Nasser Hussain: "Rohit would get into an all-time white-ball XI"

[vvvslaxman]

4 minutes ago, Audiophile said:

Sachin faced a much better Pak attack.

In Rohit's defense, Rohit never got threatened by pace. Never seen anyone pull fast bowlers for six like Rohit sharma has done. We went gaga over Tenduklar pulling Andy Caddick for six. Recently Rohit pulled Mitch Starc for six. ALso if you look at the shots of Sachin and Rohit there is a difference where the ball ended up.  Sachin's six ended up behind the wicket Rohit's six was parallel. Basically it corresponds to the speed difference.

[Vijy]

40 minutes ago, Aiden said:

In Indian all time XI yes, World XI a big NO. Anwar Glichrist & Jayasuriya are far ahead of Rohit

none of this trio are far ahead. anwar and jaya feasted on SC and sharjah, both of which were pattas. I rate ganguly higher than both, although he would not make it to an all time ODI XI (or even the India ODI XI). gilly is a genuine candidate because of his keeping and explosive batting but I'd put ABDV in the middle order and have him keep wkt. greenidge is a better contender for 2nd opener. his SR was above par for openers of his era and his avg was excellent for that time. hayden is another underrated ODI batsman. Amla has been fading away, but for several yrs he was the best in bilaterals (not multi-nation tourneys) in the world. I would choose either hayden, greenidge, amla, or rohit alongside Tendu.

 

actually scratch that, the 2nd opener should be lara who was a true beast when he opened in ODIs in a challenging era. lara & SRT opening in ODIs. mouth salivating prospect.

Edited June 18, 2019 by Vijy

[R!TTER]

Come on this isn't even a contest & you know it, on a track probably faster than any current Indian player has ever played on.

 

 

He also played a shot similar to Rohit vs SL in 2003 WC, except both he & Sehwag used to play it regularly back then.

Edited June 18, 2019 by R!TTER

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6 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

In Rohit's defense, Rohit never got threatened by pace. Never seen anyone pull fast bowlers for six like Rohit sharma has done. We went gaga over Tenduklar pulling Andy Caddick for six. Recently Rohit pulled Mitch Starc for six. ALso if you look at the shots of Sachin and Rohit there is a difference where the ball ended up.  Sachin's six ended up behind the wicket Rohit's six was parallel. Basically it corresponds to the speed difference.

Sachin did not play the hook or pull by choice, plus him being short made it harder. I remember the ODI series against SA in Ireland in 2007. SA targeted him with short pitched stuff and he brought out the pull and hook. Gavaskar was also good hooker, but he stopped playing the shot because of the risk, but did play it against WI in 1983-84 series when Marshall was peppering and embarrassed all the Indian players.

[Vijy]

Just now, Audiophile said:

Sachin did not play the hook or pull by choice, plus him being short made it harder. I remember the ODI series against SA in Ireland in 2007. SA targeted him with short pitched stuff and he brought out the pull and hook. Gavaskar was also good hooker, but he stopped playing the shot because of the risk, but did play it against WI in 1983-84 series when Marshall was peppering and embarrassed all the Indian players.

amarnath was one batsman who played the hook quite regularly. probably our best touring batsman of all time apart from the usual candidates like Sunny, SRT, Dravid

[vvvslaxman]

Upper cut is not a new thing guys :) My first "almost six" was through upper cut in school. My best friend was bowling fast and furious. Faster the ball further it travels.  In Sachin's case he just had to guide Akhtar's ball. IN Rohit's case he literally had to hit it.

[Stuge]

2 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

Upper cut is not a new thing guys :) My first "almost six" was through upper cut in school. My best friend was bowling fast and furious. Faster the ball further it travels.  In Sachin's case he just had to guide Akhtar's ball. IN Rohit's case he literally had to hit it.

Its the tournament and the opposition which matters.

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23 minutes ago, Vijy said:

amarnath was one batsman who played the hook quite regularly. probably our best touring batsman of all time apart from the usual candidates like Sunny, SRT, Dravid

Problem with Jimmy was his lack of consistency. When he in poor form, he was really poor. But on his day he could go toe to toe with the best batsman of his time.

