rtmohanlal Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 (edited) 107 is by far a poor total . Even 11 tail enders combined can score much more than this ..... look at Shami ... he scored 10 of just 3 balls.what is needed is 6 multi dimensional batsmen who always play positively & confidently. Unfortunately no one in this batting line up apart from Kohli meets all these criteria. No wonder he is 'the best batsman' in the world and all others in the line up way poorer when compared to him. In by gone era there were 4 - SRT,Ganguly,Dravid, Sehwag who formed the nucleus of both tests and one dayers. Laxman,Yuvraj,Kaif,Raina,Dhoni,Gambhir all supported them at some moment or the other. Now their is no such nucleus. Only 1 Virat and he is playing so confidently in all 3 formats and almost every where. But others????????? This is the result of getting satisfied with a set of mediocre batsmen who are not at all multi dimensional. Talented youngsters are never given enough chances in dead rubbers, home conditions , against lower ranked teams etc etc. Edited August 11, 2018 by rtmohanlal UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 5 hours ago, Lannister said: But why Jadeja? He never gave us any indication in the previous tours that he will succeed on these conditions as a bowler and taking wickets is his primary role not scoring runs. Shouldn't be better off investing in a specialist batsman or a bowler? If I were the captain, I would choose 3 specialist pacers and Ashwin in the conditions that were prevailing in Lords. But, if the team management really wanted to play 2 spinners then the only way to do so, while playing 3 front-line pacers, is by playing Jadeja in place of Pandya UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
Pollack Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, Gollum said: 107 is a joke total, a par score yesterday would have been 100/5 in 34 overs, no way can we comeback from that trainwreck of a batting show. Won't excuse the batsmen because this isn't one off, they are failing continuously which indicates that they aren't equipped to fight it out in tough conditions. Pakistani batsmen show better application in these conditions, that sums up our present level. Today sun may be out which will make conditions easier, and we are without Bhuvi-Bumrah...spinners will find it tough going. Team selection is flawed and catchers/WK pe koi bharosa nahi ha. No matter what happens bowlers aren't the ones who will cost us this match. You will be hard pressed to find instances where teams have come back to win after being shot down for 100 odd runs on day 1...and that covers the entire 100+ years of test history. I did not say 107 is a par score. It's below par. 150 would have been just par. 200 a good score. But the point I am making is you need to outbowl opposition's in England which is precisely what Pakistan did. Pakistan also got a bit better conditions for batting than what we faced yesterday.Indian bowlers don't maintain intensity over the entire innings and just bowl well in patches.Indian bowlers will take wickets here too but not before their fair share of indiscipline and free runs on offer.In short, they are not relentless. Edited August 11, 2018 by Pollack UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
GolGappe Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 India has played different playing XI for 44 successive test matches. Too much leeway given to Shastri and Kohli as far as selections are concerned. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
prasen82 Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 this loss purely on kohli and shastri. kuldeep a huge luxury . miss buvi and bumrah a lot here. if they were there the bowling would be shami,bhuvi,bumrah,ishant and ashwin. i want england to score a 400 here and india to be bowled out fr 80 runs and lose by innings and 200 runs.. at least the heat will step up on shastri, kohlis captaincy and the other free riders. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 (edited) I thought two spinners would have already dismissed England twice by now. Edited August 11, 2018 by rkt.india Switchblade and UrmiSinhaRay 1 1 Link to comment
Switchblade Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 Just now, rkt.india said: I thought two spinners would have only dismissed England twice by now. to you rkt bhai after the two games I haven’t seen you get very emotional or charged up wanting xyz to be dropped.Really to you for your calmness. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 5 minutes ago, Switchblade said: to you rkt bhai after the two games I haven’t seen you get very emotional or charged up wanting xyz to be dropped.Really to you for your calmness. I am optimistic but realistic. UrmiSinhaRay and Switchblade 1 1 Link to comment
Switchblade Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 1 minute ago, rkt.india said: I am optimistic but realistic. Even I knew it would be difficult due to past history and our batting but I remember you commented on that painful match thread that we were never really good at touring overseas so those defeats didn’t hurt you that much as you had seen us lose again for being cool n calm. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
Switchblade Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 19 hours ago, prasen82 said: this loss purely on kohli and shastri. kuldeep a huge luxury . miss buvi and bumrah a lot here. if they were there the bowling would be shami,bhuvi,bumrah,ishant and ashwin. i want england to score a 400 here and india to be bowled out fr 80 runs and lose by innings and 200 runs.. at least the heat will step up on shastri, kohlis captaincy and the other free riders. Quote Pandya defended India’s decision to play with an additional spinner, Kuldeep Yadav alongside R Ashwin, instead of an ideal choice of going with three specialist seamers. “Obviously they (team management) had some thought behind it (picking the second spinner). I don’t get into that too much. I think three pacers (including him) were enough to be honest. We did enough and we bowled properly. We gave whatever we had to give. As I told you, today’s wicket was the wicket we expected and it was a proper call.” Ashwin and Kuldeep could barely do much on the third day and Pandya rued that the ball is not gripping much due to the rain. “If this was a five-day game, spinners would’ve come into use. But because of the rain and everything, it was short and there’s not many footmarks and it was not gripping that much. If this was a five-day game, things would have been different,” Pandya said. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
Switchblade Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 While I understand that IPL is completely different from TEST CRICKET and Kohli is a massive upgrade as captain as far as compared to Dhoni but his tactics are baffling and it resembles RCB. Even in RCB he asked Jennings to be removed and got a poor and non existent coach like Vettori with 0 powers the results are in front of everybody.For India he has a cheerleader and in SENA things are looking no different as far as batting goes heavily reliant on one or two individuals and then there is a long list of tail falling like nine pins. Link to comment
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