Imran Khan's Naya Pakistan

[Autonomous]

5 minutes ago, sandeep said:

again, justifications for what? why is it permissible for Pakjabis to spout hate speech on your tv channels, but if Pukhtoons protesting against disappearances and deaths of loved ones says something angry, they are criminalized?  Do you not see the double standards? 

 

On what basis are "PTM" hounded and illegally harassed, instead of being acknowledged as a political force?  Why are elected members of Pakistani parliament wrongfully arrested and accused of terrorism - Khar Qamar massacre - and then released quietly few months later, since there is no real case against them?  And where is the famous Pakistani love and emotion for AZAADI then? 

On the same note, what do you have to say about BLA's killings? 

 

They too cry and hue about the so called "disappearings"

Edited July 22, 2020 by Autonomous

[Autonomous]

6 minutes ago, sandeep said:

again, justifications for what? why is it permissible for Pakjabis to spout hate speech on your tv channels, but if Pukhtoons protesting against disappearances and deaths of loved ones says something angry, they are criminalized?  Do you not see the double standards? 

 

On what basis are "PTM" hounded and illegally harassed, instead of being acknowledged as a political force?  Why are elected members of Pakistani parliament wrongfully arrested and accused of terrorism - Khar Qamar massacre - and then released quietly few months later, since there is no real case against them?  And where is the famous Pakistani love and emotion for AZAADI then? 

No one says BS like burning a place, you idiot. 

[sandeep]

1 hour ago, Autonomous said:

On the same note, what do you have to say about BLA's killings? 

 

They too cry and hue about the so called "disappearings"

 

17 hours ago, sandeep said:

Btw, I do not "justify" violence and terrorism perpetrated by anybody, anywhere.

 

1 hour ago, Autonomous said:

No one says BS like burning a place, you idiot. 

Careful with the language bacchey, Argue against the discussion point, not the person.  

 

And to further elaborate, I do not justify violent acts of the BLA, nor do I accept that such incidents justify the retaliatory violence committed by the PakMil - especially against activists who say things that they do not like.  

[Autonomous]

6 minutes ago, sandeep said:

 

 

Careful with the language bacchey, Argue against the discussion point, not the person.  

 

And to further elaborate, I do not justify violent acts of the BLA, nor do I accept that such incidents justify the retaliatory violence committed by the PakMil - especially against activists who say things that they do not like.  

PTM is cut from the same cloth. 

[sandeep]

2 minutes ago, Autonomous said:

PTM is cut from the same cloth. 

You can lie to yourself all you want.  Do not expect those lies to be accepted at face value.

[Autonomous]

2 hours ago, sandeep said:

You can lie to yourself all you want.  Do not expect those lies to be accepted at face value.

You are free to live in lala-land as well. 

 

Can't fault you, it is general tendency on your side to exaggerate things.

[sandeep]

1 hour ago, Autonomous said:

You are free to live in lala-land as well. 

 

Can't fault you, it is general tendency on your side to exaggerate things.

I'm not the one who made baseless comparisons between BLA and PTM.  Yet to see single shred of evidence to back that up.  I am not the one hurling insults at you, or at non-violent civilian protestors, calling them trash, simply because your brain is addled with PakMil propaganda against them. 

 

Your army shot unarmed civilians walking towards a "checkpoint", and then arrested PTM leaders of 'assaulting' soldiers.  Without a single shred of evidence.  Of course, eventually those leaders were released, but by now, you and other brainwashed Pakistanis are busy calling them 'trash' etc.  And attacking others who point out the facts.

 

[Autonomous]

8 minutes ago, sandeep said:

I'm not the one who made baseless comparisons between BLA and PTM.  Yet to see single shred of evidence to back that up.  I am not the one hurling insults at you, or at non-violent civilian protestors, calling them trash, simply because your brain is addled with PakMil propaganda against them. 

 

Your army shot unarmed civilians walking towards a "checkpoint", and then arrested PTM leaders of 'assaulting' soldiers.  Without a single shred of evidence.  Of course, eventually those leaders were released, but by now, you and other brainwashed Pakistanis are busy calling them 'trash' etc.  And attacking others who point out the facts.

 

They indeed are piece of trash for all their disgraceful actions over national flag, hurling abuses at respected cities and citizens of Pakistan. 

