bleaf27 Posted June 15, 2017 Posted June 15, 2017 5 minutes ago, express bowling said: Decisions regarding batting are not taken based on one match. Pandya bowled well against Pakistan and South Africa.... so, in 2 out of 4 matches. Pandya bowled 10 overs for 52 runs for 1 wicket against SA - how is that good ? He had the highest RPO for all the bowlers while bowling with no field restrictions ! Against Sri lanka - 7 overs for 51 runs - 0 Wickets.
Ultimate_Game Posted June 15, 2017 Posted June 15, 2017 One more thing in favor of Pandya - he has one well against Pakistan. In Asia Cup he picked up 3/10 or some such and in the opening game he picked up 2 wkts. IMO he's a must against Pakistan
StriKe Posted June 15, 2017 Posted June 15, 2017 Everyone spam tweet to Kohli to drop Ashwin and play Shami in finals
express bowling Posted June 15, 2017 Posted June 15, 2017 (edited) 7 minutes ago, bleaf27 said: Pandya bowled 10 overs for 52 runs for 1 wicket against SA - how is that good ? He had the highest RPO for all the bowlers while bowling with no field restrictions ! Against Sri lanka - 7 overs for 51 runs - 0 Wickets. ER of 5.2 with 1 wicket is quite good for an all-rounder Pandya also had an ER of just 5.3 with 2 wickets against Pakistan... which is good So, 2 good matches as a bowler out of 4..... which is acceptable for an allrounder who can hit big shots at a very high SR. Edited June 15, 2017 by express bowling
putrevus Posted June 15, 2017 Posted June 15, 2017 Same side should be playing unless the pitch suggests otherwise.
bleaf27 Posted June 15, 2017 Posted June 15, 2017 2 minutes ago, express bowling said: ER of 5.2 with 1 wicket is quite good for an all-rounder Pandya also had an ER of just 5.3 with 2 wickets against Pakistan... which is good So, 2 good matches as a bowler out of 4..... which is acceptable for an allrounder who can hit big shots at a very high SR. Again , Pandya cannot be given more leaverage just because he is an all rounder. If we didn't have a better option than Pandya then this would apply but if Pandya is blocking Umesh/Shami who are specialist bowlers and are strike bowlers why settle for Pandya ? I rather have 10 overs with 4 or less RPO from Umesh/Shami and 2-3 wickets than Pandya with 5.2 RPO with 1 wicket so it isn't 2 but 1 out of 4.
Sgattick10 Posted June 15, 2017 Posted June 15, 2017 Umesh in place of Ashwin. Shami hasn't played any match so won't risk him.
express bowling Posted June 15, 2017 Posted June 15, 2017 42 minutes ago, bleaf27 said: Again , Pandya cannot be given more leaverage just because he is an all rounder. If we didn't have a better option than Pandya then this would apply but if Pandya is blocking Umesh/Shami who are specialist bowlers and are strike bowlers why settle for Pandya ? I rather have 10 overs with 4 or less RPO from Umesh/Shami and 2-3 wickets than Pandya with 5.2 RPO with 1 wicket so it isn't 2 but 1 out of 4. Teams always feel comfortable playing with 7 batsmen in ODIs. Rarely have I seen a team play 6 batsmen. The 5th bowler has to be an all-rounder.
