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Jayalalitha Ji Passes Away.


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31 minutes ago, BeautifulGame said:

There is a reason why she lost 230/234 in 96 assembly and 40/40 in 2004 LokSabha .

In such a long period in politics and in states like TN which have incumbency issues with wild swings, thats bound to happen. In 1991 she swept to power in a big way. Does that mean DMK were terrible in governance?  DMK got 0 seats in 2014. 

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In such a long period in politics and in states like TN which have incumbency issues with wild swings, thats bound to happen. In 1991 she swept to power in a big way. Does that mean DMK were terrible in governance? 

No it was because Rajiv Gandhi was assassinated on the eve of election and Congress were in alliance with ADMK.

If u want an example if DMK being hammered due to poor governance ,it was in 2011 .

2001 and 2006 assembly elections were mostly decided by the strong alliances

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To sum it up GB, Karunanithi was a politician(After 89 mainly) who feared consequences so he always preferred to maintain status quo .Only exception was in 2006 when he the likes of Alagiri and Kanimozhi run riot

But Jaya always had the courage to see through whatever decision see made whether good or bad .

That's why Karunanithi could never get reelected .Whereas with Amma , when she was bad she was routed (like in 96) and reelected when governance was good 2016 .

Karuna never had her lows neither the highs Jayalalitha had as a politician .

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I cant understand when people say "Jaya did this, she did that", "Gave bunch of free stuff" etc. She is not doling out her money for this charity. She is using our money to give away these freebies and getting all the accolades. This is what the government should do, she did not do any thing extraordinary. I hope freebie culture in TN dies off and we start electing people based on their qualification to make good policies which will benefit the general population. 

We seem to set the bar too low for our politicians. We are ok with their looting as long as they throw some bones here and there for us.

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I cant understand when people say "Jaya did this, she did that", "Gave bunch of free stuff" etc. She is not doling out her money for this charity. She is using our money to give away these freebies and getting all the accolades. This is what the government should do, she did not do any thing extraordinary. I hope freebie culture in TN dies off and we start electing people based on their qualification to make good policies which will benefit the general population. 

We seem to set the bar too low for our politicians. We are ok with their looting as long as they throw some bones here and there for us.

The freebie nonsense is overrated .Only the grinders and mixies that were given as part of election manifesto were bad.Laptops to school kids was a great initiative.

It's like people don't know the difference between welfare schemes and freebies

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8 minutes ago, BeautifulGame said:

 

 

 

 

You guys (BJP I refer ) will never understand our politics lol

 

If there was any doubt , 2016 campaign put paid to that lol

maybe. though vote share of bjp+ in 2014 wasn't too bad:

 

Aiadmk: 44.3%

dmk: 26.8

bjp+ : 18.5

upa: 4.3

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16 minutes ago, Panhandle said:

I cant understand when people say "Jaya did this, she did that", "Gave bunch of free stuff" etc. She is not doling out her money for this charity. She is using our money to give away these freebies and getting all the accolades. This is what the government should do, she did not do any thing extraordinary. I hope freebie culture in TN dies off and we start electing people based on their qualification to make good policies which will benefit the general population. 

We seem to set the bar too low for our politicians. We are ok with their looting as long as they throw some bones here and there for us.

you can understand once you research. 

 

1, Rain water harvesting

2, Anti religious conversion

3, Salary for temple priests

4, Support for Modi during Godhra,support for BJP during ram janma bhoomi

5,Subsidised food for poor.

6, Inspite of higer debt, very good Debt to GDP ratio.

 She is socialist but not that bad. But yeah TN can do much better.

She was corrupt during her first reign, she was a good administrator during her second, time to remember her for that.

The love that you see from common people is not untrue, there would be individuals who would have been touched by her kindness - politicians have such followers. I have a close family member who had received stupendous kindness from Karuna( chief ministers complaint cell gave his widowed sister a life and family saving job) and he would support him till grave. I have read about a deaf and dumb women flower seller who received a house from JJ and she is a insignificant yet lifelong follower. The people that you see crying quietly are those, i respect their angst these are simple people.

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maybe. though vote share of bjp+ in 2014 wasn't too bad:

 

Aiadmk: 44.3%

dmk: 26.8

bjp+ : 18.5

upa: 4.3

Yes because DMK was struggling with infighting and there was alliance with PMK mdmk and dmdk.N ot many of those votes were for BJP as 2016 numbers showed

Also remember all of them left BJP in 2016 because they considered BJP liability (all four got decimated anyway) and now DMK despite losing in 2016 emerged pretty strong .

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4 minutes ago, BeautifulGame said:

Yes because DMK was struggling with infighting and there was alliance with PMK mdmk and dmdk.N ot many of those votes were for BJP as 2016 numbers showed

Also remember all of them left BJP in 2016 because they considered BJP liability (all four got decimated anyway) and now DMK despite losing in 2016 emerged pretty strong .

small correction. PMK and DMDK ready to ally with BJP subject to BJP fighting under their projected CM candidate. BJP refused. Looking at things now, its for the best. In the bypolls conducted BJP got more votes than PMK and DMDK.

 

DMDK is as good as dead. PMK as well, their vote share is concentrated in the north but its going to be hard for them to sustain themselves for the next few years. BJP has no such issues, it has funds and manpower at its disposal. Ramadoss may want to establish his son, but he needs to be realistic. 

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6 minutes ago, BeautifulGame said:

Yes because DMK was struggling with infighting and there was alliance with PMK mdmk and dmdk.N ot many of those votes were for BJP as 2016 numbers showed

Also remember all of them left BJP in 2016 because they considered BJP liability (all four got decimated anyway) and now DMK despite losing in 2016 emerged pretty strong .

assembly election r different from LS.
Maybe you wanna explain why a national party can't do well in TN. or is it just about party's name (BJP doesn't have 'dravid' in its name)?

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small correction. PMK and DMDK ready to ally with BJP subject to BJP fighting under their projected CM candidate. BJP refused. Looking at things now, its for the best. In the bypolls conducted BJP got more votes than PMK and DMDK.

 

DMDK is as good as dead. PMK as well, their vote share is concentrated but its going to be hard for them to sustain themselves for the next few years.

Are u trolling me?:confused: BJP got 3000 votes lol

What it actually showed is there was no space for 3rd party in Tamil Nadu

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assembly election r different from LS.

Maybe you wanna explain why a national party can't do well in TN. or is it just about party's name (BJP doesn't have 'dravid' in its name)?

Carvery issue

Srilankan issue

No credible Tamil leader

The media penetration of both DMK and ADMK

Can't play hindutva (BJP) or minority (Congress) here

Tamil Nationalism or dravidan

Plenty of reasons are there tbh thats without going into the the general issues like no organizational structure etc

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