If shami and ishant can't restrict eng to 150-175 on this minefield, then they should not play for india

[Sachinism]

Yaar, what match were you watching? 

There was nothing there for the bowlers.

Some natural seam on the Lords slope, that's it

[express bowling]

31 minutes ago, Moochad said:

 

via @bowl_out

 

Shami, Umesh and BK all are underwhelming by this chart. Ishant has been good.

 

Ashwin 

 

 

 

We can't just pick opening bowlers.

 

This is how our bowlers have fared in the last 5 years.

 

Bumrah, Shami and Bhuvi have all averaged between 24 and 29.

 

Overall figures

Player	Span	Mat	Inns	Overs	Mdns	Runs	Wkts	BBI	BBM	Ave	Econ	SR	5	10
PP Ojha	2013-2013	2	4	66.2	17	178	11	5/40	10/89	16.18	2.68	36.1	2	1
RA Jadeja	2013-2018	31	59	1433.1	363	3416	144	7/48	10/154	23.72	2.38	59.7	8	1
R Ashwin	2013-2018	44	81	1930.4	390	5574	231	7/59	13/140	24.12	2.88	50.1	17	5
B Kumar	2013-2018	17	30	494.0	132	1405	57	6/82	8/96	24.64	2.84	52.0	4	0
JJ Bumrah	2018-2018	3	6	112.1	16	353	14	5/54	7/111	25.21	3.14	48.0	1	0
A Mishra	2015-2016	9	18	267.4	44	853	33	4/43	7/72	25.84	3.18	48.6	0	0
Mohammed Shami	2013-2018	32	61	989.4	172	3356	116	5/28	9/118	28.93	3.39	51.1	3	0
I Sharma	2013-2018	33	60	1019.3	198	3170	101	7/74	9/162	31.38	3.10	60.5	5	0
J Yadav	2016-2017	4	8	104.3	19	367	11	3/30	4/68	33.36	3.51	57.0	0	0
UT Yadav	2014-2018	29	58	772.3	147	2635	74	4/32	6/71	35.60	3.41	62.6	0	0
Z Khan	2013-2014	4	7	195.3	31	702	16	5/170	5/223	43.87	3.59	73.3	1	0
VR Aaron	2014-2015	8	12	166.1	8	818	15	3/97	3/97	54.53	4.92	66.4	0	0

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Edited August 11, 2018 by express bowling

[Tibarn]

OP is correct, although this pitch isn't a minefield, it was when it was cloudy, but it wasn't during the bulk of the English innings. 

 

Ishant and Shami are the so-called spearheads, therefore they must bear the brunt of the blame if the bowling attack fails to silence the English bats. 

 

Ultimately, any new bowler(s) like Siraj, will have to replace one/both of these two if they fail. They aren't going to be replacing backups after all...

[Straight Drive]

Did OP mean to restrict team total to 150 - 175 or was that the lead ?

[Moochad]

8 hours ago, express bowling said:

 

 

We can't just pick opening bowlers.

 

This is how our bowlers have fared in the last 5 years.

 

Bumrah, Shami and Bhuvi have all averaged between 24 and 29.

 

Overall figures

Player	Span	Mat	Inns	Overs	Mdns	Runs	Wkts	BBI	BBM	Ave	Econ	SR	5	10
PP Ojha	2013-2013	2	4	66.2	17	178	11	5/40	10/89	16.18	2.68	36.1	2	1
RA Jadeja	2013-2018	31	59	1433.1	363	3416	144	7/48	10/154	23.72	2.38	59.7	8	1
R Ashwin	2013-2018	44	81	1930.4	390	5574	231	7/59	13/140	24.12	2.88	50.1	17	5
B Kumar	2013-2018	17	30	494.0	132	1405	57	6/82	8/96	24.64	2.84	52.0	4	0
JJ Bumrah	2018-2018	3	6	112.1	16	353	14	5/54	7/111	25.21	3.14	48.0	1	0
A Mishra	2015-2016	9	18	267.4	44	853	33	4/43	7/72	25.84	3.18	48.6	0	0
Mohammed Shami	2013-2018	32	61	989.4	172	3356	116	5/28	9/118	28.93	3.39	51.1	3	0
I Sharma	2013-2018	33	60	1019.3	198	3170	101	7/74	9/162	31.38	3.10	60.5	5	0
J Yadav	2016-2017	4	8	104.3	19	367	11	3/30	4/68	33.36	3.51	57.0	0	0
UT Yadav	2014-2018	29	58	772.3	147	2635	74	4/32	6/71	35.60	3.41	62.6	0	0
Z Khan	2013-2014	4	7	195.3	31	702	16	5/170	5/223	43.87	3.59	73.3	1	0
VR Aaron	2014-2015	8	12	166.1	8	818	15	3/97	3/97	54.53	4.92	66.4	0	0

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stats in the pic I posted seem off, im not sure where they come from .

Edited August 12, 2018 by Moochad

[rkt.india]

9 hours ago, Sachinism said:

Yaar, what match were you watching? 

There was nothing there for the bowlers.

Some natural seam on the Lords slope, that's it

Yes it was absolute patta. No turn as well. Historically lords doesn't spinners anyway.

[express bowling]

2 hours ago, Moochad said:

stats in the pic I posted seem off, im not sure where they come from .

 

So it is better to remove them.