Pujara needs to be dropped just for those runouts

[mishra]

^ Agree, has he scored, no one would have touched. But he is Cook type player. Dont expect him to do a KP.

support him as Cook. IIRC his S/R was alllways questioned till Kumble walked in frame and reminded everyone that test cricket is 5 day game and S/R has no meaning. Result, 

Pujara performed under Kimble.

 

Now ,judging by that,  i think Pujara needs help when it cones dealing stress or building confidence

[Ankit_sharma03]

Just now, mishra said:

^ Agree, has he scored, no one would have touched. But he is Cook type player. Dont expect him to do a KP.

support him as Cook. IIRC his S/R was alllways questioned till Kumble walked in frame and reminded everyone that test cricket is 5 day game and S/R has no meaning. Result, 

Pujara performed under Kimble.

 

Now ,judging by that,  i think Pujara needs help when it cones dealing stress or building confidence

i agree,

But cook scores runs n converts them and he punishes poor ball thats why he has made runs all around

Pujara problem was he made 30 in 100 balls n threw his wkts

 

Pujara has only performed in subcontinent (be it under kohli or dhoni)

failed overseas (under dhoni or kohli  n even in county)

 

Not only he has technical issues but psych-logical to and yes insecurity has made it worse

As it was pointed out in commentary that now he is just a front foot player , he doesnt play on backfoot  much

[prasen82]

6 minutes ago, mishra said:

^ Agree, has he scored, no one would have touched. But he is Cook type player. Dont expect him to do a KP.

support him as Cook. IIRC his S/R was alllways questioned till Kumble walked in frame and reminded everyone that test cricket is 5 day game and S/R has no meaning. Result, 

Pujara performed under Kimble.

 

Now ,judging by that,  i think Pujara needs help when it cones dealing stress or building confidence

this is intelligent analysis..

 

why expect pujara to score when the rest are falling like 9 pins. at least he survived 15 overs and that indirectly helped pandya and ashwin to score whatever they scored. if each one did the same the bowlers would have gotten tired. we never lasted so many overs to tire them. overs 60-90 are when you can score and to do that you need to last till 60 overs. we hardly lasted 45 overs and of which pujara took in 15  overs and you wnat to blame him.

 

if we have a sehwag in our ranks then its fine, but sadly we suck with the team composition. pujara and pandya are not the problems. the openers, kdk and rahane are the problem along with one wrong selection per match . 

 

we definitely need pujara and his blockathons . hoping he comes up good. constant choppings are not helping his cause. rahane seems to be confused on his role.

 

 

[mishra]

^ you are talking common sense. Most icfer hate Ravi shashtri but arguing for what Ravi Shashtri wants. 

And support kimble but arguing for exactly opposite of what Kumnle wanted

Edited August 12, 2018 by mishra

[diehardpacer]

Vijay & Rahul are bigger problems than Pujara.Pujara should be opening & not at no.3 .He has opened before.His job is to play the new ball & tire out their bowlers,which is what he was doing.If other batsman had shown that much grit & lasted a session more in each innings,rain could have helped them draw this match.It's frustrating to see them always lose matches & not think about a draw at all.

[kira]

7 hours ago, diehardpacer said:

Vijay & Rahul are bigger problems than Pujara.Pujara should be opening & not at no.3 .He has opened before.His job is to play the new ball & tire out their bowlers,which is what he was doing.If other batsman had shown that much grit & lasted a session more in each innings,rain could have helped them draw this match.It's frustrating to see them always lose matches & not think about a draw at all.

His job isn't just to play out the new ball, and he hasn't tired a single bowler new bowl bowler, his job is to make a big score once he is settled in, I don't care if he scores just 10 runs in 100  balls ( although this is not acceptable in every situation but in swinging conditions I will take it) but once he has played 100 balls I expect him to cash in and score big, atleast a half century is expected, this guy is doing a nightwatchman's job

[WeStMiDz]

Pujara is not the problem right now. He is staying at the wicket doing his thing, batsmen around him should take the initiative to be more attacking. Sadly they cannot last 20 balls. 

 

If we had a team firing on all cylinders, by all means we could then dissect Pujara's game. Currently the need of the hour is someone to stick at the wicket. 

[Ankit_sharma03]

1 hour ago, WeStMiDz said:

Pujara is not the problem right now. He is staying at the wicket doing his thing, batsmen around him should take the initiative to be more attacking. Sadly they cannot last 20 balls. 

 

If we had a team firing on all cylinders, by all means we could then dissect Pujara's game. Currently the need of the hour is someone to stick at the wicket. 

how is scoring under 20 runs is not a problem

at the end he is batsman not tailender,.....his job is to score runs ,. U can play 100 balls n make 20 runs but if u get out thats jst 20 runs. This is acceptable from Ishant sharma not pujara 

[WeStMiDz]

1 hour ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

how is scoring under 20 runs is not a problem

at the end he is batsman not tailender,.....his job is to score runs ,. U can play 100 balls n make 20 runs but if u get out thats jst 20 runs. This is acceptable from Ishant sharma not pujara 

In a team full of problems, he is the lesser problem. 

