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Will Rohit turn the page in the WC?

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On 4/23/2019 at 8:55 AM, SK_IH said:

Both Rohit and Virat have lots to prove in this WC, time to attain unqualified greatness

Rohit has started really well, maintain this form and attain greatness. 

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On 4/23/2019 at 3:16 PM, zen said:

Apart from a few usual fanboys, who will root for Rohit even if he scores 3 ducks in a row, there appears to be less confidence in Rohit turning the page :nervous:

Waiting for those amazing statsguru filters to show how useless this 100 was. If not now, I am sure it will feature some day in those lists that you make showing it as the slowest ever 100

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1 hour ago, ShoonyaSifar said:

Waiting for those amazing statsguru filters to show how useless this 100 was. If not now, I am sure it will feature some day in those lists that you make showing it as the slowest ever 100

Good to see your enthusiasm. I do not recall reading your posts or may be you changed your ID but anyways nice to know what you “wait” for  :dontknow:

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49 minutes ago, zen said:

Good to see your enthusiasm. I do not recall reading your posts or may be you changed your ID but anyways nice to know what you “wait” for  :dontknow:

Pre-teen dementia is always good especially after one has had so much sh*t thrown at one's face in game 1 itself.

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20 minutes ago, flamy said:

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Brilliant post and analysis from reddit.

 

This is the Noheet-Brohit line. We need him to cross 21.

 

Good post. Rohit plays most of his games on good batting surfaces so scoring 21 or less 50% of the time appears high too relative to other top order batsmen!

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On 6/6/2019 at 12:52 AM, ShoonyaSifar said:

Waiting for those amazing statsguru filters to show how useless this 100 was. If not now, I am sure it will feature some day in those lists that you make showing it as the slowest ever 100

All the 100 threads created in his name will go down the drain lol

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3 minutes ago, zen said:

A simple topic on "will Rohit perform in this WC" has some made some folks tense :lol:

Lol tense. Real Rohit fans walked in like a champ and left like a baws after the first game

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1 minute ago, maniac said:

Lol tense. Real Rohit fans walked in like a champ and left like a baws after the first game

To me, cricketers are like tools used to perform certain jobs. This topic is about will Rohit, who occupies one of the key slots, perform esp. giving his poor history in such events. Now if Rohit has few fans and if they feel good after his 100 vs. an unlucky SA, it is good for them! 

 

 

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8 minutes ago, zen said:

To me, cricketers are like tools used to perform certain jobs. This topic is about will Rohit, who occupies one of the key slots, perform esp. giving his poor history in such events. Now if Rohit has few fans and if they feel good after his 100 vs. an unlucky SA, it is good for them! 

 

 

Dropping  a catch is not called bad luck it is called inefficiency and lack of skills and if you don’t bring your A game, champions hurt you.

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12 hours ago, maniac said:

Forget turning the page, he is going to write his own book :)

 

His book will have lot of dreary small chapters full of spelling and punctuation errors, along with a few thrilling big chapters :giggle:

 

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Just now, maniac said:

Dropping  a catch is not called bad luck it is called inefficiency and lack of skills and if you don’t bring your A game, champions hurt you.

Not only catches but SA is negatively impacted through injuries as well. Also “umpire’s call” went against SA, which is definitely luck as it depends upon interpretation of a 3rd person

 

But anyways, Rohit did well to use the opportunities. Now if some of his fans want to walk like champs after the game, they can enjoy themselves. Ind cricket fans have seen many batsman score over the years so expect key batsmen to perform

 

There is a prediction thread here so look forward to seeing your inputs!

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, philcric said:

 

His book will have lot of dreary small chapters full of spelling and punctuation errors, punctuated with a few thrilling big chapters :giggle:

 

I don’t care about the odd coffee cup or water bottle gaffes, I would rate GOT one of the finest pieces of television ever :) it’s the final product that matters. Stop nitpicking 

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5 minutes ago, zen said:

Not only catches but SA is negatively impacted through injuries as well. Also “umpire’s call” went against SA, which is definitely luck as it depends upon interpretation of a 3rd person

 

But anyways, Rohit did well to use the opportunities. Now if some of his fans want to walk like champs after the game, they can enjoy themselves. Ind cricket fans have seen many batsman score over the years so expect key batsmen to perform

 

There is a prediction thread here so look forward to seeing your inputs!

 

 

 

Simple let’s say Federer vs Nadal are playing a match, Nadal  reaches a few volleys and trips. Federer has an open court to dispatch the ball anywhere he wants but hits it out a few times.

