zen Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 In ICC and world events, Rohit has been among the poor performers vs major teams. Below is his record: View overall figures [change view] Primary team India Opposition team Australia or England or New Zealand or Pakistan or South Africa or Sri Lanka or West Indies Start of match date greater than or equal to 1 Jan 2013 Trophy Benson & Hedges World Championship of Cricket or ICC Champions Trophy (ICC KnockOut) or MRF World Series (Nehru Cup) or World Cup Qualifications runs scored greater than or equal to 100 Ordered by batting average (descending) Page 1 of 1 Showing 1 - 9 of 9 First Previous Next Last Return to query menu Cleared query menu Overall figures Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s S Dhawan 2013-2017 13 13 1 919 137 76.58 933 98.49 4 4 0 102 11 V Kohli 2013-2017 13 13 4 525 107 58.33 602 87.20 1 3 1 46 6 HH Pandya 2017-2017 4 3 1 105 76 52.50 54 194.44 0 1 0 4 10 Yuvraj Singh 2017-2017 4 4 1 105 53 35.00 106 99.05 0 1 0 13 2 MS Dhoni 2013-2017 13 8 1 240 65 34.28 243 98.76 0 2 1 20 6 AM Rahane 2015-2015 4 4 0 137 79 34.25 163 84.04 0 1 1 11 3 RG Sharma 2013-2017 13 13 0 414 91 31.84 546 75.82 0 4 2 40 9 RA Jadeja 2013-2017 13 8 3 129 47* 25.80 129 100.00 0 0 0 13 3 SK Raina 2013-2015 9 7 1 126 74 21.00 113 111.50 0 1 0 10 4 Among Indian openers too since 83, when we won the world cup and became a force, he ranks at the bottom with 1980s type of performance level in 2010s: View overall figures [change view] Primary team India Opposition team Australia or England or New Zealand or Pakistan or South Africa or Sri Lanka or West Indies Start of match date greater than or equal to 1 Jan 1983 Trophy Benson & Hedges World Championship of Cricket or ICC Champions Trophy (ICC KnockOut) or MRF World Series (Nehru Cup) or World Cup Batting position between 1 and 2 Qualifications runs scored greater than or equal to 200 Ordered by batting average (descending) Page 1 of 1 Showing 1 - 9 of 9 First Previous Next Last Return to query menu Cleared query menu Overall figures Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 S Dhawan 2013-2017 13 13 1 919 137 76.58 933 98.49 4 4 0 SC Ganguly 1998-2007 15 15 2 869 183 66.84 1040 83.55 4 2 1 SR Tendulkar 1996-2011 31 30 0 1548 141 51.60 1778 87.06 4 9 1 V Sehwag 2002-2011 18 18 2 678 126 42.37 670 101.19 1 5 1 R Lamba 1989-1989 6 6 0 231 61 38.50 354 65.25 0 3 0 RJ Shastri 1983-1992 9 9 1 281 63* 35.12 581 48.36 0 4 0 SM Gavaskar 1983-1987 9 9 1 262 103* 32.75 320 81.87 1 1 0 RG Sharma 2013-2017 13 13 0 414 91 31.84 546 75.82 0 4 2 K Srikkanth 1983-1992 29 29 2 852 93* 31.55 1208 70.52 0 7 3 This year, he has generally been poor as well: View overall figures [change view] Primary team India Start of match date between 1 Jan 2019 and 31 Dec 2019 Qualifications runs scored greater than or equal to 200 Ordered by batting strike rate (descending) Page 1 of 1 Showing 1 - 6 of 6 First Previous Next Last Return to query menu Cleared query menu Overall figures Player Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s V Kohli 11 11 0 611 123 55.54 648 94.29 3 1 0 57 5 KM Jadhav 11 9 3 290 81* 48.33 326 88.95 0 2 0 30 3 S Dhawan 13 13 1 420 143 35.00 475 88.42 1 2 2 52 4 RG Sharma 13 13 0 556 133 42.76 701 79.31 1 4 1 44 16 MS Dhoni 9 8 4 327 87* 81.75 418 78.22 0 4 1 22 6 AT Rayudu 10 10 2 247 90 30.87 328 75.30 0 1 2 24 6 Therefore, will Rohit turn the page vs major teams in this world cup or will he continue to fade away? Norman and Cricket_Nostradamus 2 Link to comment
putrevus Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 One lousy knock when match was over by all purposes does not make Hardik Pandya better than Rohit.Rohit is doing just fine leave him alone.Bangladesh qualified for ICC semis and Qtr final in last two ICC tournaments. Link to comment
