goose Posted January 7, 2017 Posted January 7, 2017 (edited) Does anyone know how to get the test batting average of all non Asian players ( i.e from ENG, NZ, RSA, AUS, WI, ZIM) in Asian conditions (i.e. IND, PAK, UAE, SL, BANG)? I've seen the following posted in another forum although I cannot verify its accuracy. It's the Test batting average of Asian players in countries outside Asia. Edited January 7, 2017 by goose tweaker 1
Jimmy Cliff Posted January 7, 2017 Posted January 7, 2017 Non-asian batsmein in Asia (min. 1000 runs) Asian batsmen outside Asia (min. 1000 runs not including ZIM)
goose Posted January 7, 2017 Author Posted January 7, 2017 (edited) Thanks but the first table doesn't seem right. The numbers in the matches played and runs column look far too low? Edited January 7, 2017 by goose
Jimmy Cliff Posted January 7, 2017 Posted January 7, 2017 The no. of matches/runs seem low compared to Asian bats outside Asia but are accurate.
goose Posted January 7, 2017 Author Posted January 7, 2017 Very interesting. I guess this is partly because there are only 3 main Asian test sides (4 if you include Bangladesh) hence fewer matches played on their soil. Of the recognised greats Kallis and Lara stand out. Ponting does not. New guy 1
sandeep Posted January 8, 2017 Posted January 8, 2017 Limiting the list of non-Asian batsmen to minimum 1500 runs scored whittles it down nicely. Surprised to see Stephen Fleming and Darren Bravo in there. I expected Andy Flower and Chanderpaul to have better numbers - I guess there were a couple of series where they just dominated us that I remember disproportionately.
express bowling Posted January 8, 2017 Posted January 8, 2017 (edited) Of the 8 Asian batsmen averaging 45+ in tests outside Asia ( excluding Zim ) ....6 are Indian. Out of the 4 Asian batsmen averaging 50+ in tests outside Asia...all are Indian. This is why Indian test batsmen are considered the best in Asia.....they know how to adapt to and succeed in different conditions apart from home-like ones. Overall figures Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave 100 50 0 AM Rahane (INDIA) 2013-2016 17 29 5 1312 147 54.66 4 7 2 R Dravid (ICC/INDIA) 1996-2012 64 119 15 5443 233 52.33 13 28 3 SM Gavaskar (INDIA) 1971-1986 46 81 6 3868 221 51.57 15 15 5 SR Tendulkar (INDIA) 1990-2012 73 128 10 6007 241* 50.90 18 28 9 M Amarnath (INDIA) 1976-1986 24 41 1 1936 138 48.40 4 12 3 Javed Miandad (PAK) 1976-1993 48 78 6 3340 271 46.38 9 15 4 V Kohli (INDIA) 2011-2016 24 43 1 1939 200 46.16 8 4 4 Saleem Malik (PAK) 1983-1996 33 51 7 2001 165 45.47 4 12 5 KC Sangakkara (SL) 2000-2015 34 66 4 2764 203 44.58 7 16 2 Mohammad Yousuf (PAK) 1998-2010 33 62 2 2647 203 44.11 7 11 7 Saeed Anwar (PAK) 1994-2001 15 28 0 1205 176 43.03 4 6 2 Inzamam-ul-Haq (ICC/PAK) 1992-2007 45 80 7 3138 148 42.98 8 18 6 VVS Laxman (INDIA) 1997-2012 57 102 11 3856 178 42.37 7 25 7 Hanif Mohammad (PAK) 1954-1967 21 40 2 1605 337 42.23 4 5 3 SC Ganguly (INDIA) 1996-2008 41 71 6 2711 144 41.70 5 15 4 Younis Khan (PAK) 2000-2017 35 65 3 2540 218 40.96 6 10 6 Majid Khan (PAK) 1967-1982 30 55 2 2106 167 39.73 5 9 5 Asif Iqbal (PAK) 1964-1979 31 54 4 1977 175 39.54 8 3 6 PA de Silva (SL) 1984-2002 25 46 0 1818 267 39.52 4 7 3 PR Umrigar (INDIA) 1952-1962 18 35 2 1278 172* 38.72 4 7 2 Zaheer Abbas (PAK) 1971-1985 34 61 1 2305 274 38.41 4 13 8 Sadiq Mohammad (PAK) 1971-1978 22 40 0 1533 166 38.32 3 7 4 A Ranatunga (SL) 1984-1998 19 35 3 1215 90 37.96 0 10 3 GR Viswanath (INDIA) 1971-1982 34 61 3 2195 114 37.84 3 18 4 Ijaz Ahmed (PAK) 1987-2001 24 40 2 1411 141 37.13 5 6 2 Azhar Ali (PAK) 2010-2017 22 43 3 1485 205* 37.12 2 9 3 Mohsin Khan (PAK) 1978-1985 18 32 1 1142 200 36.83 3 0 1 Mushtaq Mohammad (PAK) 1962-1979 32 60 3 2079 201 36.47 5 11 3 Saeed Ahmed (PAK) 1958-1973 20 39 1 1370 150 36.05 1 11 1 VS Hazare (INDIA) 1946-1953 17 32 2 1079 145 35.96 2 5 2 TT Samaraweera (SL) 2003-2013 19 36 4 1149 125 35.90 3 6 5 MS Atapattu (SL) 1997-2007 21 42 4 1356 