Hats off to Delhi think tank!!!

[asterix]

Zak was made a captain by Dravid for a reason. On the basis of being a captain he can play this farewell IPL series... else It'll be difficult to justify Zak's place in the playing IX...

[DDfan2017]

8 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said:

Somehow I don't see Zaheer deserving a spot ahead of Shami or Nadeem. Zak is done and he should be a bowling coach/mentor for Delhi.

That's because of our mindset that a 37+ fast bowler retired from international cricket can't play cricket anymore. But he is definitely bowling very well in poweplay. And looked much better than Shami in last game. Today also, he bowled reasonably well for first 3 overs.

Edited April 19, 2017 by DDfan2017

[Cricketics]

21 minutes ago, DDfan2017 said:

Forget Somalia cricket. My 7 years old nephew said, "If I were the Delhi captain, I would haven't sent Mathews ahead of Morris.

Both should have been ahead of Nair, how about that? I know its an Indian Premier league but its a team game first and both Matthews and Morris are better players than Nair. 

[DDfan2017]

4 minutes ago, asterix said:

Zak was made a captain by Dravid for a reason. On the basis of being a captain he can play this farewell IPL series... else It'll be difficult to justify Zak's place in the playing IX...

The way he has bowled so far with the new ball, his place should be justified. Reducing in form KKR top order to 21/3 can't be ignored. Thereafter it was Shami and Mishra's inability to either take wickets or stop runs that took the game away from DD.

[DDfan2017]

7 minutes ago, Cricketics said:

Both should have been ahead of Nair, how about that? I know its an Indian Premier league but its a team game first and both Matthews and Morris are better players than Nair. 

Nair shouldn't be in the playing XI in the first place. His score of 33 off 23 may not look bad, but if we consider the boundaries he hit, he should have had much better strike rate today. Leave the runs scored from boundaries aside, he made 7 off remaining 17 deliveries. Now playing more than 10 dot balls off 23 balls faced is suicidal.

Edited April 19, 2017 by DDfan2017

[Ultimate_Game]

8 minutes ago, DDfan2017 said:

That's because of our mindset that a 37+ fast bowler retired from international cricket can't play cricket anymore. But he is definitely bowling very well in poweplay. And looked much better than Shami in last game. Today also, he bowled reasonably well for first 3 overs.

He's not the same old Zak. Nothing to do with being 37 year old. Nehra is pretty old too but I liked his bowling more than Zak. There's no way Zak we are seeing these days is better than a fully fit Shami or even Nadeem for that matter.

[Cricketics]

1 minute ago, DDfan2017 said:

Nair shouldn't be in the playing XI in the first place. His score of 33 off 23 may not look bad, but if we consider the boundaries he hit, he should have had much better strike rate today. Leave the runs scored from boundaries aside, he made 7 off remaining 17 deliveries. Now playing more than 10 dot balls off 23 balls faced is suicidal.

Hence I say it is easy to criticize Matthews but he actually tried hitting every ball bit last over was just too good from Kaul sincr he bowlrd yorkers, yes ideally Morris should have come ahead of him but then both him and Morris should have batted higher than some of oter Indian bats like Nair.

 

We need to just have Pant come in early or even have Iyer bat first down. And Mattews or Corey who ever is playing between the two come at three or depending on the situation come in early. 

[DDfan2017]

23 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said:

He's not the same old Zak. Nothing to do with being 37 year old. Nehra is pretty old too but I liked his bowling more than Zak. There's no way Zak we are seeing these days is better than a fully fit Shami or even Nadeem for that matter.

Can't bring Nadeem in comparison. He has been the best, still underrated, bowler of DD for many years. He must play at any cost.

Comparing with Shami or Nehra, Zaheer has looked much better. Alhough lost his pace, still has a great control over his bowling. And that's evident from his economy this year. And has taken early wickets too.

Edited April 19, 2017 by DDfan2017

[Ultimate_Game]

11 minutes ago, DDfan2017 said:

The way he has bowled so far with the new ball, his place should be justified. Reducing in form KKR top order to 21/3 can't be ignored. Thereafter it was Shami and Mishra's inability to either take wickets or stop runs that took the game away from DD.

But Shami hasn't played a game so far for Delhi  

[PBN]

if you guys recall from last season, that was the mother of all tactics chosen by Delhi. They opted for the 'horses for courses' strategy in changing and chopping players almost each game and eventually missed the playoffs despite taking a huge lead in the first half of the season.  Doing this can hamper team building, momentum, and confidence of the players.  It's like the think tank is overthinking at times.

[Ultimate_Game]

Just now, PBN said:

if you guys recall from last season, that was the mother of all tactics chosen by Delhi. They opted for the 'horses for courses' strategy in changing and chopping players almost each game and eventually missed the playoffs despite taking a huge lead in the first half of the season.  Doing this can hamper team building, momentum, and confidence of the players.  It's like the think tank is overthinking at times.

