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Hindu Sena Pays Tributes to Queen Victoria on Death Anniv, Says She Freed India from Autocratic Mughals

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Are they that stupid?

 

The Marathas and Sikhs had already destroyed the Mughal Empire by the time the British arrived, all the Mughals had left was Delhi and that was only because the Sikhs let them have it back.

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Fact: Sardars faught along with English to crush the uprising of 1857 and seized Delhi to arrest Bahadur Shah. Simply because the way Mughals treated sardars and Hindus.

They simply turned whole uprisingnof 1857 in favour of Britain 

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On 1/25/2019 at 9:16 AM, Ranvir said:

Are they that stupid?

 

The Marathas and Sikhs had already destroyed the Mughal Empire by the time the British arrived, all the Mughals had left was Delhi and that was only because the Sikhs let them have it back.

According to Which History book?

hyderbad had Nijam

lucknow had nawab

so did Bengal and Delhi?

just fe maratha southie Sikhs and rajputs left. However most were allready under oressure

 

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35 minutes ago, mishra said:

Fact: Sardars faught along with English to crush the uprising of 1857 and seized Delhi to arrest Bahadur Shah. Simply because the way Mughals treated sardars and Hindus.

They simply turned whole uprisingnof 1857 in favour of Britain 

Wow didn't know that. I used to think 1857 was Brits vs entire India including Mughals, Hindus, Sikhs, Marathas and all. Indian history is so complex that it's hard to differentiate between friends and foe.

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1 minute ago, MechEng said:

Wow didn't know that. I used to think 1857 was Brits vs entire India including Mughals, Hindus, Sikhs, Marathas and all. Indian history is so complex that it's hard to differentiate between friends and foe.

1857 was entire India vs British if you consider a spastic person who slaps himself with left hand, then uses his right hand to beat up the left hand as 'entire India'. Not only were there a lot of help to the Brits ( and with good reason - they were winning/invincible during those years and its stupid to side with the losers), there was zero coordination between the various indian rebels. 
Basically the British had a mass coordinated response while every single rebel was doing the 'its times of toubles, time to do a rebellion and get my little jaagir independent' type of thing..which the Brits squished one by one.

 

Singh bling Mentor

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5 hours ago, mishra said:

Fact: Sardars faught along with English to crush the uprising of 1857 and seized Delhi to arrest Bahadur Shah. Simply because the way Mughals treated sardars and Hindus.

They simply turned whole uprisingnof 1857 in favour of Britain 

So Sikhs were so powerful that they single handedly turned revolt against mutineers?

 

The revolt was never pan India. There was hardly any revolt in South . Plenty of Indian kings collaborated with Britishers. Sikhs were one of them.

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3 hours ago, mishra said:

^ Name few.

 A simple reading of wikipedia will tell you that 21 kingdoms supported britishers and only three small of them had sikh rulers

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Rebellion_of_1857

Moreover independent nation of Nepal provided crucial support to British. 

 

The large princely states, Hyderabad, Mysore, Travancore, and Kashmir, as well as the smaller ones of Rajputana, did not join the rebellion, serving the British

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None of the four biggest princely  states which supported British had Sikh ruler.

 

 

 

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^ All the names you mention never faught along with the British against rebellion.

Also, No need to defend Sikh for fighting alongside British. Just be mature enough to accept it because you haven’t read how Sikhs and Hindus were treated under Mughals. They took the side because they had to choose between 2 evils

 

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45 minutes ago, mishra said:

^ All the names you mention never faught along with the British against rebellion.

Also, No need to defend Sikh for fighting alongside British. Just be mature enough to accept it because you haven’t read how Sikhs and Hindus were treated under Mughals. They took the side because they had to choose between 2 evils

 

Please show me link that say only sikh fought along with Britishers and Britishers won in revolt only because of sikhs which were barely around 1% of united India population.

 

Plus I am not defending it because I am a sikh. The rebellion was going to failure. India was way behind Europeans at that time and Indian kings would had to be dependent on Europeans to control India.

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32 minutes ago, Singh bling said:

Please show me link that say only sikh fought along with Britishers and Britishers won in revolt only because of sikhs which were barely around 1% of united India population.

 

Plus I am not defending it because I am a sikh. The rebellion was going to failure. India was way behind Europeans at that time and Indian kings would had to be dependent on Europeans to control India.

You do that work yourself. When Brit's were reeling, they first beat Delhi , disciplined their rebellion army then Kanpur, and one more time disciplined their army. Rest fell like pack of cards.

There is a thread on this forum itself posted by Resident Dhimmi Mulo where he has tried to give lecture to rest of us why we should be doing Rememeberance day. Some details are on that

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4 hours ago, mishra said:

You do that work yourself. When Brit's were reeling, they first beat Delhi , disciplined their rebellion army then Kanpur, and one more time disciplined their army. Rest fell like pack of cards.

There is a thread on this forum itself posted by Resident Dhimmi Mulo where he has tried to give lecture to rest of us why we should be doing Rememeberance day. Some details are on that

And thats why you are a nationalist and not a patriot. 

mishra Grand Master

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On 1/27/2019 at 7:14 PM, Muloghonto said:

And thats why you are a nationalist and not a patriot. 

Yes, Patriots must either oppose or atleast not utter “vande matram”. 

mishra Grand Master

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15 hours ago, Muloghonto said:

:laugh::facepalm:

 

Next time, google the definitions.

 

All Patriots assembled in Kolkata under true leader Mamata and taught everyone etiquette lessons

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