Rohit Sharma Appreciation Squad

[express bowling]

1 hour ago, rkt.india said:

Biggest disappointment of this World T20. He was unstoppable in Australia and now he is struggling to time the ball.

Rohit is good on pitches which have decent pace and bounce, like Australia.

He almost always has problems on slow pitches, like what we are getting in the WT20.

[Number]

There was a spoof article that BCCI has purchased an expensive technology using which Kohli is making runs by using Rohit's talent. 

[rkt.india]

54 minutes ago, express bowling said:

Rohit is good on pitches which have decent pace and bounce, like Australia.

He almost always has problems on slow pitches, like what we are getting in the WT20.

but he has scored runs on slow, 2 paced WI pitches.

[CoverDrive]

No one is asking for big scores. Just play useful knocks. If not able to hit then bide time and take singles. hit out against spinners and contribute something.

[express bowling]

16 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

but he has scored runs on slow, 2 paced WI pitches.

That is more the exception than the norm.

Rohit is a batsman with many limitations.

He is a beast on  flat pitches with true bounce...better than most other batsmen but fails most of the times on other types of pitches.

Luckily for him, we get flat pitches in LOIs most of tthe times now and the Asia Cup and WT20 pitches are more of aberrations.

[Ankit_sharma03]

1 hour ago, rkt.india said:

but he has scored runs on slow, 2 paced WI pitches.

He scored but not much around 40-50 most times, and the thing with wi is they as a bowling unit they lack discipline so if u grind hard ull get some runs and there also he didnt convert it into a big one despite many starts.

Yes on flat decks he is a beast. Ball coming on bat nicely no lateral movemnt be it spin or swing. 

[Ankit_sharma03]

1 hour ago, CoverDrive said:

No one is asking for big scores. Just play useful knocks. If not able to hit then bide time and take singles. hit out against spinners and contribute something.

Xactly even if u dnt score big give a fast start. Either Dont waste balls or Dnt throw ur wkt after spending time on wkt.

[rkt.india]

5 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

He scored but not much around 40-50 most times, and the thing with wi is they as a bowling unit they lack discipline so if u grind hard ull get some runs and there also he didnt convert it into a big one despite many starts.

Yes on flat decks he is a beast. Ball coming on bat nicely no lateral movemnt be it spin or swing. 

but those are not big scoring pitches and grounds, so, even 50 is a big score there. He was MOS on 2011 WI tour in ODI series.

[Ankit_sharma03]

1 hour ago, rkt.india said:

but those are not big scoring pitches and grounds, so, even 50 is a big score there. He was MOS on 2011 WI tour in ODI series.

i know, but virat did score a 100

As a quality batsman ur expected to do that.

If he is that talented, y being avg 

[rkt.india]

1 minute ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

i know, but virat did score a 100

As a quality batsman ur expected to do that.

If he is that talented, y being avg 

that was a flat pitch.

[Ankit_sharma03]

11 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

that was a flat pitch.

Rohit got a start, threw his wkt again.

46 in 78 balls kind of slowwwwww innings on flat deck.

Not done on flat pitch. 

See when u get a start that means u got the hang of the conditions, most of the times u have to score big. I can understand if ur a newcomer but not after 6-7 yrs

[rkt.india]

1 minute ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Rohit got a start, threw his wkt again.

46 in 78 balls kind of slowwwwww innings on flat deck.

Not done on flat pitch. 

See when u get a start that means u got the hang of the conditions, most of the times u have to score big. I can understand if ur a newcomer but not after 6-7 yrs

I meant that pitch got flat as the ball got older. Wasnt flat from the start. New ball was doing a lot. The reason for slow innings. See what WI scored on that same pitch.

[Ankit_sharma03]

13 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

I meant that pitch got flat as the ball got older. Wasnt flat from the start. New ball was doing a lot. The reason for slow innings. See what WI scored on that same pitch.

fair enough,sill no excuse for throwing wkt again n again when ur set . Once ur set means set, i knw u cnt always score big but that series didnt happen once. 

Specially when u have taken so much time and ur set batsman u have to take responsibilty. 

Same thing is this Wc, slow start ok fair enough that may be ur game plan but then execute it. As a senior player 1 score in last 11 innings is not done . 

And that one innings against bang in asia cup he was dropped twice. Means there is constant error post getting set thats not done as a senior batsman forget being the top batsman

Edited March 29, 2016 by Ankit_sharma03

[The Realist]

Its becoming steadily apparent that Nohit is a one format (ODIs) FTB.

He is far too one-dimensional for a T20 opener as plays the same old way in every game irrespective of the match situation. Is proving pretty hopeless in the powerplays. 

The less said about his ability in test the better as he is a deer in the headlights in that format.