Was Dravid around last year for Delhi coz this does sound something Dravid would do  

[DDfan2017]

4 minutes ago, Cricketics said:

Hence I say it is easy to criticize Matthews but he actually tried hitting every ball bit last over was just too good from Kaul sincr he bowlrd yorkers, yes ideally Morris should have come ahead of him but then both him and Morris should have batted higher than some of oter Indian bats like Nair.

 

We need to just have Pant come in early or even have Iyer bat first down. And Mattews or Corey who ever is playing between the two come at three or depending on the situation come in early. 

No point trying to hit every ball in the last over when match was already lost. He missed lots of loose balls in the earlier overs. You can't justify 10 off 9 or 13 off 12 after 17 overs when reqd rate already got 13 2 overs back. DD lost the match between 14th and 18th over, particularly the Henriques, Bhuvi's 3rd and Siraz's over, when Mathews scored run a ball to reach 13 off 12.

[PBN]

7 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said:

Was Dravid around last year for Delhi coz this does sound something Dravid would do  

yeah Dravid was appointed as one of the mentors I think and probably the reason why Delhi had a few u19 players and upcoming talent drafted in the team considering he's the u19 coach. Last year, the staff was the old Rajasthan Royals combo of Paddy Upton / Dravid if I'm not mistaken

Edited April 19, 2017 by PBN

[DDfan2017]

8 minutes ago, PBN said:

if you guys recall from last season, that was the mother of all tactics chosen by Delhi. They opted for the 'horses for courses' strategy in changing and chopping players almost each game and eventually missed the playoffs despite taking a huge lead in the first half of the season.  Doing this can hamper team building, momentum, and confidence of the players.  It's like the think tank is overthinking at times.

DD has always been doing this, even when they had Kedar Jadhav. All top order batsmen spoiled the innings and it was left to duminy and Jadhav often batting at 6 & 7 doing recovery in last 4 overs.. this was the story of every match.

[Laaloo]

1 minute ago, DDfan2017 said:

DD has always been doing this, even when they had Kedar Jadhav. All top order batsmen spoiled the innings and it was left to duminy and Jadhav often batting at 6 & 7 doing recovery in last 4 overs.. this was the story of every match.

Even mumbai did the same. There were power hitters way down the order who were left with so much to do.

[DDfan2017]

13 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said:

But Shami hasn't played a game so far for Delhi  

Who replaced Nadeem then against KKR?? And who has been replaced by Jayant today?

[Pollack]

1 minute ago, laaloo said:

Even mumbai did the same. There were power hitters way down the order who were left with so much to do.

Reminded me the final with CSK which we lost because Pollard was send too late with too much to pull off and still he was giving scares to CSK.

[DDfan2017]

1 hour ago, asterix said:

Just checked the scorecard... Zak Bowled full quota and Mathooz bowled 1 over short. Between them 7 overs they conceded 78 runs for 0 wickets...

Jayant only got 2 overs...

 

IMO Zak is being a liability here... can have both Zak & Mathooz playing together.

Zak won't seem to be a liability if he had bowled his full quota earlier, and leave it to Cummins and Morris bowl in death overs. Poor figure of Zak is only beacuse of the last over. He made the same mistake in the last match, there was no one to bowl last over and Mishra had to do the honour. Zak being the captain should calculate it accordingly so that Cummins and Morris always bowl the 19th and 20th over like Bhuvi always does for SRH or Malinga for MI. Otherwise DD will always be facing 10-15 runs more than it should have been.

[DDfan2017]

1 hour ago, Ultimate_Game said:

No we don't need him to raise the tempo for Team India. he can do so for Mumbai  

 

If we have him in the team as well how the hell are we gonna win a match with a middle order comprising Rahane, Yuvraj and Rayudu?  

Rayudu deserves way more than Rahane or Yuvi. No need to have these two.

Rohit, Pant, Kohli, Manish, Rayudu, Kedar, Hardik, Bhuvi, Chahal/Axar, Shami, Bumrah- this should be the ideal XI if Rahul is unfit. If Rahul is fit, he may replace Rayudu and open the innings with Pant playing the role of finisher along with Jadhav. Failure of Jadhav can bring in Rayudu. 

But No Rahane, Yuvi, Dhoni, Ashwin and Jadeja in ODIs..

[Ultimate_Game]

2 minutes ago, DDfan2017 said:

Rayudu deserves way more than Rahane or Yuvi. No need to have these two.

Rohit, Pant, Kohli, Manish, Rayudu, Kedar, Hardik, Bhuvi, Chahal/Axar, Shami, Bumrah- this should be the ideal XI if Rahul is unfit. If Rahul is fit, he may replace Rayudu and open the innings with Pant playing the role of finisher along with Jadhav. Failure of Jadhav can bring in Rayudu. 

But No Rahane, Yuvi, Dhoni, Ashwin and Jadeja in ODIs..

Why no Ashwin or Jadeja? And why Rayudu? Suely KL Rahul is ahead and even Iyer or Dhawan should be ahead of him. I would even take Nitish Rana ahead of Rayudu.