Shunya Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 8 minutes ago, raki05 said: Can you tell me some of his match winning performance in entire 10 yrs and i can name u al other batters around him who atleast won a match single handadly.people talk abt sachin stretching his career unnecessarly. What crediblity and business dhoni have to be in t20 team at this time, what does he wants to proove. He has been at best around 3rd or 4th best batsman in the side most of his career and also due to playing in lower order. So he fulfills that role as keeper-bat, which is pretty low as per his standard and our expectations. And as I said, he has been good in last couple of years. I dunno what you mean by what does he wants to prove? I guess he is playing cricket like everyone else in the team. Play and win. BTW, I have no issue with him being dropped or others getting a chance as backup. But obviously, our management does not think Pant is in TOP 4 or 5 keepers or else he would have played some games already. Link to comment
Shunya Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 20 minutes ago, Laaloo said: Stop. You're embarrassing yourself. Even dhoni would find it hard to defend himself in t20s. He has been good in last 2 years. What is wrong in that? Link to comment
Laaloo Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 9 minutes ago, Shunya said: He has been good in last 2 years. What is wrong in that? Selective stats. He's good awful in t20s. Look at that SL knock. Rr was 11 and this guy is taking singles and twos. A 12(5) knock would have been better. I guess that's why cricinfo publish a comment 'only Kohli is trying to win the game'. He made some cheap runs against perera when the game was over and now you are shoving stats on me. Dude stop. saik, kira and raki05 1 2 Link to comment
raki05 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 33 minutes ago, Shunya said: He has been at best around 3rd or 4th best batsman in the side most of his career and also due to playing in lower order. So he fulfills that role as keeper-bat, which is pretty low as per his standard and our expectations. And as I said, he has been good in last couple of years. I dunno what you mean by what does he wants to prove? I guess he is playing cricket like everyone else in the team. Play and win. BTW, I have no issue with him being dropped or others getting a chance as backup. But obviously, our management does not think Pant is in TOP 4 or 5 keepers or else he would have played some games already. What was so good abt his last 2 year in t20. Link to comment
Shunya Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 13 minutes ago, Laaloo said: Selective stats. He's good awful in t20s. Look at that SL knock. Rr was 11 and this guy is taking singles and twos. A 12(5) knock would have been better. I guess that's why cricinfo publish a comment 'only Kohli is trying to win the game'. He made some cheap runs against perera when the game was over and now you are shoving stats on me. Dude stop. I think you are talking about Newzealand game http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/18029/scorecard/1120094/india-vs-new-zealand-2nd-t20i-nz-in-ind-2017-18/ Agreed, Dhoni did not play well in that game and most importantly could not support Virat Kohli earlier in the partnership. But just for the record again, we were 67/4 in 10th over and chasing 197, so probably you wanted him to score 20-25 ball 50 at that