zen Posted April 22, 2019 Author Share Posted April 22, 2019 (edited) 22 minutes ago, putrevus said: One lousy knock when match was over by all purposes does not make Hardik Pandya better than Rohit.Rohit is doing just fine leave him alone.Bangladesh qualified for ICC semis and Qtr final in last two ICC tournaments. The thread is not about who is better or worse (an unnecessary use of strawman), but will rohit turn the page in this WC as in ICC events he has been extremely poor vs major teams (Aus, Eng, SA, WI, NZ and Pak) despite playing a large number of games relatively: View overall figures [change view] Primary team India Opposition team Australia or England or New Zealand or Pakistan or South Africa or West Indies Start of match date greater than or equal to 1 Jan 2013 Trophy Benson & Hedges World Championship of Cricket or ICC Champions Trophy (ICC KnockOut) or MRF World Series (Nehru Cup) or World Cup Qualifications runs scored greater than or equal to 100 Ordered by batting average (descending) Page 1 of 1 Showing 1 - 7 of 7 First Previous Next Last Return to query menu Cleared query menu Overall figures Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s S Dhawan 2013-2017 11 11 1 726 137 72.60 713 101.82 3 3 0 81 9 V Kohli 2013-2017 11 11 3 467 107 58.37 533 87.61 1 2 0 42 5 AM Rahane 2015-2015 4 4 0 137 79 34.25 163 84.04 0 1 1 11 3 MS Dhoni 2013-2017 11 7 1 177 65 29.50 191 92.67 0 1 1 13 4 RG Sharma 2013-2017 11 11 0 303 91 27.54 417 72.66 0 3 2 30 6 RA Jadeja 2013-2017 11 7 2 129 47* 25.80 129 100.00 0 0 0 13 3 SK Raina 2013-2015 8 6 0 119 74 19.83 109 109.17 0 1 0 9 4 PS a non-starter vs SENA View overall figures [change view] Primary team India Opposition team Australia or England or New Zealand or South Africa Start of match date greater than or equal to 1 Jan 2013 Trophy Benson & Hedges World Championship of Cricket or ICC Champions Trophy (ICC KnockOut) or MRF World Series (Nehru Cup) or World Cup Qualifications runs scored greater than or equal to 100 Ordered by batting average (descending) Page 1 of 1 Showing 1 - 5 of 5 First Previous Next Last Return to query menu Cleared query menu Overall figures Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s S Dhawan 2013-2017 5 5 0 405 137 81.00 388 104.38 2 1 0 48 6 AM Rahane 2015-2015 2 2 0 123 79 61.50 128 96.09 0 1 0 9 3 V Kohli 2013-2017 5 5 1 197 76* 49.25 249 79.11 0 1 0 16 2 MS Dhoni 2013-2017 5 4 0 110 65 27.50 106 103.77 0 1 1 9 2 RG Sharma 2013-2017 5 5 0 120 65 24.00 169 71.00 0 1 1 11 4 Edited April 22, 2019 by zen Norman and Cricket_Nostradamus 2 Link to comment
putrevus Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 7 minutes ago, zen said: The thread is not about who is better or worse (an unnecessary use of strawman), but will rohit turn the page in this WC as in ICC events he has been extremely poor vs major teams (Aus, Eng, SA, WI, NZ and Pak) despite playing a large number of games relatively: View overall figures [change view] Primary team India Opposition team Australia or England or New Zealand or Pakistan or South Africa or West Indies Start of match date greater than or equal to 1 Jan 2013 Trophy Benson & Hedges World Championship of Cricket or ICC Champions Trophy (ICC KnockOut) or MRF World Series (Nehru Cup) or World Cup Qualifications runs scored greater than or equal to 100 Ordered by batting average (descending) Page 1 of 1 Showing 1 - 7 of 7 First Previous Next Last Return to query menu Cleared query menu Overall figures Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s S Dhawan 2013-2017 11 11 1 726 137 72.60 713 101.82 3 3 0 81 9 V Kohli 2013-2017 11 11 3 467 107 58.37 533 87.61 1 2 0 42 5 AM