 

Now end result is Nadal 6-0,6-0,5-1 in Nadal’s favor with Federer injured and conceding the game to Nadal without completing , would that be  bad luck for Federer or Nadal outplaying him like a champ.

 

There is no luck in sports only wins and loses

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5 minutes ago, maniac said:

I don’t care about the odd coffee cup or water bottle gaffes, I would rate GOT one of the finest pieces of television ever :) it’s the final product that matters. Stop nitpicking 

 

More like 4 episodes of GOT interspersed with 4 seasons of Hostages.

 

'Kya aap apne family ko bachane ke liye kisi ka murder karenge?'  :mad:

 

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3 minutes ago, maniac said:

Simple let’s say Federer vs Nadal are playing a match, Nadal  reaches a few volleys and trips. Federer has an open court to dispatch the ball anywhere he wants but hits it out a few times.

 

Now end result is Nadal 6-0,6-0,5-1 in Nadal’s favor with Federer injured and conceding the game to Nadal without completing , would that be  bad luck for Federer or Nadal outplaying him like a champ.

 

There is no luck in sports only wins and loses

What Pakistan did to Tendulkar at Mohali was luck. dropping 3 straight forward chances. In this cases probably one of the fastest fielder in the world Faf could barely touch the ball. Citing ball falling in no man's land, umpire's call is clutching at straws lol

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4 minutes ago, maniac said:

Simple let’s say Federer vs Nadal are playing a match, Nadal  reaches a few volleys and trips. Federer has an open court to dispatch the ball anywhere he wants but hits it out a few times.

 

Now end result is Nadal 6-0,6-0,5-1 in Nadal’s favor with Federer injured and conceding the game to Nadal without completing , would that be  bad luck for Federer or Nadal outplaying him like a champ.

 

There is no luck in sports only wins and loses

Already discussed injuries and umpire’s call. Talking about luck in general, cricket is unique as it depends on factors such as toss as well. Now if Ind had batted first, Rohit, who per the stats posted here scores 21 or less 50% of the time despite batting on good batting surfaces, would have had a relatively difficult time at the crease esp. seeing him struggle so much early on in that inning. 

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2 minutes ago, zen said:

Already discussed injuries and umpire’s call. Talking about luck in general, cricket is unique as it depends on factors such as toss as well. Now if Ind had batted first, Rohit, who per the stats posted here scores 21 or less 50% of the time despite batting on good batting surfaces, would have had a relatively difficult time at the crease esp. seeing him struggle so much early on in that inning. 

Coulda would shoulda. 

 

What if Rabada was banned and only SA parttimers were bowling and Rohit scored a 300.

 

Its all assumptions.

 

This is what factually happened. Rohit scored a magnificent 100 in a pressure back to the wall situation and won his team the game and won the man of the match. Fielded well and based on reputation probably had input in reducing opposition to a sub par score as well .Scored more than 50% of the runs. These are the facts.Rest all are nit pickings. Not important.

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Just now, maniac said:

Coulda would shoulda. 

 

What if Rabada was banned and only SA parttimers were bowling and Rohit scored a 300.

 

Its all assumptions.

 

This is what factually happened. Rohit scored a magnificent 100 in a pressure back to the wall situation and won his team the game and won the man of the match. Fielded well and based on reputation probably had input in reducing opposition to a sub par score as well .Scored more than 50% of the runs. These are the facts.Rest all are nit pickings. Not important.

The point is ppl see it as a lucky inning. But no one is stopping you from perceiving it as the best Rohit has played. Irrespective of the quality, we can agree that it helped India so all is good! 

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8 minutes ago, zen said:

The point is ppl see it as a lucky inning. But no one is stopping you from perceiving it as the best Rohit has played. Irrespective of the quality, we can agree that it helped India so all is good! 

Kohli was dropped multiple times throughout England and SA series. While whole world is going crazy on how he is an ATG, let’s say he is the luckiest player of all time by the same logic.

 

 

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8 minutes ago, maniac said:

Kohli was dropped multiple times throughout England and SA series. While whole world is going crazy on how he is an ATG, let’s say he is the luckiest player of all time by the same logic.

We do not have better options than Kohli atm. While Rohit is past his best. So obviously “luck” is discussed relatively more for such players. If Dhoni, who is past his best too, had scored such a 100, many would be pointing that out too!

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44 minutes ago, maniac said:

Kohli was dropped multiple times throughout England and SA series. While whole world is going crazy on how he is an ATG, let’s say he is the luckiest player of all time by the same logic.

