overseas player than Sehwag just because of a higher average over 7 tests, why isn't Mominul the 5th greatest test batsman since he has the 5th highest average?
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