beetle Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 Next match is easy. It gives them breathing space to make a well informed decision .They have alternatives till then. What if the replaced players come in and suck and the injured player gets better before the important matches?Once removed ,the main players have to go home. AK007 1 Link to comment
Vijy Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 3 hours ago, Malcolm Merlyn said: Ideally Shaw and Mayank should open in WI. Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Ideally, yes. with Gill as the backup opener. Link to comment
ShoonyaSifar Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 3 hours ago, beetle said: Next match is easy. It gives them breathing space to make a well informed decision .They have alternatives till then. What if the replaced players come in and suck and the injured player gets better before the important matches?Once removed ,the main players have to go home. What if the injured players play in semis and break down again? Mind boggling that we will be carrying two guys with 10% chance of being fit after 2-3 weeks. My sense is they are hoping we seal a semi spot before BD match on 2nd July and the last match with SL on 6th July. That gives Dhawan and Bhuvi another ten days to recover before semis. This team under the present leadership anyways has never been honest about injuries to players. So don’t be surprised if they already know Dhawan and Bhuvi are out but will still carry them for 3 weeks before accepting the reality. Link to comment
ShoonyaSifar Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 5 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: yea it shud be the message ......... it isnt even right to give dhawan a mssg that he has done well for 6 yrs and even in this tournament and he ll loose the place just coz someone does well for 2-3 games. 2-3 games cant take away 6 yrs of perfomance 6 matches is nothing in front of 6 yrs..........and btw let that perfomance happen in 6 games. Add to that Left right hand combination No disrespect to Dhawan, but going by his record in knockouts of tournaments in these 6 years, better to bet on Rahul than a half fit Dhawan who would been out injured for more than a month before the semis. diehardpacer 1 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, ShoonyaSifar said: No disrespect to Dhawan, but going by his record in knockouts of tournaments in these 6 years, better to bet on Rahul than a half fit Dhawan who would been out injured for more than a month before the semis. Half fit or full we dont knw yet.....neways its a hairlline fracture not a hamstring that ll keep coming back Rahul isn even proven yet..........forget replacing someone like dhawan which m sure will not happen even if rahul score consecutive 100s . Dhawan has been the pillar of our batting and u dnt remove them like that Link to comment
ShoonyaSifar Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: Half fit or full we dont knw yet.....neways its a hairlline fracture not a hamstring that ll keep coming back Rahul isn even proven yet..........forget replacing someone like dhawan which m sure will not happen even if rahul score consecutive 100s . Dhawan has been the pillar of our batting and u dnt remove them like that Ever heard of a team (across sports) carrying an unfit player for a full month during a WC and then getting him back directly for the semis? Earlier we took a decision, better it is for our campaign diehardpacer 1 Link to comment
jf1gp_1 Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 If bhuvi is to be replaced its ishant who will come in not saini. Also we don't need pant yet given DK is still on bench. Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 20 minutes ago, ShoonyaSifar said: Ever heard of a team (across sports) carrying an unfit player for a full month during a WC and then getting him back directly for the semis? Earlier we took a decision, better it is for our campaign Konsi kitab men likha hua pehle nhin hua to ab bhi nhin hoga. Its not that he ll forget batting in 21 days or his injury was of back that he ll have problems playing shots. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 9 hours ago, diehardpacer said: It's risky.Given wet conditions in most of the matches,they should expect few more injuries & plan accordingly.Read somewhere they had sent back Saini & other practice bowlers back before the 1st match.They should call Ishant as cover here. If they don't want to rule Dhawan out,niggle one out of DK,Jadhav,Shankar out & get Pant in. Currently,the squad is 9 decent players + Jadhav,Shankar,Jadeja,DK .Not making these replacement decisions early could prove costly if an emergency arises in crunch match. Saini is in standby so Ishant can't come before him Link to comment
Mjcricket Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 It is a tough call. Both injured players are top class performers and have been a key part of India's ODI success. Link to comment