Rahane 2015-2015 4 4 0 137 79 34.25 163 84.04 0 1 1 11 3 MS Dhoni 2013-2017 11 7 1 177 65 29.50 191 92.67 0 1 1 13 4 RG Sharma 2013-2017 11 11 0 303 91 27.54 417 72.66 0 3 2 30 6 RA Jadeja 2013-2017 11 7 2 129 47* 25.80 129 100.00 0 0 0 13 3 SK Raina 2013-2015 8 6 0 119 74 19.83 109 109.17 0 1 0 9 4 PS a non-starter vs SENA View overall figures [change view] Primary team India Opposition team Australia or England or New Zealand or South Africa Start of match date greater than or equal to 1 Jan 2013 Trophy Benson & Hedges World Championship of Cricket or ICC Champions Trophy (ICC KnockOut) or MRF World Series (Nehru Cup) or World Cup Qualifications runs scored greater than or equal to 100 Ordered by batting average (descending) Page 1 of 1 Showing 1 - 5 of 5 First Previous Next Last Return to query menu Cleared query menu Overall figures Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s S Dhawan 2013-2017 5 5 0 405 137 81.00 388 104.38 2 1 0 48 6 AM Rahane 2015-2015 2 2 0 123 79 61.50 128 96.09 0 1 0 9 3 V Kohli 2013-2017 5 5 1 197 76* 49.25 249 79.11 0 1 0 16 2 MS Dhoni 2013-2017 5 4 0 110 65 27.50 106 103.77 0 1 1 9 2 RG Sharma 2013-2017 5 5 0 120 65 24.00 169 71.00 0 1 1 11 4 Are you kidding me, how are centuries against Bangladesh in Qtrfinals and Semi final not important.Rohit is just fine and is better every other Indian batsmen bar Kohli and Dhawan. Link to comment
zen Posted April 22, 2019 Author Share Posted April 22, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, putrevus said: Are you kidding me, how are centuries against Bangladesh in Qtrfinals and Semi final not important.Rohit is just fine and is better every other Indian batsmen bar Kohli and Dhawan. His record does not correspond to that. Note even Kenya made it to SF. No one in his right frame of mind will cite two innings against a minor team in a sample size of 13, the most number of games Ind played in the period .... Need to keep fanboyism out Edited April 22, 2019 by zen Norman and Cricket_Nostradamus 2 Link to comment
putrevus Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Just now, zen said: His record does not correspond to that. Note even Kenya made it to SF. No one in his right frame of mind will cite two innings in a sample size of 13, the most number of games Ind played in the period .... Displays fanboyism No one is their right frame count out knocks in semi finals and qtr finals to show some stupid stats which have zero relevance. Rohit Sharma has scored second most runs in ICC tournaments since 2013. Stop nitpicking , he is doing just fine. Link to comment
zen Posted April 22, 2019 Author Share Posted April 22, 2019 Just now, putrevus said: No one is their right frame count out knocks in semi finals and qtr finals to show some stupid stats which have zero relevance. Rohit Sharma has scored second most runs in ICC tournaments since 2013. Stop nitpicking , he is doing just fine. If you want others to take you seriously, you need to learn a few things: 1st: an avg of 28 at a SR of 73 vs 6 major sides is poor 2nd: in one of your posts, you termed an inning by Pandya as useless (even when this thread is not on that), while you are claiming the importance of inning vs BD, a team which Ind is expected to be overwhelming favorites against Sorry, but run away! Cricket_Nostradamus 1 Link to comment
Nikola Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Would have lost badly to Bangladesh in 2015 quarter final without rohit's knock. Op include England to filter list who themselves have lost twice in last 2 world cup against Bangladesh. It's just clear you are trying to include teams which he failed against. Cricket_Nostradamus and Norman 1 1 Link to comment