 

 

I wouldn't remotely call this a lucky innings. It is not even a clear cut chance. For someone like Chahal that ball would be miles away lol In helpful spicy bouncy conditions you will find a way to get out if you are not good enough. Rohit looked the most comfortable out there. KOhli had a bit of struggle. Dhawan was fending off too. Eventually feathered one. That one over where he took Rabada apart changed the complexion of the chase.

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Let's leave aside the 2 extremes of maniac and opposite-maniac(zen), and give Brohit due credit for his batting in Game 1.  Yes, he had his slices of luck, especially early on.  You'd expect Fafdu to take that catch in the slips 8 times out of 10, if not more.  As it is, Rohit survived and then went on to win the game for India.  Love him or hate him - that's what he did.

 

This WC, the pampered princes who get to bat in the top 3 for Team India, should be expected to make winning contributions in at least 3 games.  That isn't too much to ask out of a minimum of 10 games that the team is expected to play.  A 30% success rate is eminently reasonable to expect from these prima donnas who get the luxury of "taking their time", "getting their eye in" etc etc.

 

Rohit has opened his account, and done the job for one game.  Virat and Dhawan are yet to open their account.  Let's see how they go from here. 

 

Oh, and if I had to pick one batsman who can really take on the Aus pace attack on Sunday - not just survive or get past, but take on, its going to have to be Rohit.  He's the one guy who's most comfortable and capable of making Aus pay for pitching it short.  Think back to that famous semi-final win in the 2007 T20 WC - Yuvraj came in and absolutely smoked the ball out of the park, every time Aus tried to pitch it short - while the likes of Sehwag were sent back to the pavilion.   Even the 2010 T20 WC, which I had the good (and bad) fortune to watch live - Rohit was the one guy who manned up on the typically bouncy Kensington Oval track. 

 

So all Indian fans, whether you are in the maniac  camp or the zen-camp - you'd better hope that VadaPav boi comes to the party for us on Sunday.  Because if he doesn't, it could go pear-shaped pretty quick. 

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1 hour ago, sandeep said:

This WC, the pampered princes who get to bat in the top 3 for Team India, should be expected to make winning contributions in at least 3 games.  That isn't too much to ask out of a minimum of 10 games that the team is expected to play.  A 30% success rate is eminently reasonable to expect from these prima donnas who get the luxury of "taking their time", "getting their eye in" etc etc.

I would say in at least 2 out of 6 games (Aus, Eng, NZ, Pak, SA, and WI). 

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11 hours ago, maniac said:

Kohli was dropped multiple times throughout England and SA series. While whole world is going crazy on how he is an ATG, let’s say he is the luckiest player of all time by the same logic.

 

 

Word. People have different parameters for their favorites and non-favorites.

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5 hours ago, philcric said:

 

Have some humility. Stop gloating about your luck.

 

 

becoming a fan of your witty sarcasm.. brilliant...and btw thse who havent watched GOT season 8 are defly supremely lucky. richer by 8-9 hours...

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26 minutes ago, prasen82 said:

becoming a fan of your witty sarcasm.. brilliant...and btw thse who havent watched GOT season 8 are defly supremely lucky. richer by 8-9 hours...

 

Thank You.

 

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18 hours ago, maniac said:

Kohli was dropped multiple times throughout England and SA series. While whole world is going crazy on how he is an ATG, let’s say he is the luckiest player of all time by the same logic.

 

 

I don't think u can be neutral if ur comparing Kohli's luck across 2 very challenging series & conditions with the red ball and an army of quicks compared to Rohit's 1 odi inning.

 

There is a reason Kohli is worshipped across formats while Rohit isn't considered good enough to play test cricket. Greats give far lesser chances than good or ordinary players.

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7 minutes ago, Clarke said:

I don't think u can be neutral if ur comparing Kohli's luck across 2 very challenging series & conditions with the red ball and an army of quicks compared to Rohit's 1 odi inning.

 

There is a reason Kohli is worshipped across formats while Rohit isn't considered good enough to play test cricket. Greats give far lesser chances than good or ordinary players.

Are you playing dumb on purpose? How did you miss the context of what I was saying?

 

I have said multiple times before that Kohli is the undisputed no.1 and even above Rohit. Obviously let’s not let context and logic  get in the way of everything else.

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5 hours ago, maniac said:

Are you playing dumb on purpose? How did you miss the context of what I was saying?

 

I have said multiple times before that Kohli is the undisputed no.1 and even above Rohit. Obviously let’s not let context and logic  get in the way of everything else.