ShoonyaSifar Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 7 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: Konsi kitab men likha hua pehle nhin hua to ab bhi nhin hoga. Its not that he ll forget batting in 21 days or his injury was of back that he ll have problems playing shots. Haan bhai, dressing room ko real hospital ward hi bana do, kisi kitab mein likha hai ki nahi bana sakte. Bhuvi was rushed back from injury in Eng last year, we saw how he had really forgotten to bowl decently, or earlier with Sehwag/ Gauti in Tests in 2011 in England. But then kisi kitab mein yeh bhi nahi likha ki a team should not be sentimental fools. Good luck. Link to comment
diehardpacer Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 6 hours ago, rkt.india said: Saini is in standby so Ishant can't come before him Pant,Saini,Ishant,Rayudu,Axar all 5 were announced as standby players. https://www.news18.com/cricketnext/news/icc-world-cup-2019-no-call-on-bhuvneshwars-standby-yet-as-india-take-two-day-break-2190309.html. Saini had a side strain & is not fit yet.Most likely Ishant will be called as cover. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 9 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: Half fit or full we dont knw yet.....neways its a hairlline fracture not a hamstring that ll keep coming back Rahul isn even proven yet..........forget replacing someone like dhawan which m sure will not happen even if rahul score consecutive 100s . Dhawan has been the pillar of our batting and u dnt remove them like that Even hairlind fractures take 4-6 weeks to heal Link to comment
Stuge Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 13 hours ago, beetle said: Next match is easy. It gives them breathing space to make a well informed decision .They have alternatives till then. What if the replaced players come in and suck and the injured player gets better before the important matches?Once removed ,the main players have to go home. There are no easy matches in World Cup .India has played two matches with Afghanistan with 1 in India's favour and another was tied .Indian team cannot bring their guard down against any side . Link to comment
Stuge Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 14 hours ago, Malcolm Merlyn said: Ideally Shaw and Mayank should open in WI. Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Mayank will have issues against bouncers.Won't be surprised if he gets exposed in Windies big time. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 1 hour ago, diehardpacer said: Pant,Saini,Ishant,Rayudu,Axar all 5 were announced as standby players. https://www.news18.com/cricketnext/news/icc-world-cup-2019-no-call-on-bhuvneshwars-standby-yet-as-india-take-two-day-break-2190309.html. Saini had a side strain & is not fit yet.Most likely Ishant will be called as cover. It's more than a month now for Saini. Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 3 hours ago, rkt.india said: Even hairlind fractures take 4-6 weeks to heal they do but he has been given 3 weeks time.....and surely they wud have taken many opinions so they can wait for him to heal Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 5 hours ago, ShoonyaSifar said: Haan bhai, dressing room ko real hospital ward hi bana do, kisi kitab mein likha hai ki nahi bana sakte. Bhuvi was rushed back from injury in Eng last year, we saw how he had really forgotten to bowl decently, or earlier with Sehwag/ Gauti in Tests in 2011 in England. But then kisi kitab mein yeh bhi nahi likha ki a team should not be sentimental fools. Good luck. bhuvi is a bowler and he had a back injury which affects bowling big time Dhawan is a thumb...which when healed wnt affect batting Sehwag again had a surgey...huge diff look at what ur comparing. As i said u hve to see the extent of injury ...its just a hairline fracture .....not back injury, hamstring or broken leg. Bang are carrying shakib with injuries ENG are waiting on roy and morgan WI are carrying russell and gayle with injuries and gabriel also NZ came to tournament with injuries to guys like southee Link to comment
rkt.india Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: they do but he has been given 3 weeks time.....and surely they wud have taken many opinions so they can wait for him to heal you know Indian team management history with injuries and you still talk like that. You cant trust Indian team management with injuries. Bhuvi was supposed to heal on England test series after 2nd test. how did that pan out? It has happened just too many times to trust them. They played unfit Ashwin. Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, rkt.india said: you know Indian team management history with injuries and you still talk like that. You cant trust Indian team management with injuries. Bhuvi was supposed to heal on England test series after 2nd test. how did that pan out? It has happened just too many times to trust them. They played unfit Ashwin. Coz the nature of injuries is diff........bhuvi had back injuries and dhawan is just a thumb and u think they are fool that they wont have taken few doc opinion before keeping him. Ur talking about diff nature of injuries that to the bowlers ...dhawan is a batsman with a thumb injury which has chances to heal in time....and they have called pant for cover. What more do u want them to do Eng are keeping JAson roy who is struggling with hamstring Morgan who is struggling with back injury Edited June 18, 2019 by Ankit_sharma03 Link to comment
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