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33 minutes ago, R!TTER said:

Come on this isn't even a contest & you know it, on a track probably faster than any current Indian player has ever played on.

 

 

He also played a shot similar to Rohit vs SL in 2003 WC, except both he & Sehwag used to play it regularly back then.

Now that shot in Perth 2007-08 is probably tougher than the upper cut in 2003! Incredible ball watching!!

[vvvslaxman]

10 minutes ago, Stuge said:

Its the tournament and the opposition which matters.

Yes. But i am just looking at the shot in isolation. A fast and wide ball. As long as you have the intent you can hit. Actually there were plenty of shots in that innings that were way better than this one. But this one got the hype because it was six. THe flick of a 151 kph ball for four, few exquisite cover drives a cut shots were all glorious.

[vvvslaxman]

4 minutes ago, Audiophile said:

Problem with Jimmy was his lack of consistency. When he in poor form, he was really poor. But on his day he could go toe to toe with the best batsman of his time.

0,0,0,0,1,0 lol then 4,7 that was a horrible sequence

[Vijy]

4 minutes ago, Audiophile said:

Problem with Jimmy was his lack of consistency. When he in poor form, he was really poor. But on his day he could go toe to toe with the best batsman of his time.

yes, but when he was good, he was amazing.

[rkt.india]

50 minutes ago, Audiophile said:

Sachin faced a much better Pak attack.

not really. Akram and Waqar both were on their last legs and conditions this time were more challenging. 

Edited June 18, 2019 by rkt.india

[rkt.india]

6 minutes ago, Audiophile said:

Now that shot in Perth 2007-08 is probably tougher than the upper cut in 2003! Incredible ball watching!!

This shot is much easier or pacy pitches than slower pitch because pacy pitches provide pace and you dont need to do much and that is why Sehwag's upper cut on Waqar was far tougher than Sachin's on Shoaib as Waqar was bowling 130s and Shoaib in mid to high 140s.  So Sehwag had to generate pace by himself, Sachin did not.  This shot is much easier on fast pitches, fast deliveries than slower pitches and against slower bowlers. 

[vvvslaxman]

4 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

not really. Akram and Waqar both were on their last legs and conditions this time were more challenging. 

supersports park was a belter. ANd also it was a tinier ground. But Tendulkar's shots were (ground shots) pinging of the bat. Fastest delivery on that day was 158 kph to Yuvraj singh. He non chalantly flicked for 4.

[Deleted_User_1]

5 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

not really. Akram and Waqar both were on their last legs and conditions this time were more challenging. 

What? Amir, Hassan et al better than Akthar in his prime an Waqar/Wasim albeit in their twilight? What are you snorting?

[rkt.india]

1 hour ago, Stuge said:

Rohit deserves a lot more credit than he gets in general due to being inconsistent .This has to the first time in his career he looks better than ever before and consistent as well.

how some who is averaging close to 60 as an opener in last 5-6 years can be called inconsistent? Highly stupid for anyone to call him inconsistent.  If he is inconsistent, no batsman in the world can be called consistent then not even Tendulkar.

[rkt.india]

2 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

supersports park was a belter. ANd also it was a tinier ground. But Tendulkar's shots were (ground shots) pinging of the bat. Fastest delivery on that day was 158 kph to Yuvraj singh. He non chalantly flicked for 4.

This pitch was not a belted, ball was sticking in the pitch and had some movement too.

[rkt.india]

1 minute ago, Audiophile said:

What? Amir, Hassan et al better than Akthar in his prime an Waqar/Wasim albeit in their twilight? What are you snorting?

But they got one of the flattest pitch to bowl in 2003 which negated their bowling quality.

[vvvslaxman]

Just now, rkt.india said:

But they got one of the flattest pitch to bowl in 2003 which negated their bowling quality.

Except few matches most of the world cup matches happened on true flat wickets with fast out field and small grounds. If India had batted first in 2003 world cup final India could have pretty much done the same damage in the final. If not 360 atleast 300.