point and win us the game and he could not do it and end up only 49(37). But if you have to bring it up to prove that Dhoni is the reason for the loss, than I dunno what to say about your bias. And what is this perera thing? Stop this nonsense just to put down Dhoni. Does he decide to play against srilanka? or is it that Kohli, Rohit, Pandya, etc all needs to be dropped because they play Srilanka and scored loads of runs. I am sure its not just perera he scored off in last couple of years, ffs stop lying. Link to comment
Shunya Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 13 minutes ago, raki05 said: What was so good abt his last 2 year in t20. He has played well in last couple of years. His strike rate is higher, plays more attacking cricket instead of taking too long. And WKeeping is awesome as always, no match there. Laaloo, mancalledsting and kira 3 Link to comment
Laaloo Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 8 minutes ago, Shunya said: I think you are talking about Newzealand game http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/18029/scorecard/1120094/india-vs-new-zealand-2nd-t20i-nz-in-ind-2017-18/ Agreed, Dhoni did not play well in that game and most importantly could not support Virat Kohli earlier in the partnership. But just for the record again, we were 67/4 in 10th over and chasing 197, so probably you wanted him to score 20-25 ball 50 at that point and win us the game and he could not do it and end up only 49(37). But if you have to bring it up to prove that Dhoni is the reason for the loss, than I dunno what to say about your bias. And what is this perera thing? Stop this nonsense just to put down Dhoni. Does he decide to play against srilanka? or is it that Kohli, Rohit, Pandya, etc all needs to be dropped because they play Srilanka and scored loads of runs. I am sure its not just perera he scored off in last couple of years, ffs stop lying. I'm not blaming him for the loss but his innings was pathetic. When Kohli was there we had a chance at an improbable win. Dhoni didn't do jackshit when the match was alive. That's dhoni in a nutshell in t20s. How am I lying about perera? Even in that Eden gardens odi, kuldeep Yadav faced more balls against lakmal than dhoni and looked more assured. Dhoni got some cheap runs at the end and viola oh look he's not a ftb. Regarding that t20, I wanted him to do more than 28(28)* at one point. Is that so hard to do when the rrr is more than 12. Show some intent instead of playing for not outs. Tu chamchagiri karta reh. Facts are bitter sorry. mancalledsting 1 Link to comment
Laaloo Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Ffs badrinath has a MOM and yet his chamchas are defending this hasbeen. Shame the standards are so low. Link to comment
mancalledsting Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 (edited) 49 minutes ago, Laaloo said: Selective stats. He's good awful in t20s. Look at that SL knock. Rr was 11 and this guy is taking singles and twos. A 12(5) knock would have been better. I guess that's why cricinfo publish a comment 'only Kohli is trying to win the game'. He made some cheap runs against perera when the game was over and now you are shoving stats on me. Dude stop. if only they inflated India's batting totals by the same factor that Dhoni's average gets inflated by *not outs we would have won all those games Edited January 28, 2018 by mancalledsting Link to comment