185 35.68 4 6 3 V Sehwag (ICC/INDIA) 2001-2012 34 63 0 2228 195 35.36 5 8 8 M Azharuddin (INDIA) 1985-1999 38 57 3 1907 192 35.31 6 6 1 AD Mathews (SL) 2011-2017 17 33 0 1140 160 34.54 2 7 0 TM Dilshan (SL) 2000-2013 19 36 2 1166 193 34.29 2 6 2 Imran Khan (PAK) 1971-1990 37 60 9 1741 136 34.13 2 8 4 M Vijay (INDIA) 2010-2016 19 35 0 1187 146 33.91 2 7 3 RJ Shastri (INDIA) 1981-1992 30 48 6 1407 206 33.50 5 1 4 Aamer Sohail (PAK) 1992-1998 21 38 2 1182 205 32.83 1 7 3 DPMD Jayawardene (SL) 1998-2014 35 67 1 2162 141 32.75 5 7 7 FM Engineer (INDIA) 1962-1974 20 39 2 1209 89 32.67 0 8 4 DB Vengsarkar (INDIA) 1976-1992 48 82 6 2463 157 32.40 4 13 8 Misbah-ul-Haq (PAK) 2001-2017 20 38 3 1124 114 32.11 2 8 6 Wasim Raja (PAK) 1973-1985 25 43 3 1276 117* 31.90 1 8 2 Salman Butt (PAK) 2004-2010 17 34 0 1041 108 30.61 2 5 4 AL Wadekar (INDIA) 1967-1974 22 41 1 1219 143 30.47 1 8 3 HP Tillakaratne (SL) 1989-2003 23 41 5 1095 119 30.41 3 4 3 MS Dhoni (INDIA) 2006-2014 39 72 5 1996 92 29.79 0 15 7 W Jaffer (INDIA) 2002-2008 18 34 0 1006 212 29.58 2 7 4 ST Jayasuriya (SL) 1991-2007 29 56 4 1488 213 28.61 2 6 7 Imran Farhat (PAK) 2001-2013 26 49 1 1268 117* 26.41 1 6 3 N Kapil Dev (INDIA) 1979-1994 44 67 4 1640 129 26.03 3 7 9 Mudassar Nazar (PAK) 1976-1989 30 48 2 1196 124 26.00 1 5 5 WPUJC Vaas (SL) 1995-2008 29 55 11 1001 57 22.75 0 4 4 Wasim Akram (PAK) 1985-2001 41 67 9 1215 123 20.94 1 2 5 http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;continent=1;continent=3;continent=4;continent=5;filter=advanced;home_or_away=2;home_or_away=3;opposition=1;opposition=2;opposition=3;opposition=4;opposition=5;orderby=batting_average;qualmin2=1000;qualval2=runs;size=100;team=140;team=25;team=6;team=7;team=8;template=results;type=batting Edited January 8, 2017 by express bowling sandeep 1
goose Posted January 8, 2017 Author Posted January 8, 2017 (edited) It also shows that when an Indian batsman conquers away conditions (50+) he ends up being an ATG. A non Asian doing well in Asia doesn't necessarily translate into ATG status. Edited January 8, 2017 by goose
Malcolm Merlyn Posted January 8, 2017 Posted January 8, 2017 Non-asian batsmein in Asia (min. 1000 runs) Asian batsmen outside Asia (min. 1000 runs not including ZIM) Remove BD from the asian team list and you will see a massive difference in the list. @goose
express bowling Posted January 8, 2017 Posted January 8, 2017 13 minutes ago, Malcolm Merlyn said: Remove BD from the asian team list and you will see a massive difference in the list. @goose Also, there are 3 top Asian teams compared to 5 top non-Asian teams . There is bound to be more non-Asian batsmen
King Tendulkar Posted January 8, 2017 Posted January 8, 2017 Surprising . I was told that yk was better then Dravid and did not expect to see him below ganguly. looks like I was fed some false propoganda express bowling 1
goose Posted January 8, 2017 Author Posted January 8, 2017 I can't seem to work this on stats guru - the option to sort by batting average disappears. Would be great if someone could redo the non Asian list with min 1500 runs and removing Bangladesh.
BeautifulGame Posted January 8, 2017 Posted January 8, 2017 7 minutes ago, goose said: I can't seem to work this on stats guru - the option to sort by batting average disappears. Would be great if someone could redo the non Asian list with min 1500 runs and removing Bangladesh. http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;continent=2;filter=advanced;home_or_away=2;home_or_away=3;opposition=6;opposition=7;opposition=8;orderby=batting_average;qualmin2=1500;qualval2=runs;size=100;team=1;team=2;team=3;team=4;team=5;template=results;type=batting
goose Posted January 8, 2017 Author Posted January 8, 2017 Thanks BG. All feels a bit unsatisfactory with hardly anyone with a tally above 2000 runs. Lara only 3 tests in India. Kallis is always at the top of any list you care to make...very impressive.
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