asterix Posted June 11, 2015 Posted June 11, 2015 Is Ben ki lo di sagarika ki problem kya hai pardon my language' date=' she is so anti, bytch can't appreciate anything good.[/quote'] Can't stand her.... But she's right.... There was no need to chest thump.... Imagine, there's a big attack by Pak supported terrorist in the Western border... If Indian forces don't reciprocate with similar operation and not publicise it, the media will have a field day... Covert operations are kept covert... Things get revealed after a long time, if at there's a need to reveal...
Clarke Posted June 11, 2015 Posted June 11, 2015 I don't see it as chest thumping, its sending out a message that we mean business.
BeautifulGame Posted June 11, 2015 Posted June 11, 2015 Myanmar cross-border strike: Army and Government don’t rule out more such operations A day after the Army carried out strikes across the Myanmar border at militant groups suspected to be behind the June 4 attack on the Army convoy, sources said today that more such operations could not be ruled out given the “scale” of the Northeast militant infrastructure across the border. Sources said there are an estimated 20 camps which are likely targets. Officials also maintained ambiguity over the Tuesday operation saying “all is not over”. National Security Advisor Ajit Doval is expected to visit Myanmar soon to discuss further “joint action” against the insurgents. Indian Ambassador to Myanmar Gautam Mukhopadhaya today reviewed*the post-operation situation with senior officials of the Myanmar government in the capital Nay Pyi Taw. Foreign Secretary S Jaishankar had visited Myanmar unannounced on May 22 ahead of fighting breaking out with the NSCN (K) to firm up cross-border security cooperation plans. Officials said his visit was not related to yesterday’s operations. In details that have now begun to emerge, sources said that at least 20 militants were killed and 11 “seriously injured” in the operations that were carried out by commandos “on foot”. Interestingly, the “men” picked up for the operation were ones with “North-Eastern features” so that they could blend in. The operation was led by 21 Special Forces (Para), an elite para-commando unit of the Indian Army. Sources said that though India’s intention to stage retaliatory strikes was shared with Myanmar days ahead of the attack, data on specific targets was “neither asked for nor given.” Some of the militants killed could have been involved in the last Thursday’s ambush in Chandel which killed 18 soldiers of the Dogra unit. Sources said that one team of 21 Special Forces, based at Leimakhong, slithered down from two Advanced Light helicopters onto militat camps in Myanmar territory. Although these camps were identified targets, their location was confirmed by UAV missions carried out from Imphal. At least three UAV missions were conducted every week and latest images were compared with previous ones to confirm that the camps were still occupied. Sources said that these camps are not very deep in Myanmar territory. They lie close to a prominent local commercial route between India and Myanmar, allowing the militants to extort money from traders. Thoubal-based 2 Assam Rifles and Moreh-based 11 Assam Rifles were used in a supporting ground role for the operation. The SF personnel used portable rockets and grenades. Sources said that an additional team of 21 SF has been mobilised in Dimapur and is being inducted into the India-Myanmar border. Assam Rifles units on India-Myanmar border in Chandel and adjoining districts are on high alert to monitor any suspicious movement of militants who have been scattered after Wednesday’s operation. The Army is also wary of any retaliatory attacks being planned by NSCN (K). The local Assam Rifles units have been working closely with the Manipur civilian administration to convince the local population that they will not be inconvenienced or harassed by these operations, this being the harvesting season. Meanwhile, NSCN (K) has contested the Army’s claim in handouts sent to the local media in which it rejected the reports of cross-border operation as “false” and alleged that these were efforts by the Indian Army to “salvage their reputation”. The Myanmar government has confirmed that Indian soldiers had entered their country on Wednesday. Zaw Htay, director of the office of Myanmar President Thein Sein was quoted in The Wall Street Journal as saying that there was “coordination and cooperation” between the Indian troops and Myanmar’s armed forces but added that no Myanmar soldiers were directly involved. “We will never allow or support insurgents, whether (they are) against Myanmar or against our neighbouring countries,” Zaw Htay is quoted as saying. Interestingly, the Army did not deny — or confirm — many versions of the operation on social media all through the day including cropped, pixilated photographs of purported soldiers who conducted the operations http://indianexpress.com/article/india/india-others/army-and-govt-signal-watch-this-space/ More operations to follow .Hopefully we weed out the North east terror issue once and for all.
adi B Posted June 11, 2015 Posted June 11, 2015 Pakistan government rattled ,passes a resolution against india :hysterical:
hhunaeh Posted June 11, 2015 Posted June 11, 2015 Neighbours aren't stupid. They have started to work on selling a story on how India has turned into an aggressor and they are the innocent victims, even though nothing much has changed from india wrt pakistan. They will use this card sometime in the future, india better watch out.
swatpulla Posted June 11, 2015 Posted June 11, 2015 I used to support Pakistan series and all, but now I am quite sure about the fact that I would never want to see our players playing against that country. Not only that, I am all for cutting off all economic and political ties with that disgrace of a nation.
Sachin=GOD Posted June 11, 2015 Posted June 11, 2015 I don't see it as chest thumping' date=' its sending out a message that we mean business.[/quote'] As I said earlier, the fact that the Indian army, backed by the Govt, carried out such an operation successfully is message enough for those who need such a message. There is no need for Govt ministers to further provoke Pak.
