velu Posted July 13, 2016 Posted July 13, 2016 Quote Here’s what happened: Four Soviet diplomats were kidnapped in September 1985 by a fundamentalist group called the Islamic Liberation Organization. Russia quickly dispatched its Alpha group, tasked with counter-terrorism hostage-rescue operations, to Beirut. Once the team learned that Arkady Katkov, a consular attaché and one of the four hostages, was killed, they responded quickly by tracking down and locating one of the kidnappers’ leaders (or relative it’s not clear). In order to send a clear message to the terrorists, Alpha group members castrated the hostage, cut him down into pieces and sent him to the hostage takers. They also threatened to kill more of the kidnappers’ relatives if the Soviet diplomats were not free. As a result, the 3 hostages were released and dropped off near the Soviet Embassy and no Russian officials were ever taken captive since then. Some say that the release of the Soviet hostages was the result of extensive diplomatic negotiations with the spiritual leader of Hezbollah, Grand Ayatollah Mohammad Hussein Fadlallah. It’s not surprising to see the Russians react that way to hostage situations specially after what they’ve done during the Moscow theater and the Beslan school hostage crisis. russians are badass other links http://articles.latimes.com/1986-01-07/news/mn-13892_1_soviets http://blogbaladi.com/how-russia-responded-to-the-kidnapping-of-four-soviet-diplomats-in-beirut-in-1985/ tweaker 1
panther Posted July 13, 2016 Posted July 13, 2016 Funny that Hezbollah is Russia ally today. tweaker 1
mishra Posted July 13, 2016 Posted July 13, 2016 It is incorrect reporting. Terrorist in past have tried taken Russians as hostage and killed a lot of them. Please note that a lot of these terrorists are termed as freedom fighters by western media. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beslan_school_siege Quote The Beslan school siege (also referred to as the Beslan school hostage crisis or Beslan massacre)[2][3][4] started on 1 September 2004, lasted three days, involved the capture of over 1,100 people as hostages (including 777 children),[5] and ended with the death of at least 385 people. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_theater_hostage_crisis Quote The Moscow theater hostage crisis (also known as the 2002 Nord-Ost siege) was the seizure of a crowded Dubrovka Theater by 40 to 50 armed Chechens on 23 October 2002 that involved 850 hostages and ended with the death of at least 170 people. The attackers, led by Movsar Barayev, claimed allegiance to the Islamist militant separatist movement in Chechnya.[1] T A list of high profile attacks involving mass casuality. https://www.rt.com/news/322495-deadliest-terrorist-attacks-russia/ Not many Muslims believe that Russia is muddling in middle east or other Muslim countries, Hence they have no demand to put against "Russian state" as a whole. But occasionally they do teach Russians a lesson if it ever adventures against Muslim nation velu and tweaker 2
velu Posted July 13, 2016 Author Posted July 13, 2016 @mishra aware of this school seize which happened a decade ago.. russian handling is totally different from how other countries use to handle the hostage situation .. also the way they handled the chechan civil war is another example that russain strategy is the best when comes to dealing terrorism.. i have no doubts that russains targeted not only terrorists , they did target the family too..
mishra Posted July 13, 2016 Posted July 13, 2016 4 minutes ago, velu said: @mishra aware of this school seize which happened a decade ago.. russian handling is totally different from how other countries use to handle the hostage situation .. also the way they handled the chechan civil war is another example that russain strategy is the best when comes to dealing terrorism.. i have no doubts that russains targeted not only terrorists , they did target the family too.. If you can get evidence against San Bernadinho or Orlando killing terrorists family member then why not go after them. Problem is as soon as such attacks happen in West, the media is immediately involved in giving clean chit to their family members just to prove their narrative that religion of peace isnt responsible. What they(media) dont realize is not everything can be gathered by Intelligence system in advance. A Police remand of people close to these guys does wonders in gathering the evidence too. The same culture is coming in India too. Only the guy who fires the gun or plants the bomb is responsible and NOT people around that guy.
Mariyam Posted July 21, 2016 Posted July 21, 2016 I don't think this has anything to do with Russians being "badass". Its simply because the Russians, for the most part have no money to pay as ransom. The same reason terrorists never take Cambodians, Rwandans, Peruvians, British or Greeks as hostage. sandeep 1
mishra Posted July 21, 2016 Posted July 21, 2016 (edited) 2 hours ago, Mariyam said: I don't think this has anything to do with Russians being "badass". Its simply because the Russians, for the most part have no money to pay as ransom. The same reason terrorists never take Cambodians, Rwandans, Peruvians, British or Greeks as hostage. Brits were always hostage till few year back before i think they made some deal with Saudi Kings where they supply arms, propaganda and planning/training personnel to be used against Shia state of Iran,Yemen and other mid east Shia states as whole. Also attacks on British soil have decreased significantly, Most believe its our MI5 intelligence, I believe its Saudi funded British mosques/muslim scholars co-operation Edited July 21, 2016 by mishra
sandeep Posted July 22, 2016 Posted July 22, 2016 (edited) This myth making is such bullshit. Russia's heavy handed tactics have not resulted in any great successes against terrorism. If that were the case, Chechnya would have been resolved 20 years ago. Yes, forceful retaliation is extremely tempting when dealing with horrific terror attacks, but objective rational steps have to be taken. Reality is, there IS no tactic that "works" against terrorists. "Some people just want to watch the world burn." On 7/21/2016 at 5:32 AM, mishra said: Brits were always hostage till few year back before i think they made some deal with Saudi Kings where they supply arms, propaganda and planning/training personnel to be used against Shia state of Iran,Yemen and other mid east Shia states as whole. Also attacks on British soil have decreased significantly, Most believe its our MI5 intelligence, I believe its Saudi funded British mosques/muslim scholars co-operation Rumor monger much? What's the difference between this BS and ignorant Pakistani claiming that the jews had something to do with 9/11. Edited July 22, 2016 by sandeep
mishra Posted July 22, 2016 Posted July 22, 2016 3 minutes ago, sandeep said: Rumor monger much? What's the difference between this BS and ignorant Pakistani claiming that the jews had something to do with 9/11. Which part is BS? Enlighten me enlightened one. But before that figure out what is Iran, Whats happening in Yemen, Why the oldest and most equipped terrorist org Hezbollah isnt doing suicide attacks in west, What countries are Shia Regime, Why Syria is reported while more people dieing in Yemen everyday with the arm,s purchased from west (specially UK) goes simply un noticed. Do you think recent EU's criticism of sale to Sauds is linked to terrorst attacks in France or new deals between France and Iran may be linked to increased attack?
velu Posted July 22, 2016 Author Posted July 22, 2016 3 hours ago, sandeep said: This myth making is such bullshit. Russia's heavy handed tactics have not resulted in any great successes against terrorism. If that were the case, Chechnya would have been resolved 20 years ago. Yes, forceful retaliation is extremely tempting when dealing with horrific terror attacks, but objective rational steps have to be taken. Reality is, there IS no tactic that "works" against terrorists. "Some people just want to watch the world burn." Rumor monger much? What's the difference between this BS and ignorant Pakistani claiming that the jews had something to do with 9/11. Chechnya is one of the peaceful oblast in russia and the issue was solved 15 years ago
sandeep Posted July 22, 2016 Posted July 22, 2016 Saudis have *-all control over the Sunni dominated ISIS. Just by throwing random tidbits and unrelated facts you can't justify blanket accusations of shadowy deals made with the devil.
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