Trichromatic Posted January 20, 2019 Author Share Posted January 20, 2019 Just now, bahubali said: ..velu I can sense you are getting older like it Malik. Please don't post in this thread if you can't stick to this topic and avoid personal remarks. Link to comment
Nonbeliever Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, zen said: I have not followed the discussion, but FYI Kohli is also ahead when batting first vs the top 7 teams Tendulkar Records type batting analysis [change type] View career summary [change view] Opposition team Australia or England or New Zealand or Pakistan or South Africa or Sri Lanka or West Indies Batting or fielding first batting first Ordered by default (ascending) Return to query menu Cleared query menu Career averages Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s unfiltered 1989-2012 463 452 41 18426 200* 44.83 21367 86.23 49 96 20 2016 195 Profile filtered 1990-2012 192 191 13 8208 200* 46.11 9879 83.08 27 37 5 842 82 Kohli Records type batting analysis [change type] View career summary [change view] Opposition team Australia or England or New Zealand or Pakistan or South Africa or Sri Lanka or West Indies Batting or fielding first batting first Ordered by default (ascending) Return to query menu Cleared query menu Career averages Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s unfiltered 2008-2019 219 211 37 10385 183 59.68 11198 92.73 39 48 12 970 113 Profile filtered 2008-2018 83 82 7 3811 160* 50.81 4204 90.65 14 19 7 317 38 And Innings per 100 U think scoring a hundred is important than wining mom. Edited January 20, 2019 by Nonbeliever Link to comment
velu Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 Just now, Nonbeliever said: U think scoring a hundred is important than wining mom. Lol kohli is ahead of sachin in that department as well Link to comment
velu Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, zen said: I have not followed the discussion, but FYI Kohli is also ahead when batting first vs the top 7 teams Tendulkar Records type batting analysis [change type] View career summary [change view] Opposition team Australia or England or New Zealand or Pakistan or South Africa or Sri Lanka or West Indies Batting or fielding first batting first Ordered by default (ascending) Return to query menu Cleared query menu Career averages Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s unfiltered 1989-2012 463 452 41 18426 200* 44.83 21367 86.23 49 96 20 2016 195 Profile filtered 1990-2012 192 191 13 8208 200* 46.11 9879 83.08 27 37 5 842 82 Kohli Records type batting analysis [change type] View career summary [change view] Opposition team Australia or England or New Zealand or Pakistan or South Africa or Sri Lanka or West Indies Batting or fielding first batting first Ordered by default (ascending) Return to query menu Cleared query menu Career averages Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s unfiltered 2008-2019 219 211 37 10385 183 59.68 11198 92.73 39 48 12 970 113 Profile filtered 2008-2018 83 82 7 3811 160* 50.81 4204 90.65 14 19 7 317 38 And Innings per 100 trichi is considering the stats from 2001 only zen 1 Link to comment
zen Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Nonbeliever said: U think scoring a hundred is important than wining mom. Of course, esp in games won. You can get MoM also for losing a game. And MoM can depend upon various factors for e.g. batsman a scores a 100, while in the same game, bowler b gets 3-4 wkts, and can be given MoM .... And 100s scored and 5-er taken are mentioned when a player walks in to bat or bowl. In LOIs, as I said, 1-2 players can change the game on their own. hitting 100s and picking up 4-5 wkts is the way to change the game Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted January 20, 2019 Author Share Posted January 20, 2019 Hashim Amla Breaks Virat Kohli's Record With 27th ODI Hundred Quote The 35-year-old batsman scored 27 ODI centuries in 167 innings, while the Indian skipper had taken 169 innings to reach the mark. Even though Hashim Amla's unbeaten 108-run knock went in vain and South Africa lost the opening match by five wickets, it has exhibited how prepared the team is for the forthcoming ICC World Cup. Yet another example showing how much centuries and centuries per inning are inflated this decade and doesn't necessarily mean equivalent inflation in quality. Nonbeliever 1 Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted January 20, 2019 Author Share Posted January 20, 2019 10 minutes ago, bahubali said: Sure I'll but I would appreciate if u preach same to others where people are bringing family member in discussion.. BTW as velu has habbit to drag Sachin everywhere so I was just using his parlance. And in that case you're suppose to report the post. Please go through rules of site, if you haven't already. I would suggest avoiding posting on forum before reading and understanding those since you're a new member. Link to comment
zen Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 12 minutes ago, velu said: trichi is considering the stats from 2001 only In 2001, Tendulkar was the premier ODI batsman for Ind. If we consider the time from when Kohli became Ind's premier batsman too, I guess, Kohli would be ahead esp vs the top 7 teams velu 1 Link to comment
bahubali Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, Trichromatic said: And in that case you're suppose to report the post. Please go through rules of site, if you haven't already. I would suggest avoiding posting on forum before reading and understanding those since you're a new member. Ok boss. Link to comment
velu Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 18 minutes ago, Trichromatic said: Hashim Amla Breaks Virat Kohli's Record With 27th ODI Hundred Yet another example showing how much centuries and centuries per inning are inflated this decade and doesn't necessarily mean equivalent inflation in quality. we have to agree amla is also as good as kohli if not better , rather than undermining kohli here .. Link to comment