He's nearing 30 and for all his so-called talent he never really fully convinces. I think he will end up being the Mark Ramprakash of Indian cricket.  

Edited March 29, 2016 by The Realist

[Ultimate_Game]

7 hours ago, rkt.india said:

Every game is a pressure game when you play for India.

Naah not really. E.g., a 3 match T20 series or a 5 match odi series at home against SL or SA is not the same as a semi-final or a final (or even a must-win game) in an ICC tourney. You only have to look at SA and their batsmen such as Amla or ABDV to see it. There's a different kind of pressure in must-win games of an ICC tourney and so far Rohit hasn't shown he can handle it.

[express bowling]

Rohit needs a bit of time to get started and , if he survives, he is a beast after scoring 50 + on flat pitches which are a dime a dozen in ODIs.

In T20s...the extra  time to get started can prove to be critical as there are only 120 deliveries. 

This is becoming even more of a problem for us as Dhawan is unable to play quickly from the word go also.

Two openers, who are similar types of players in the first 10 overs, is an issue that would require solving after the WT20 is over.

Edited March 29, 2016 by express bowling

[maniac]

1 hour ago, Ultimate_Game said:

Naah not really. E.g., a 3 match T20 series or a 5 match odi series at home against SL or SA is not the same as a semi-final or a final (or even a must-win game) in an ICC tourney. You only have to look at SA and their batsmen such as Amla or ABDV to see it. There's a different kind of pressure in must-win games of an ICC tourney and so far Rohit hasn't shown he can handle it.

Qf of the World Cup ..... Who showed up???

yeah don't brush it off as just Bangladesh.....just rewind the early overs of the game in your head for a second

[Ultimate_Game]

2 hours ago, maniac said:

Qf of the World Cup ..... Who showed up???

yeah don't brush it off as just Bangladesh.....just rewind the early overs of the game in your head for a second

It's time he starts showing up against tougher opponents in ICC tourneys the way Dhawan did in CT2013 or in WC2015. With due respect to B'desh, I would want my top players to show up against premier teams like Aus, Pak, SA, NZ, WI, Eng etc. Yes, it's great he showed up against B'desh but do you want to have a player in the team who doesn't show up against others in ICC tourneys?

[rkt.india]

16 hours ago, Ultimate_Game said:

Naah not really. E.g., a 3 match T20 series or a 5 match odi series at home against SL or SA is not the same as a semi-final or a final (or even a must-win game) in an ICC tourney. You only have to look at SA and their batsmen such as Amla or ABDV to see it. There's a different kind of pressure in must-win games of an ICC tourney and so far Rohit hasn't shown he can handle it.

Every game is a pressure game for India. You lose against BD, you will be criticized. You win against BD, you get nothing. Same for any other team, you are always playing for rankings. You lose a match to lower ranked side, you lose points. You lose to Pakistan, you will be abused. Regarding Rohit not showing in pressure games, no batsman can do that every time. Rohit has sometimes done well, sometimes not from his first game in T20 2007 to CB, series, WC last year, he has done well.

[Ultimate_Game]

8 hours ago, rkt.india said:

Every game is a pressure game for India. You lose against BD, you will be criticized. You win against BD, you get nothing. Same for any other team, you are always playing for rankings. You lose a match to lower ranked side, you lose points. You lose to Pakistan, you will be abused. Regarding Rohit not showing in pressure games, no batsman can do that every time. Rohit has sometimes done well, sometimes not from his first game in T20 2007 to CB, series, WC last year, he has done well.

My point is that Rohit has been in the Indian setup for 9 years now and has been a regular in the side for 4-5 years. He performs pretty well in bilateral series but when the chips are down in an ICC tourney he's nowhere to be seen. One knock against B'desh won't cut it. You expect your top players to be a lot more consistent. Even in Aus (in WC 2015) he didn't do much against ougher opponents such as Pak, SA and Aus. Dhawan showed up and Kohli got a 100 against Pak and a 50 (or near 50) against SA. This is what you expect of your key performers.

So far Rohit is turning into one of those SA players (Amla, ABDV) who look like a million dollars in bilaterals but go missing when it really counts in ICC tourneys. The way Rohit batted in Aus in the recent series against Aus in odis and T20, you would think he's Bradman incarnate. And then you see him in WT20 and you wonder whether it's the same player. Yes, the pitches are different but that shouldn't result in such a steep drop-off in performances. There will always be pressure when you play for india, but the pressure in ICC tourneys (especially the must-win games) is a different level altogether. So far Rohit hasn't shown he can perform in that pressure and I'm hoping I'm proven wrong. I don't want Rohit to be another Amla, I want him to be another Kohli  

Edited March 30, 2016 by Ultimate_Game