[Ankit_sharma03]

10 minutes ago, WeStMiDz said:

In a team full of problems, he is the lesser problem. 

he is as bigger problem as anyone

atleast we can say with pandya that he can bowl n field and scoring 20+

pujara is doing none of the job, he is a batsman who is not scoring runs and tht is a problem. His avg is 26 overseas and it is a problem

Not only incoming deilveries but now he is getting run out to so many times 

[WeStMiDz]

5 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

he is as bigger problem as anyone

atleast we can say with pandya that he can bowl n field and scoring 20+

pujara is doing none of the job, he is a batsman who is not scoring runs and tht is a problem. His avg is 26 overseas and it is a problem

Not only incoming deilveries but now he is getting run out to so many times 

Not sure why we are comparing with Pandya. Who is more comfortable at the crease - Vijay, Rahul, Rahane or Pujara? There is your answer as to who are the greater problems. 

[Ankit_sharma03]

23 minutes ago, WeStMiDz said:

Not sure why we are comparing with Pandya. Who is more comfortable at the crease - Vijay, Rahul, Rahane or Pujara? There is your answer as to who are the greater problems. 

none among them ....they all look out of place

Atleast rahane has done well in past in overseas, pujar has been a failure overseas 

 

If u playing as a specialist n making under 20 runs , thats a problem........and specially when the past also doesnt support u 

[diehardpacer]

19 hours ago, kira said:

His job isn't just to play out the new ball, and he hasn't tired a single bowler new bowl bowler, his job is to make a big score once he is settled in, I don't care if he scores just 10 runs in 100  balls ( although this is not acceptable in every situation but in swinging conditions I will take it) but once he has played 100 balls I expect him to cash in and score big, atleast a half century is expected, this guy is doing a nightwatchman's job

Our current openers & middle order batsmen are unable to do even the nightwatchmen's job.I don't like to see Pujara doing tuk tuk in decent flat pitches.But the team needs to understand,if you can't win you look for a draw.And in this match,rain would have helped their cause.Even in the 2007 series,we somehow drew the 1st test due to rain spoiling the last day & managed to win 1,which helped to win the series.In 2014,we win 1,draw 1 & lose the remaining 3 by surrendering in 3 days in each of those matches.Winning more than 2 tests in these conditions is very tough.So,need to be wise in being defensive when conditions don't suit you at all.

If each of Vijay,Rahul,Rahane & DK managed to bat extra 60-70 balls in each innings,they would have batted atleast 60-70 overs after which rain would have saved the match.We need 1 alternative to Pujara who can bat for time & score runs when needed.We can select players from the A team after 3rd test & test a replacement for Pujara.

Right now the remaining 4-5 batsmen are much bigger problems than Pujara. They are neither scoring nor killing time.

[GautiMaan]

Needs to open,that is the only something can be gained out of his blockathons

Edited August 14, 2018 by GautiMaan

[kira]

3 hours ago, diehardpacer said:

Our current openers & middle order batsmen are unable to do even the nightwatchmen's job.I don't like to see Pujara doing tuk tuk in decent flat pitches.But the team needs to understand,if you can't win you look for a draw.And in this match,rain would have helped their cause.Even in the 2007 series,we somehow drew the 1st test due to rain spoiling the last day & managed to win 1,which helped to win the series.In 2014,we win 1,draw 1 & lose the remaining 3 by surrendering in 3 days in each of those matches.Winning more than 2 tests in these conditions is very tough.So,need to be wise in being defensive when conditions don't suit you at all.

If each of Vijay,Rahul,Rahane & DK managed to bat extra 60-70 balls in each innings,they would have batted atleast 60-70 overs after which rain would have saved the match.We need 1 alternative to Pujara who can bat for time & score runs when needed.We can select players from the A team after 3rd test & test a replacement for Pujara.

Right now the remaining 4-5 batsmen are much bigger problems than Pujara. They are neither scoring nor killing time.

Other batsman's failures doesn't justify pujara's place, pujara has a worse average than dhawan overseas, just because other batsmen are failing too right now doesn't mean pujara should keep playing, he is an even bigger failure than other batsmen, stop going by this match or that match, we are not here to draw a match thanks to rain, we should aim to win and dominate, we don't need a nightwatchman as our no. 3, we need a proper batsman who can score big runs once set, pujara is a tailender and needs to be dropped irrespective of how other batsmen play

[rtmohanlal]

the earlier this shameless mediocre selfish  hack gets caught by the collar and get kicked out of the team , the better it is for the team and there by for the millions of cricket lovers across the country. We need a solid player at no:3 some one like Dravid & preferably a left hander.

[WeStMiDz]

9 minutes ago, rtmohanlal said:

the earlier this shameless mediocre selfish  hack gets caught by the collar and get kicked out of the team , the better it is for the team and there by for the millions of cricket lovers across the country. We need a solid player at no:3 some one like Dravid & preferably a left hander.

Yes because there's hundreds of Dravids waiting in domestic cricket. 

[rtmohanlal]

On 8/15/2018 at 2:21 AM, WeStMiDz said:

Yes because there's hundreds of Dravids waiting in domestic cricket. 

first they have to try youngsters at the first place to find out if there are Dravids or not & they are not doing even that. If there can be SRT,Dravid, Laxman,Ganguly,Sehwag,Kohli & Rahane(i rate him very highly because he has been a failure only in ENG)  whom this system could provide , then it can provide more such players too  if  the basic exercise of  providing chances to talented younsters is done.