bahubali Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 1 minute ago, velu said: we have to agree amla is also as good as kohli if not better , rather than undermining kohli here .. From the stats it seems he is better than kohli also we can compare these 2 as both are peers. Link to comment
zen Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 Guys, who batted in top 3 since Tendulkar's debut vs 7 top teams. This would include Tendulkar's best phase vs some of the others velu 1 Link to comment
zen Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 (edited) 17 minutes ago, velu said: we have to agree amla is also as good as kohli if not better , rather than undermining kohli here .. To this point, Kohli has a lower innings per 100 number though (here, lower = better) Edited January 20, 2019 by zen velu 1 Link to comment
velu Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 (edited) 16 minutes ago, bahubali said: From the stats it seems he is better than kohli also we can compare these 2 as both are peers. but kohli has far superior average edit:- kohli 5.4 per 100 amla 6.2 per 100 Edited January 20, 2019 by velu Link to comment
bahubali Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, velu said: but kohli has far superior average edit:- kohli 5.4 per 100 amla 6.2 per 100 May be due to lot of not out . You can clearly see he has scored 27 the centuries in less matches also he had broken all 2k, 3k,--- 5k records of kohli in lesser inning. All I want to say is in this era you see every team has atleast one batsmen around 50 AVG or hovering around same.Its damn easy erabto have 50 AVG score. Damn even Rohit who have so much of issue with moving ball and who had 30 AVG in his first 80 matches is now averaging 48 and if you only consider his opening AVG it's beyond 50. This era is the easiest era in loi atleast. Edited January 20, 2019 by bahubali velu and Nonbeliever 2 Link to comment
velu Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 9 minutes ago, bahubali said: May be due to lot of not out . You can clearly see he has scored 27 the centuries in less matches also he had broken all 2k, 3k,--- 5k records of kohli in lesser inning. All I want to say is in this era you see every team has atleast one batsmen around 50 AVG or hovering around same.Its damn easy erabto have 50 AVG score. Damn even Rohit who have so much of issue with moving ball and who had 30 AVG in his first 80 matches is now averaging 48 and if you only consider his opening AVG it's beyond 50. This era is the easiest era in loi atleast. if the difference is minimal , we can take anyone .. cant blame kohli for his not outs , he wont gift his wicket , bowlers need to take it .. obviously batting averages have gone up , but again batsmen in ODIs too are getting better because of T20s it is easier to score freenly in the powerplays by going aerial , it took batsmen to figure out till lankans popularized it .. for me in ODIs:- viv in 1980s has no competition sachin in 90s and early 20s .. but lara , waugh and ponting were closer to him kohli is well ahead of his peers .. only competition being abdv overall if we comapre just kohli and sachin , i would give it to kohli .. he can grind it out with his sheer will better than sachin bahubali 1 Link to comment
bahubali Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 22 minutes ago, velu said: if the difference is minimal , we can take anyone .. cant blame kohli for his not outs , he wont gift his wicket , bowlers need to take it .. obviously batting averages have gone up , but again batsmen in ODIs too are getting better because of T20s it is easier to score freenly in the powerplays by going aerial , it took batsmen to figure out till lankans popularized it .. for me in ODIs:- viv in 1980s has no competition sachin in 90s and early 20s .. but lara , waugh and ponting were closer to him kohli is well ahead of his peers .. only competition being abdv overall if we comapre just kohli and sachin , i would give it to kohli .. he can grind it out with his sheer will better than sachin And I agree to it kohli is pretty much going to leave everyone behind in odi. He is just one good WC performance away for becoming goat in odi. Link to comment
zen Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 26 minutes ago, velu said: if the difference is minimal , we can take anyone .. cant blame kohli for his not outs , he wont gift his wicket , bowlers need to take it .. obviously batting averages have gone up , but again batsmen in ODIs too are getting better because of T20s it is easier to score freenly in the powerplays by going aerial , it took batsmen to figure out till lankans popularized it .. for me in ODIs:- viv in 1980s has no competition sachin in 90s and early 20s .. but lara , waugh and ponting were closer to him kohli is well ahead of his peers .. only competition being abdv overall if we comapre just kohli and sachin , i would give it to kohli .. he can grind it out with his sheer will better than sachin I would put Richards as the best in LOIs velu 1 Link to comment
zen Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 (edited) Anyways, a part of Sunday got wasted on this Edited January 20, 2019 by zen Stan AF and Switchblade 2 Link to comment
putrevus Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 3 hours ago, Trichromatic said: Batting first Kohli Matches: 91 Runs: 4060 Avg: 49.51 SR: 90.50 100s: 15 SRT played 91 ODIs batting first since 2001, his performance was like: Matches: 91 Runs: 4846 Avg: 58.38 SR: 88.07 100s: 18 What Kohli has been doing batting first now, far better level was easily achieved SRT when he started playing in batting friendly conditions in 2000s. What kind of nonsense is this, you pick the best of Sachin and you include even the matches of Kohli as a debutant. Link to comment
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