I'm not playing anything, it's you who endlessly trolls and then tries to inject logic in your hero worship, facts be damned. 

 

You shouldn't be bringing up Kohli's masterclass while trying to glorify boy wonder's century against a weak SA. It's like a Buick lover claiming that even the Ferrari F1 car breaks down. Its a different ball park dumbfeck, your dubba isn't good enough to run on the ultimate track, don't bother with the comparisons.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Clarke said:

I'm not playing anything, it's you who endlessly trolls and then tries to inject logic in your hero worship, facts be damned. 

 

You shouldn't be bringing up Kohli's masterclass while trying to glorify boy wonder's century against a weak SA. It's like a Buick lover claiming that even the Ferrari F1 car breaks down. Its a different ball park dumbfeck, your dubba isn't good enough to run on the ultimate track, don't bother with the comparisons.

 

 

Abbey duffer as I said above you can’t start counting drop catches and luck as a factor to put down “any” innings that won you the game in the end .

 

 A drop catch or a bad umpiring decision is not luck it is incompetence of the person responsible for it.

 

What comparison? I am saying you can start putting down each and every batting  performance including  Kohli if that’s the direction one wants to go in as an example for having a string of drop catches in his favor recently .

 

I am in fact praising him for  keeping his head down and doing his job regardless of the multiple chances. May be it’s not getting through to you so will try with all caps I AM NOT PUTTING DOWN KOHLI’S PERFORMANCE INFACT USING IT TO COMPLIMENT MY POINT.

 

Who the fk is making this about Rohit vs Kohli?

 

Very appropriate use of the word dumbfeck in this context in your post. Just misplaced. 

 

 

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8 hours ago, maniac said:

Abbey duffer as I said above you can’t start counting drop catches and luck as a factor to put down “any” innings that won you the game in the end .

 

 A drop catch or a bad umpiring decision is not luck it is incompetence of the person responsible for it.

 

What comparison? I am saying you can start putting down each and every batting  performance including  Kohli if that’s the direction one wants to go in as an example for having a string of drop catches in his favor recently .

 

I am in fact praising him for  keeping his head down and doing his job regardless of the multiple chances. May be it’s not getting through to you so will try with all caps I AM NOT PUTTING DOWN KOHLI’S PERFORMANCE INFACT USING IT TO COMPLIMENT MY POINT.

 

Who the fk is making this about Rohit vs Kohli?

 

Very appropriate use of the word dumbfeck in this context in your post. Just misplaced. 

 

 

They can't be ignored altogether by the astute observer. It's not a measure of the utility of the knock or player contribution but the measure of player quality if deciphered in an unbiased manner.

 

In your attention whoring & blind worship you will obviously come up with these idiotic standards and comparisons, include this metric but ignore that and then whine if someone calls them out. But then one shouldn't be surprised given your ghise pite threads beating the same dead horse. I'm actually surprised your other IDs haven't been pressed into service to agree with you. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Straight Drive said:

Typical hate. Bring down the cricketer as soon as he shows a dip in form in one or two series and then disappear when the normal match winning innings are played. Wonder what does someone gets from all of this and how does one manages so much time for such things.

We call it clutching at straws. Tendu got like 4 lives (all straight forward chances) during his 86 against Pakistan. Razzaq missed a toughie (compared to tis drop that is a dollie) on his way to 98 in 2003 world cup match against Pakistan.  In conditions like this you need a bit of luck. In this case Faf barely got there. Rest of them fell safely infront or no man's land. ONly real chance came after he reached 100.

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10 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

We call it clutching at straws. Tendu got like 4 lives (all straight forward chances) during his 86 against Pakistan. Razzaq missed a toughie (compared to tis drop that is a dollie) on his way to 98 in 2003 world cup match against Pakistan.  In conditions like this you need a bit of luck. In this case Faf barely got there. Rest of them fell safely infront or no man's land. ONly real chance came after he reached 100.

How many chancelss tons are scored and who has scored them in 2019?. Even in test matches people need atleast one dropped catch or wrong decision or missed stumping or missed runout to score a ton. Out of 100 ODI tons I guess the average life per 100 would be atleast 2 per 100.

 

These events are part and parcel of match and hence should not be held against cricketers acheivements. If there are 4 or 5 dropped catches or other such events in a ton then it could be said it's a bad innings.

 

Anyways what matter is he scored a match winning 100 and was rightly adjudged Player of the match. He is the 7th highest run scorer in this WC. Note that all above him have playes 3 matches

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