Khalpat Posted June 11, 2015 Posted June 11, 2015 As I said earlier' date=' the fact that the Indian army, backed by the Govt, carried out such an operation successfully is message enough for those who need such a message. There is no need for Govt ministers to further provoke Pak.[/quote'] I agree. One press conference from Army and one small press conference from Home Ministry would have been sufficient. there is no need of Rathore going to every channel and taking question on this and niether any BJP spokesperson should be saying any thing on this topic. There is already public support no need of going overboard.
amiret Posted June 11, 2015 Posted June 11, 2015 Govt propagandists and Cheergirls have got an opportunity to Bask in reflected glory , why should they waste this opportunity ? Well done Rathore . Perhaps you should leak more pics of the operation .:facepalm: Mission pictures on the Net blunder: SF veteran Revealing the identity of commandos on social networking sites is a big blunder," Colonel Pathak said. "No professional army in the world would commit such a mistake. Damage has been done and an inquiry has to be conducted." The 77-year-old veteran participated in Operation 'Mandhol,' among the first commando raids executed by special forces during the 1971 Indo-Pak war, and has the rare distinction of raising Special Security Group (SSG) and a special unit called `Hijack Busters' of the NSG. LINK
rkt.india Posted June 11, 2015 Posted June 11, 2015 where are the pictures? how would Rathore get them? Was he at the front?
Khalpat Posted June 11, 2015 Posted June 11, 2015 Govt propagandists and Cheergirls have got an opportunity to Bask in reflected glory , why should they waste this opportunity ? Well done Rathore . Perhaps you should leak more pics of the operation .:facepalm: Mission pictures on the Net blunder: SF veteran LINK What is your opinion on the mission? Haven't heard any saddist or pessimist thing related to this news so if you can pull out some quotes from Anti - Govt columnists to prove how this was a blunder. Just to have a balance in debate.
Khalpat Posted June 11, 2015 Posted June 11, 2015 where are the pictures? how would Rathore get them? Was he at the front? He somehow has to drag Modi and his ministers man how can everybody just praise the government when Modi is secretly planning against tomar, the messiah.
amiret Posted June 11, 2015 Posted June 11, 2015 where are the pictures? how would Rathore get them? Was he at the front? The pics have been published in different publications. MoD has issued a clarification that they have not leaked any photos. ANI (Asian-News International & Govt approved stenographers) later proceeded to blur the images of the commandos to prevent identification CHANDIGARH: One of the founders of India's special forces, Colonel K D Pathak (retd) is proud the Army hit insurgent camps in Myanmar after they killed 18 Indian soldiers. But he strongly disapproves of photographs of the soldiers from the unit that carried out the surgical strike going viral on social media.
Crookbond Posted June 11, 2015 Posted June 11, 2015 I agree. One press conference from Army and one small press conference from Home Ministry would have been sufficient. there is no need of Rathore going to every channel and taking question on this and niether any BJP spokesperson should be saying any thing on this topic. There is already public support no need of going overboard. The whole point was to create an image with Rathore playing up the PR - it helps the "rashtravadi" image along with hashtags like #56inchrocks. The MOS Defense has already denied of any "hot pursuit". ANI rehashed photographs from 2009 and passed of as 2015 operation pictures. This is NOT the first time Indian armed forces have struck on foreign soil along Indian borders. It goes as far as 1995 (Operation Golden Bird) and 2006 by s!ckular governments in countries like Myanmar and Bhutan. http://www.oneindia.com/india/operations-all-clear-and-golden-bird-indias-past-operations-on-foreign-soil-1773008.html The Indian army did their job, the government like an archetypal attention seeking ***** via Rathore try to lap up the credit. Not only has it caused a diplomacy wrinkle but also but a sour taste on our co-operating neighbours. Here's 56 fingers to more chest thumping. :thefinger:
rkt.india Posted June 11, 2015 Posted June 11, 2015 The pics have been published in different publications. MoD has issued a clarification that they have not leaked any photos. ANI (Asian-News International & Govt approved stenographers) later proceeded to blur the images of the commandos to prevent identification so are you confident that those pictures are real?
rkt.india Posted June 11, 2015 Posted June 11, 2015 The whole point was to create an image with Rathore playing up the PR - it helps the "rashtravadi" image along with hashtags like #56inchrocks. This is NOT the first time Indian armed forces have struck on foreign soil along Indian borders. It goes as far as 1995 (Operation Golden Bird) and 2006 by s!ckular governments in countries like Myanmar and Bhutan. http://www.oneindia.com/india/operations-all-clear-and-golden-bird-indias-past-operations-on-foreign-soil-1773008.html Bhutan, it was 2003.
Sachin=GOD Posted June 11, 2015 Posted June 11, 2015 BREAKING: Govt sounds high-security alert across North-East after reports that NSCN-K militants have entered India for revenge attack: PTI
Crookbond Posted June 11, 2015 Posted June 11, 2015 Bhutan' date=' it was 2003.[/quote'] Haan bhai Bhutan was 2003 but previous governments did not chest thump - that was the point; focus on the central talking point rather than getting drowned in details.
Khalpat Posted June 11, 2015 Posted June 11, 2015 Haan bhai Bhutan was 2003 but previous governments did not chest thump - that was the point; focus on the central talking point rather than getting drowned in details. I think Bhutan was totally a different case. The prince of Bhutan himself was leading the front if I remember correctly and it was mostly done by Bhutani army, this operation is unique because Myanmar army was not involved.
rkt.india Posted June 11, 2015 Posted June 11, 2015 Haan bhai Bhutan was 2003 but previous governments did not chest thump - that was the point; focus on the central talking point rather than getting drowned in details. but this is the first time that an Indian govt has openly accepted and also expressed their stance on such operations and it is a no mean feat. It is a significant step.
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