Young upcoming fast bowlers thread.

[rkt.india]

57 minutes ago, MultiB48 said:

Best of luck,dont forget his batting and fielding ,even if he doesnt turn out to be that quick, you can make him into an all round cricketer,someone like  prabhakar,pandya ,pathan,chahar type arent bad ,or for that matter kapil dev!!.

 

As much as i love quick bowling but i have one doubt ,is having a slingy action that good a thing? most of the pacers you have named like lee,johnson,edwards ,thomson have high averages ,only shoaib is low ,maybe it affects the balance of the bowlers, what do you think?

Yes, he does both batting and bowling. Will post batting videos too. 

 

With Slingy action, accuracy can be an issue if you are round arm like Johnson or Tait. Regarding Lee, he is a curious case, he started test cricket with a bang while he is a GOAT ODI bowler, bowled quite accurately, why he couldn't have better figures is puzzling. I think his issue was ER. Otherwise Lee has 4 wickets per test which is quite good. 3.46 is quite high. One more thing Brett Lee played in a very batting friendly era of 2000s. Pitches around the world were flat.

 

I would say if someone is an express pacer and he ends up with a career of 50-60 tests, 150 ODIs then that's a great career for any express pacer. Express pacer isn't just about how much he plays but how he plays. People come to watch such bowlers bowl. 

Edited September 5, 2021 by rkt.india

[Suhaan]

@rkt.india
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@MultiB48
@Mosher
   I asked before,what do you all observe about Khalleels action,i do see a problem in his run-up?but can't figure out

[rkt.india]

If Brett Lee had same ER as Bumrah, he would have been averaging 23. I think this is what you get with aggressive bowlers. They tend to leak runs. Test bowling is all about defensive bowling. Bowlers who don't try too much, stick to the corridor area are more successful in test cricket.  

[express bowling]

20 minutes ago, Suhaan said:

@rkt.india
@express bowling
@MultiB48
@Mosher
   I asked before,what do you all observe about Khalleels action,i do see a problem in his run-up?but can't figure out

 

 

Do you have a recent video ?  I can't find any.

 

He keep modifying things. And that is one of his issues.

Edited September 5, 2021 by express bowling

[rkt.india]

2 minutes ago, Suhaan said:

@rkt.india
@express bowling
@MultiB48
@Mosher
   I asked before,what do you all observe about Khalleels action,i do see a problem in his run-up?but can't figure out

The biggest problem with him is high jump. He is hip dominant, high jump derails him. 

 

https://youtu.be/j03mwxcG0hU

 

 

 

Don't see much problem here. Gives an impression of Starc kind of action. I think he just need more focus and concentration on his strength which pace. Trying to become a swing bowler isn't going to help him. He is still a great prospect.

 

[rkt.india]

9 minutes ago, MultiB48 said:

Yeah but mcgrath also play around that era and kept his er low. 

 

so let me get this right ,slingy means delayed arm and round arm means slightly lower arm/release point?

Lee was more aggressive bowler. You tend to lose control when you try different stuff. McGrath concentrated on his strength, kept bowling in corridor.

[rkt.india]

 

 

Bumrah with different action. Looks good 

[rkt.india]

1 minute ago, MultiB48 said:

yeah but his sr is not that low either ,maybe he req more helpful conditions.

Or lack of control while in ODIs has a great SR and average.

[rkt.india]

Jofra Archer has been overrated. Likes of Woakes and Robinson are better test bowlers than him. Archer has a strike rate of 62 averaging 31 after 13 tests. He is a good ODI bowler.

[rkt.india]

5 minutes ago, MultiB48 said:

Odis are a bit different,he may have got some wickets in the death with the old, dirty white ball back then with the batsmen trying to hit.

He for sure was a great ODI bowler. He was devastating in 2003 WC.

[Suhaan]

1 hour ago, MultiB48 said:

Yeah my fav cricket memories is watching him bowl 150 +

Bas 150+,arey launda 160+,158+ majak majak (i know it takes a lot of effort)me daal raha th uss time

Edited September 5, 2021 by Suhaan

[Suhaan]

8 minutes ago, MultiB48 said:

150+ ka wahi Matlab hai,150 -160.

Mere ko laga near about 150

[Suhaan]

7 minutes ago, MultiB48 said:

Wow 140+ hai,160 to ek adh bar hi hota hai.

>=155 is express,bowlers of that calibur have been rare

Shoiab,Lee,Tait used to bowl 155+ more often than others

With amount of cricket these days and more and more franchise cricket,bowlers don't want to get sidelined for years and loose onto lucrative money offered

[rkt.india]

 

[rkt.india]

Just now, MultiB48 said:

There is a guy from aus, has the potential to hit 100mph ,but is struggling big time , can't remember his name.

Aaron Summers

[Vijy]

2 hours ago, rkt.india said:

Aaron Summers

is he really capable of hitting 100 mph? I have not see him bowl, so I am asking genuinely (not sarcastically)

[rkt.india]

2 minutes ago, Vijy said:

is he really capable of hitting 100 mph? I have not see him bowl, so I am asking genuinely (not sarcastically)

He is quick for sure but can't surely predict about 100 mph until he is measured.

[Lord]

3 hours ago, rkt.india said:

Aaron Summers

 

his career is over

[Suhaan]

4 minutes ago, Vijy said:

is he really capable of hitting 100 mph? I have not see him bowl, so I am asking genuinely (not sarcastically)

He played in some poor paxtany league Na(arse)anal T20 cup

[rkt.india]

2 minutes ago, Lord said:

 

his career is over

He is charged with child sexual offences