mancalledsting Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Raina deserved a recall........he's back and playing for CSK. Can't wait to see Dhoni-Rainaaah combination in full flow again...reminiscent of Ian Healy keeping to Shane Warne Laaloo 1 Link to comment
Laaloo Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 6 minutes ago, mancalledsting said: Raina deserved a recall........he's back and playing for CSK. Can't wait to see Dhoni-Rainaaah combination in full flow again...reminiscent of Ian Healy keeping to Shane Warne Won't be surprised if I see bhajji and rayadu now in the t20 squad for WC. speedheat and mancalledsting 2 Link to comment
Shunya Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 35 minutes ago, Laaloo said: I'm not blaming him for the loss but his innings was pathetic. When Kohli was there we had a chance at an improbable win. Dhoni didn't do jackshit when the match was alive. That's dhoni in a nutshell in t20s. How am I lying about perera? Even in that Eden gardens odi, kuldeep Yadav faced more balls against lakmal than dhoni and looked more assured. Dhoni got some cheap runs at the end and viola oh look he's not a ftb. Regarding that t20, I wanted him to do more than 28(28)* at one point. Is that so hard to do when the rrr is more than 12. Show some intent instead of playing for not outs. Tu chamchagiri karta reh. Facts are bitter sorry. Right, he should have done more than that to make us win. But knowing you, you would have then said that he scored cheap runs. Fact is he is not as good as he is in ODIs but he is not as bad as you want to portray. Over exaggarating and lying is not going to change those facts. These are the numbers for Indian batsman in last 2 years and he would have scored max 30 odd runs against Perera out of those 479 which you were shamelessly trying to lie to put him down. Overall figures Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s V Kohli 2016-2017 24 22 8 850 89* 60.71 598 142.14 0 8 1 93 15 RG Sharma 2016-2017 26 26 1 749 118 29.96 523 143.21 1 5 2 71 34 MS Dhoni 2016-2017 33 27 16 479 56 43.54 338 141.71 0 1 0 34 17 KL Rahul 2016-2017 12 11 2 458 110* 50.88 310 147.74 1 3 1 41 20 S Dhawan 2016-2017 19 19 3 423 80 26.43 340 124.41 0 3 0 54 12 SK Raina 2016-2017 18 14 2 283 63 23.58 218 129.81 0 1 1 24 10 MK Pandey 2016-2017 13 10 3 220 51* 31.42 169 130.17 0 1 1 13 8 Yuvraj Singh 2016-2017 17 14 3 209 35 19.00 194 107.73 0 0 1 16 11 HH Pandya 2016-2017 26 16 1 154 31 10.26 119 129.41 0 0 2 8 8 KM Jadhav 2016-2017 7 4 0 108 58 27.00 86 125.58 0 1 0 11 3 AM Rahane 2016-2016 7 7 2 102 40 20.40 96 106.25 0 0 1 8 0 Dhoni does not need chamchagiri. Indian cricket fan knows his worth. Not everyone hates their own players and wishes bad for them like you and your gang do. Link to comment
raki05 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 1 hour ago, Shunya said: He has played well in last couple of years. His strike rate is higher, plays more attacking cricket instead of taking too long. And WKeeping is awesome as always, no match there. speedheat and Laaloo 2 Link to comment
Laaloo Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 (edited) 37 minutes ago, raki05 said: Rehne de Bhai. No point. Edited January 28, 2018 by Laaloo speedheat and raki05 1 1 Link to comment
