Asim Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 1 hour ago, sandeep said: Why not play both? Pak lacks in genuine batting options + already have additional bowling options... even Malik can bowl reasonable Link to comment
WeStMiDz Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 England are not a SA or Australia who can be stifled by spin in the middle overs, their record against spin post WC2015 must be one of the better ones. Link to comment
Asim Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, sandeep said: Of course, if you are buying before the tournament starts, its a good bet that SA and India would beat the 2 paltoo teams, and Ind-SA could go SA's way. chalo Enjoy Pak match now Link to comment
bleaf27 Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Fakhar does look like someone with a fluid strokeplay though , that kid has some potential Link to comment
sandeep Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 4 minutes ago, Asim said: chalo Enjoy Pak match now Of course I will. Qaafi entertaining khelte hain. Any minute there can be a LOL-wa moment. Adi_91 1 Link to comment
sandeep Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 8 minutes ago, Asim said: Pak lacks in genuine batting options + already have additional bowling options... even Malik can bowl reasonable Pak needs to play Shadab against England. Need to fit him in. And needs to lengthen the batting lineup. I would bench Junaid and play Faheem as 3rd pacer. Bring in the extra batsman. Get Imad out since you will have Shadab + Hafeez and Shoaib for spin. Link to comment
Pollack Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 1 minute ago, Asim said: Eng dropping Roy for Bairstow If its true sensible decision. Bairstow is 50 times the batsman Roy is. Link to comment
sandeep Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 20 minutes ago, Asim said: Eng dropping Roy for Bairstow Says who? Phateechar news? Or this guy? Link to comment
Autonomous Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 48 minutes ago, Asim said: Dropping Azhar Ali can be a risk... Yeah he is slow but at least do ensure staying at wicket for a while... (I feel they wont include Haris now anyways) What is the point of staying on the wicket? Wasn't test championship scrapped by ICC? Link to comment
Yoda-esque Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Pak has to bat first..A total near 270 or thereabouts and I think they just might have a chance. Link to comment
Autonomous Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, sandeep said: Just who are these budding superstars that are being kept out? I don't buy it. I have yet to see a bonafide top drawer batting prospect from Pakistan in the last 10 years. A guy who can really bat with proper technique and authority against quality bowling and score at a reasonable rate in white ball cricket. Even Babar Azam, who to be fair, comes close to that, is a soft dismissal specialist. You guys have no choice but to keep these 2 dinosaurs in your team. In fact, Shoaib is the best ODI batsman in that unit. . @sandeep Hussain Tallat, Aamir Yamin, Please follow recent domestic list A Performance. Fakhar Zaman was at his peak in 2013, And he makes his debut for Pakistan in 2017, Likes of Hafeez, Azhar, Younis Khan have opened for Pakistan between these years heck even Imran Farhat. And you Can't say we caNnot get better ODI players than loosers like farhat, Hafeez and co Edited June 13, 2017 by Autonomous Link to comment
sandeep Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 6 minutes ago, Autonomous said: @sandeep Hussain Tallat, Aamir Yamin, Please follow recent domestic list A Performance. Fakhar Zaman was at his peak in 2013, And he makes his debut for Pakistan in 2017, Likes of Hafeez, Azhar, Younis Khan have opened for Pakistan between these years heck even Imran Farhat. And you Can't say we caNnot get better ODI players than loosers like farhat, Hafeez and co I'm sorry, Pak domestic performances can't be taken as indicator of international quality. I don't want to get into the reasons since I'm sure you would know them already. And Fakhar Zaman, good for him that he's scored a few runs, but he's not international class. Why are Pakistanis always ready to believe that those who are not in the team are automatic superstars? Maybe the reason you keep selecting incompetent old players, is because the others are equally bad? Link to comment
PBN Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 pak's bowling has been working esp the pacers. though they have won chasing..they'll be tested if put into bat first Link to comment
Ultimate_Game Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 1 minute ago, PBN said: pak's bowling has been working esp the pacers. though they have won chasing..they'll be tested if put into bat first Actually I would put it the other way. They haven't "won" while chasing, they stumbled and fell across the line Against SA they were lucky the rain arrived and they won due to D/L. Do you really imagine it would've been easy for Pak to reach 220 when they were 110 odd for 3 against the likes of Morkel, Rabada, Tahir and company? IMO ABDV erred by not bowling his main bowlers more as if he was thinking the match would go complete 50 overs when the forecast was clear about rain curtailing the match. As for the match against SL we all saw what happened From 100 odd for 1 they sumbled to 160 odd for 7! And that to against a bowling lineup with 3 bowlers!!! If SL had taken any of their 5 chances or managed 1 of the numerous runouts it would've been a different story. So I think batting first against Pakistan and asking them to chase is the best option coz their batsmen can't handle pressure of the chase. Link to comment
PBN Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 1 minute ago, Ultimate_Game said: Actually I would put it the other way. They haven't "won" while chasing, they stumbled and fell across the line Against SA they were lucky the rain arrived and they won due to D/L. Do you really imagine it would've been easy for Pak to reach 220 when they were 110 odd for 3 against the likes of Morkel, Rabada, Tahir and company? IMO ABDV erred by not bowling his main bowlers more as if he was thinking the match would go complete 50 overs when the forecast was clear about rain curtailing the match. As for the match against SL we all saw what happened From 100 odd for 1 they sumbled to 160 odd for 7! And that to against a bowling lineup with 3 bowlers!!! If SL had taken any of their 5 chances or managed 1 of the numerous runouts it would've been a different story. So I think batting first against Pakistan and asking them to chase is the best option coz their batsmen can't handle pressure of the chase. yeah though unless you put up 320+, chasing teams have had an advantage so far. win toss and chase has been the motto for the last few games. pak's best chance is to let the opposition bat first and restrict them to below 250. if they bat first, game could be over in the first innings itself. you can say they've been winning without their batting clicking at all Link to comment
Ultimate_Game Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 5 minutes ago, PBN said: yeah though unless you put up 320+, chasing teams have had an advantage so far. win toss and chase has been the motto for the last few games. pak's best chance is to let the opposition bat first and restrict them to below 250. if they bat first, game could be over in the first innings itself. you can say they've been winning without their batting clicking at all Against Pakistan I would say put up 260-280 on board and watch them struggle. Batting first gives their batting midgets to bat without pressure which may help them so batting first against Pakistan is a much better option. PBN 1 Link to comment
bleaf27 Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 If Pakistan bats first its pretty much game over for them - No way they would be able to set an imposing total for England. The only chance for Pakistan would be to chase anything under 250 Link to comment
Asim Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Pak have no chances if they bat 2nd or if eng bowl first... Link to comment
Ultimate_Game Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 3 minutes ago, Asim said: Pak have no chances if they bat 2nd or if eng bowl first... I would give them a chance if they bat first coz runs on the board always mean something. But if Eng bat first and score more than 260 I would back England. Link to comment
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