bleaf27 Posted June 15, 2017 Posted June 15, 2017 Just now, express bowling said: Teams always feel comfortable playing with 7 batsmen in ODIs. Rarely have I seen a team play 6 batsmen. The 5th bowler has to be an all-rounder. Rohit , Dhawan , Kohli , Yuvi , Jadhav and Dhoni , Jadeja - 7 bats Bhu / Bumrah/ Ashwin / Shami
Ankit_sharma03 Posted June 15, 2017 Posted June 15, 2017 Pakistan strength is bowling so we need strength in batting , need pandya for sure New guy and Ultimate_Game 2
Ankit_sharma03 Posted June 15, 2017 Posted June 15, 2017 4 minutes ago, bleaf27 said: Rohit , Dhawan , Kohli , Yuvi , Jadhav and Dhoni , Jadeja - 7 bats Bhu / Bumrah/ Ashwin / Shami Jadeja as batsman have been a failed experiment of decade in LOI express bowling and Mosher 2
express bowling Posted June 15, 2017 Posted June 15, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, bleaf27 said: Rohit , Dhawan , Kohli , Yuvi , Jadhav and Dhoni , Jadeja - 7 bats Bhu / Bumrah/ Ashwin / Shami Jadeja is NOT a batsman in ODIs He has a SR of 85 batting at No.7 most of his life and sometimes lower.... and that is poorer than poor A batsman at No.7 means a really high SR one..... someone with a SR of 125+ like Pandya Edited June 15, 2017 by express bowling Ankit_sharma03 and Mosher 2
Ankit_sharma03 Posted June 15, 2017 Posted June 15, 2017 Also with yuvi , jadhav n ashwin in side....u cant take out a good fielder like pandya n add someone one like shami who is coming from injury People here are tooo harsh on pandya n without any sense , he goes for runs take him out Well he aint a bowler 1st Even main bowlers go for heavy runs these days, look at fizz today saara fizz nikal gaya Pandya is an all rounder who adds a lot to this team Sgattick10, King Tendulkar, Ultimate_Game and 2 others 5
bleaf27 Posted June 15, 2017 Posted June 15, 2017 1 minute ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: Jadeja as batsman have been a failed experiment of decade in LOI for the team composition , if Pandya is to be left out , there isn't another choice
bleaf27 Posted June 15, 2017 Posted June 15, 2017 Just now, express bowling said: Jadeja is NOT batsman in ODIs He has a SR of 85 batting at No.7 most of his life.... and that is poorer than poor A batsman at No.7 means a really high SR one. Pandya is no better a batsman than Jadeja ...he is as limited
Ankit_sharma03 Posted June 15, 2017 Posted June 15, 2017 53 minutes ago, bleaf27 said: Again , Pandya cannot be given more leaverage just because he is an all rounder. If we didn't have a better option than Pandya then this would apply but if Pandya is blocking Umesh/Shami who are specialist bowlers and are strike bowlers why settle for Pandya ? I rather have 10 overs with 4 or less RPO from Umesh/Shami and 2-3 wickets than Pandya with 5.2 RPO with 1 wicket so it isn't 2 but 1 out of 4. Ur expecting umesh to go at less runs, umesh can fall on any side....the minute u start taking on he looses the plot and can give a lot of runs Ultimate_Game and New guy 2
Ankit_sharma03 Posted June 15, 2017 Posted June 15, 2017 1 minute ago, bleaf27 said: Pandya is no better a batsman than Jadeja ...he is as limited At 7 u only shud have one quality hitting the ball and Pandya is one the best hitters in the country ...... Comparison btw his n jadeja batting is most bizzare thing i have heard Ultimate_Game and express bowling 2
express bowling Posted June 15, 2017 Posted June 15, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, bleaf27 said: Pandya is no better a batsman than Jadeja ...he is as limited That is grossly incorrect. Pandya just played an innings of 80 off 55 in a practice match and that showcases his batting ability. Never seen Jadeja play such innings in 50 over matches. Pandya's SR of 130 and average of 47 in 10 ODIs showcases his batting ability too. Jadeja has a SR of 85. Edited June 15, 2017 by express bowling Ankit_sharma03, Ultimate_Game and zen 3
Ultimate_Game Posted June 15, 2017 Posted June 15, 2017 6 minutes ago, bleaf27 said: Pandya is no better a batsman than Jadeja ...he is as limited Disagree. Jadeja is nowhere close to Pandya as a batsman and as a hitter in shorter formats. It's not even a close comparison. express bowling and zen 2
bleaf27 Posted June 15, 2017 Posted June 15, 2017 4 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: At 7 u only shud have one quality hitting the ball and Pandya is one the best hitters in the country ...... Comparison btw his n jadeja batting is most bizzare thing i have heard Pandya is one of the best hitters ? Dude get off the IPL train......every single person hits in that including Samson , Pant , Raina , Other Pandya , Manish Pandey .. . Pandya with such limited batting innings in ODI is the best hitter is absurd
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