kira Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Runs Mins BF 4s 6s SR Pos Dismissal Inns Opposition Ground Start Date 0 8 2 0 0 0.00 4 bowled 2 v South Africa Johannesburg 1 Dec 2006 T20I # 10 TDNB - - - - - - - - v Scotland Durban 13 Sep 2007 T20I # 26 33 46 31 3 1 106.45 6 caught 1 v Pakistan Durban 14 Sep 2007 T20I # 29 24 31 20 2 0 120.00 4 run out 2 v New Zealand Johannesburg 16 Sep 2007 T20I # 32 10* 22 8 0 0 125.00 4 not out 1 v England Durban 19 Sep 2007 T20I # 40 45 39 33 4 1 136.36 6 run out 1 v South Africa Durban 20 Sep 2007 T20I # 43 36 21 18 4 1 200.00 5 run out 1 v Australia Durban 22 Sep 2007 T20I # 45 6 9 10 0 0 60.00 5 bowled 1 v Pakistan Johannesburg 24 Sep 2007 T20I # 46 9* 11 5 0 1 180.00 5 not out 2 v Australia Mumbai (BS) 20 Oct 2007 T20I # 47 9 30 27 0 0 33.33 6 caught 1 v Australia Melbourne 1 Feb 2008 T20I # 52 13 17 17 1 0 76.47 5 bowled 2 v Sri Lanka Colombo (RPS) 10 Feb 2009 T20I # 82 2 5 6 0 0 33.33 6 bowled 1 v New Zealand Christchurch 25 Feb 2009 T20I # 84 28* 57 30 2 0 93.33 5 not out 1 v New Zealand Wellington 27 Feb 2009 T20I # 85 26 26 21 0 1 123.80 3 bowled 1 v Bangladesh Nottingham 6 Jun 2009 T20I # 93 14 9 13 1 0 107.69 3 caught 2 v Ireland Nottingham 10 Jun 2009 T20I # 101 11 24 23 0 0 47.82 5 caught 1 v West Indies Lord's 12 Jun 2009 T20I # 105 30* 33 20 3 0 150.00 6 not out 2 v England Lord's 14 Jun 2009 T20I # 109 5 11 12 0 0 41.66 5 run out 2 v South Africa Nottingham 16 Jun 2009 T20I # 113 9 - 12 0 0 75.00 3 caught 2 v Sri Lanka Nagpur 9 Dec 2009 T20I # 126 46 55 28 3 2 164.28 3 bowled 2 v Sri Lanka Mohali 12 Dec 2009 T20I # 127 15* 2 6 0 2 250.00 5 not out 2 v Afghanistan Gros Islet 1 May 2010 T20I # 153 16* 6 6 1 1 266.66 6 not out 1 v South Africa Gros Islet 2 May 2010 T20I # 155 2 10 8 0 0 25.00 6 caught 2 v Australia Bridgetown 7 May 2010 T20I # 165 29 30 18 2 2 161.11 6 run out 2 v West Indies Bridgetown 9 May 2010 T20I # 169 23* 43 19 0 1 121.05 4 not out 1 v Sri Lanka Gros Islet 11 May 2010 T20I # 173 10* 19 11 0 0 90.90 7 not out 1 v South Africa Durban 9 Jan 2011 T20I # 196 8 15 8 1 0 100.00 7 caught 1 v England Manchester 31 Aug 2011 T20I # 204 21 44 26 0 1 80.76 6 run out 1 v England Kolkata 29 Oct 2011 T20I # 214 48* 55 43 1 3 111.62 6 not out 2 v Australia Sydney 1 Feb 2012 T20I # 217 21* 26 18 2 0 116.66 4 not out 2 v Australia Melbourne 3 Feb 2012 T20I # 218 DNB - - - - - - - 2 v South Africa Johannesburg 30 Mar 2012 T20I # 242 16* 13 14 2 0 114.28 5 not out 1 v Sri Lanka Pallekele 7 Aug 2012 T20I # 255 22* 31 23 2 0 95.65 5 not out 2 v New Zealand Chennai 11 Sep 2012 T20I # 261 18* 21 9 2 1 200.00 6 not out 1 v Afghanistan Colombo (RPS) 19 Sep 2012 T20I # 265 9 23 8 1 0 112.50 5 caught 1 v England Colombo (RPS) 23 Sep 2012 T20I # 272 15 21 21 2 0 71.42 7 caught 1 v Australia Colombo (RPS) 28 Sep 2012 T20I # 278 DNB - - - - - - - 2 v Pakistan Colombo (RPS) 30 Sep 2012 T20I # 282 23* 20 13 3 0 176.92 7 not out 1 v South Africa Colombo (RPS) 2 Oct 2012 T20I # 286 24* 29 21 2 0 114.28 6 not out 2 v England Pune 20 Dec 2012 T20I # 292 38 23 18 3 2 211.11 7 caught 1 v England Mumbai 22 Dec 2012 T20I # 294 1 7 2 0 0 50.00 5 bowled 1 v Pakistan Bengaluru 25 Dec 2012 T20I # 296 33 39 23 4 0 143.47 5 bowled 1 v Pakistan Ahmedabad 28 Dec 2012 T20I # 298 24* 44 21 2 0 114.28 6 not out 2 v Australia Rajkot 10 Oct 2013 T20I # 331 DNB - - - - - - - 2 v Pakistan Dhaka 21 Mar 2014 T20I # 378 DNB - - - - - - - 2 v West Indies Dhaka 23 Mar 2014 T20I # 382 22* 16 12 1 2 183.33 4 not out 2 v Bangladesh Dhaka 28 Mar 2014 T20I # 389 24 36 20 1 1 120.00 6 bowled 1 v Australia Dhaka 30 Mar 2014 T20I # 393 0* 3 1 0 0 0.00 6 not out 2 v South Africa