zen Posted April 22, 2019 Author Share Posted April 22, 2019 2 Just now, Nikola said: Would have lost badly to Bangladesh in 2015 quarter final without rohit's knock. Op include England to filter list who themselves have lost twice in last 2 world cup against Bangladesh. It's just clear you are trying to include teams which he failed against. Fanboyism at its best .... 8 teams are listed and you are worried about BD Cricket_Nostradamus 1 Link to comment
putrevus Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 1 minute ago, zen said: If you want others to take you seriously, you need to learn a few things: 1st: an avg of 28 at a SR of 73 vs 6 major sides is poor 2nd: in one of your posts, you termed an inning by Pandya as useless (even when this thread is not on that), while you are claiming the importance of inning vs BD, a team which Ind is expected to be overwhelming favorites against Sorry, but run away! You have to run, stop posting nonsenical posts. SR for 13 matches in six years is not poor. Rohit is doing fine stop posting nonsense. Rohit is one of the best odi batsman in world and just because you post some nonsense he does not become bad one. Link to comment
zen Posted April 22, 2019 Author Share Posted April 22, 2019 5 Just now, putrevus said: You have to run, stop posting nonsenical posts. SR for 13 matches in six years is not poor. Rohit is doing fine stop posting nonsense. Rohit is one of the best odi batsman in world and just because you post some nonsense he does not become bad one. In your dreams: View overall figures [change view] Primary team India Opposition team Australia or England or New Zealand or Pakistan or South Africa or Sri Lanka or West Indies Start of match date greater than or equal to 1 Jan 2013 Trophy Benson & Hedges World Championship of Cricket or ICC Champions Trophy (ICC KnockOut) or MRF World Series (Nehru Cup) or World Cup Qualifications runs scored greater than or equal to 100 Ordered by batting strike rate (descending) Page 1 of 1 Showing 1 - 9 of 9 First Previous Next Last Return to query menu Cleared query menu Overall figures Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s HH Pandya 2017-2017 4 3 1 105 76 52.50 54 194.44 0 1 0 4 10 SK Raina 2013-2015 9 7 1 126 74 21.00 113 111.50 0 1 0 10 4 RA Jadeja 2013-2017 13 8 3 129 47* 25.80 129 100.00 0 0 0 13 3 Yuvraj Singh 2017-2017 4 4 1 105 53 35.00 106 99.05 0 1 0 13 2 MS Dhoni 2013-2017 13 8 1 240 65 34.28 243 98.76 0 2 1 20 6 S Dhawan 2013-2017 13 13 1 919 137 76.58 933 98.49 4 4 0 102 11 V Kohli 2013-2017 13 13 4 525 107 58.33 602 87.20 1 3 1 46 6 AM Rahane 2015-2015 4 4 0 137 79 34.25 163 84.04 0 1 1 11 3 RG Sharma 2013-2017 13 13 0 414 91 31.84 546 75.82 0 4 2 40 9 Cricket_Nostradamus 1 Link to comment
jusarrived Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 I will be worried if he scores as we tend to lose more than win . Against good teams he will either screw us badly by batting selfishly or getting out cheaply . So the answer is No Link to comment
Nikola Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 17 minutes ago, zen said: His record does not correspond to that. Note even Kenya made it to SF. No one in his right frame of mind will cite two innings against a minor team in a sample size of 13, the most number of games Ind played in the period .... Need to keep fanboyism out Only Australia deserves to be included in the filter list and i will do that for you. If you are including England, Chokers, New Zealand then give me reason why? all are pretty avg teams in icc tournaments. If you include england in your filters then include bangladesh too cause they have beaten them twice in last 2 worldcups and made to worldcup quarterfinal which england didn't manage to do it. Cricket_Nostradamus 1 Link to comment