[sandeep]

2 hours ago, Autonomous said:

They indeed are piece of trash for all their disgraceful actions over national flag, hurling abuses at respected cities and citizens of Pakistan. 

A country where non-violent protestors are called 'trash', while worthies like Masood Azhar and Hafiz Saeed are provided with state security, - and more of its population, even the so-called educated ones, feel the same - deserves to be the dumpster fire that it is.

[Autonomous]

29 minutes ago, sandeep said:

A country where non-violent protestors are called 'trash', while worthies like Masood Azhar and Hafiz Saeed are provided with state security, - and more of its population, even the so-called educated ones, feel the same - deserves to be the dumpster fire that it is.

Did i ever say Azhar or Saeed should not pay for their crimes?

 

Stop making things up. See, this is the problem with Indians.

[sandeep]

7 minutes ago, Autonomous said:

Did i ever say Azhar or Saeed should not pay for their crimes?

 

Stop making things up. See, this is the problem with Indians.

You are eager to hurl abuses at PTM - a non-violent civil disobedience political organization, and no I have not seen you condemn those guys.  

 

And if Pakistanis did not support the likes of Azhar and Saeed, they wouldn't have the resources they do, nor the support from government - not just the military, even the politicians, who are completely slavishly beholden to voter sentiment, are supportive of them.

Edited July 22, 2020 by sandeep

[Autonomous]

44 minutes ago, sandeep said:

You are eager to hurl abuses at PTM - a non-violent civil disobedience political organization, and no I have not seen you condemn those guys.  

 

And if Pakistanis did not support the likes of Azhar and Saeed, they wouldn't have the resources they do, nor the support from government - not just the military, even the politicians, who are completely slavishly beholden to voter sentiment, are supportive of them.

I don't give a ratass about those guys, you can hang them if you so wish. 

 

It would be better if PTM would just rest in Afghanistan which is where its loyalties are. 

 

Anyways, not surprising that indians support such goons. 

Edited July 22, 2020 by Autonomous

[coffee_rules]

State of aam aadmi in Pak

 

 

[Autonomous]

11 hours ago, coffee_rules said:

State of aam aadmi in Pak

 

 

This is true.

[sandeep]

 

 

 

 

This is how the slave existence of Pakistanis is continued - their media is kept under threat by "agencies" who decide what is shown on TV and what isn't. 

 

I pray that some day my Pakistani friends get to breathe in a taste of what freedom is.  Maybe that will happen in 20 or 30 years.  And another decade or so after that, they may have a chance to get "self-determination" in who rules over them.

[Norman]

52 minutes ago, sandeep said:

This is how the slave existence of Pakistanis is continued - their media is kept under threat by "agencies" who decide what is shown on TV and what isn't. 

 

Slaves emulating their masters. Nothing new. 

 

[Autonomous]

2 hours ago, sandeep said:

 

 

 

 

This is how the slave existence of Pakistanis is continued - their media is kept under threat by "agencies" who decide what is shown on TV and what isn't. 

 

I pray that some day my Pakistani friends get to breathe in a taste of what freedom is.  Maybe that will happen in 20 or 30 years.  And another decade or so after that, they may have a chance to get "self-determination" in who rules over them.

I would agree with you on this.

[sandeep]

 

Straight up gangster behavior - making police kidnap, assault and beat up a journalist - telling him "tum samajhdaar ho, tumhe pata hai kyon ho rahaa hai".  

 

You can see how shaken up this guy is.  

 

Takes genuine courage to go on camera and face the world with this.  

 

Respect.  

[Autonomous]

On 7/23/2020 at 9:47 PM, sandeep said:

 

Straight up gangster behavior - making police kidnap, assault and beat up a journalist - telling him "tum samajhdaar ho, tumhe pata hai kyon ho rahaa hai".  

 

You can see how shaken up this guy is.  

 

Takes genuine courage to go on camera and face the world with this.  

 

Respect.  

I agree with bulk of your points. But sometimes you tend to go far ahead with the things. 

 

At this point of time no one is safe here, anyone speaking against certain institutes, can be picked up like this. Its a fact, no one is safe. 

[mishra]

Bhai @Autonomous , Pakistan is done when it comes to freedom. 10 years down the line, You may have a brilliant Road, Top class trains, and best airports , 24X7 power but  You are in a spider web of China, more you wriggle , more trapped you get toward a future more likely worse then North Korea.