Dhaka 4 Apr 2014 T20I # 399 4* 10 7 0 0 57.14 5 not out 1 v Sri Lanka Dhaka 6 Apr 2014 T20I # 400 27* 35 18 2 1 150.00 5 not out 2 v England Birmingham 7 Sep 2014 T20I # 405 20* 22 12 2 1 166.66 5 not out 1 v South Africa Dharamsala 2 Oct 2015 T20I # 456 5 20 8 0 0 62.50 6 caught 1 v South Africa Cuttack 5 Oct 2015 T20I # 457 11* 3 3 1 1 366.66 5 not out 1 v Australia Adelaide 26 Jan 2016 T20I # 485 14 18 9 2 0 155.55 4 caught 1 v Australia Melbourne 29 Jan 2016 T20I # 486 DNB - - - - - - - 2 v Australia Sydney 31 Jan 2016 T20I # 489 2 2 2 0 0 100.00 6 caught 1 v Sri Lanka Pune 9 Feb 2016 T20I # 496 9* - 5 1 0 180.00 6 not out 1 v Sri Lanka Ranchi 12 Feb 2016 T20I # 497 DNB - - - - - - - 2 v Sri Lanka Visakhapatnam 14 Feb 2016 T20I # 499 8* 4 2 0 1 400.00 7 not out 1 v Bangladesh Dhaka 24 Feb 2016 T20I # 509 7* 6 3 1 0 233.33 7 not out 2 v Pakistan Dhaka 27 Feb 2016 T20I # 512 7* 7 4 0 1 175.00 7 not out 2 v Sri Lanka Dhaka 1 Mar 2016 T20I # 515 DNB - - - - - - - 2 v U.A.E. Dhaka 3 Mar 2016 T20I # 517 20* 7 6 1 2 333.33 4 not out 2 v Bangladesh Dhaka 6 Mar 2016 T20I # 521 30 - 30 1 1 100.00 6 caught 2 v New Zealand Nagpur 15 Mar 2016 T20I # 535 13* 15 9 0 1 144.44 6 not out 2 v Pakistan Kolkata 19 Mar 2016 T20I # 541 13* 29 12 1 0 108.33 6 not out 1 v Bangladesh Bengaluru 23 Mar 2016 T20I # 547 18* 29 10 3 0 180.00 6 not out 2 v Australia Mohali 27 Mar 2016 T20I # 553 15* 24 9 1 0 166.66 4 not out 1 v West Indies Mumbai 31 Mar 2016 T20I # 556 19* - 17 1 0 111.76 6 not out 2 v Zimbabwe Harare 18 Jun 2016 T20I # 558 DNB - - - - - - - 2 v Zimbabwe Harare 20 Jun 2016 T20I # 559 9 19 13 1 0 69.23 6 bowled 1 v Zimbabwe Harare 22 Jun 2016 T20I # 560 43 53 25 2 2 172.00 5 caught 2 v West Indies Lauderhill 27 Aug 2016 T20I # 562 DNB - - - - - - - 2 v West Indies Lauderhill 28 Aug 2016 T20I # 563 36* 47 27 3 0 133.33 5 not out 1 v England Kanpur 26 Jan 2017 T20I # 592 5 16 7 0 0 71.42 6 bowled 1 v England Nagpur 29 Jan 2017 T20I # 593 56 56 36 5 2 155.55 4 caught 1 v England Bengaluru 1 Feb 2017 T20I # 594 2 - 3 0 0 66.66 5 caught 1 v West Indies Kingston 9 Jul 2017 T20I # 617 1* - 1 0 0 100.00 5 not out 2 v Sri Lanka Colombo (RPS) 6 Sep 2017 T20I # 618 DNB - - - - - - - 2 v Australia Ranchi 7 Oct 2017 T20I # 623 13 24 16 1 0 81.25 6 stumped 1 v Australia Guwahati 10 Oct 2017 T20I # 624 7* 4 2 0 1 350.00 5 not out 1 v New Zealand Delhi 1 Nov 2017 T20I # 630 49 44 37 2 3 132.43 6 caught 2 v New Zealand Rajkot 4 Nov 2017 T20I # 631 0* 3 0 0 0 - 7 not out 1 v New Zealand Thiruvananthapuram 7 Nov 2017 T20I # 632 39* 40 22 4 1 177.27 4 not out 1 v Sri Lanka Cuttack 20 Dec 2017 T20I # 633 28 41 21 2 2 133.33 3 bowled 1 v Sri Lanka Indore 22 Dec 2017 T20I # 634 16* 20 10 2 0 160.00 7 not out 2 v Sri Lanka Mumbai 24 Dec 2017 T20I # 635 These are all the innings dhoni has played in T20I till now, I have a simple question for dhoni chamchas, out of these 75 innings how many would you consider as good knocks? ( I am already setting the bar too low, I am not even asking for great innings or match winning innings, just good innings) Answer this question honestly and you will see your own bias towards dhoni raki05, Ironhide, Laaloo and 1 other 1 2 1 Link to comment
Vk1 Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 Astonishing to see pant not being picked after his performance in SMA. Some serious politicos being done by Dhoni aided by Kohli. speedheat 1 Link to comment
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