zen Posted April 22, 2019 Author Share Posted April 22, 2019 1 minute ago, jusarrived said: I will be worried if he scores as we tend to lose more than win . Against good teams he will either screw us badly by batting selfishly or getting out cheaply . So the answer is No even when he scores 75+ innings, his SR was still poor View overall figures [change view] Primary team India Opposition team Australia or England or New Zealand or Pakistan or South Africa or Sri Lanka or West Indies Start of match date greater than or equal to 1 Jan 2013 Trophy Benson & Hedges World Championship of Cricket or ICC Champions Trophy (ICC KnockOut) or MRF World Series (Nehru Cup) or World Cup Runs scored greater than or equal to 75 Ordered by batting strike rate (descending) Page 1 of 1 Showing 1 - 5 of 5 First Previous Next Last Return to query menu Cleared query menu Overall figures Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s HH Pandya 2017-2017 1 1 0 76 76 76.00 43 176.74 0 1 0 4 6 AM Rahane 2015-2015 1 1 0 79 79 79.00 60 131.66 0 1 0 7 3 S Dhawan 2013-2017 5 5 1 556 137 139.00 558 99.64 4 1 0 65 6 V Kohli 2015-2017 3 3 2 264 107 264.00 295 89.49 1 2 0 21 4 RG Sharma 2017-2017 2 2 0 169 91 84.50 198 85.35 0 2 0 13 5 Stan AF and Cricket_Nostradamus 2 Link to comment
putrevus Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 ^^^Either you are slow or you have no clue about the game. I don't have to dream, Rohit is and has been one of the best LOI batsmen in last 6 years.He is better than all the nonsense you posted.He will be one of the key batsman for India again in this world cup . Stan AF 1 Link to comment
zen Posted April 22, 2019 Author Share Posted April 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, Nikola said: Only Australia deserves to be included in the filter list and i will do that for you. If you are including England, Chokers, New Zealand then give me reason why? all are pretty avg teams in icc tournaments. If you include england in your filters then include bangladesh too cause they have beaten them twice in last 2 worldcups and made to worldcup quarterfinal which england didn't manage to do it. No fanboy of any cricketer has worked so hard to include BD Cricket_Nostradamus 1 Link to comment
putrevus Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Steve Smith is not a better ODI batsman than Kohli just because he has a hundred in world cup semi finals.Sharma does not become a crappy batsman just because he flopped against some teams in world cup or any ICC tournament. Link to comment
zen Posted April 22, 2019 Author Share Posted April 22, 2019 6 minutes ago, putrevus said: ^^^Either you are slow or you have no clue about the game. I don't have to dream, Rohit is and has been one of the best LOI batsmen in last 6 years.He is better than all the nonsense you posted.He will be one of the key batsman for India again in this world cup . We are talking about ICC events, where Rohit has yet to perform like a key batsman vs major teams. Not some random bilaterals, if you claim to know the difference If Rohit does well, I will be happy. But appears as if even his fanboys do not have that confidence Cricket_Nostradamus and Stan AF 2 Link to comment
Nikola Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 (edited) 49 minutes ago, zen said: No fanboy of any cricketer has worked so hard to include BD sorry but got no time to debate with you. Edited April 22, 2019 by beetle Cricket_Nostradamus 1 Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Based on this analysis Tendulkar should never play World Cup finals as he tends to suck in finals. Rohit is the best Indian batsman against Australia in Indian history. Link to comment
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