Young upcoming fast bowlers thread.

[rkt.india]

TBH, only Vasu Vats looks the real deal in this batch of bowlers. Rahul Kumar should have been in the radar too but he wasn't picked for Challengers. He is unlikely to be picked now.

Edited November 14, 2021 by rkt.india

[express bowling]

1 hour ago, sarchasm said:

Yep.

My initial thought was he looks the future Chahar/Bhuvneshwari in making. Chahar had a similar video doing the rounds 10 years ago.

 

Which ties into my larger point that at this level it's not wise to pick players purely from a performance point of view. This Vijay Yadav simply does not have the ceiling that a Badiani/Rahul Kumar do and it'll be on show 5 years from now - regardless of how comprehensively he outperforms those two.

 

Badiani/Rahul Kumar may have slipped performance wise but I don't too many quicks around who look as promising on a 5-7 year horizon. Aussie set up recognizes this bald fact about quicks and therefore obsessively works to identify and groom such talents without caring about current performances across a handful of matches. Something we direly need to import and copy ourselves.

 

 

We should build a pool of pacers who are 145 kph+ if they are seniors and 140 kph+ if they are U19 ...  and preferably 5'11" + in terms of height and have the ability to hit the deck hard and get bounce.

 

OR 

 

Pacers who are 6'4"+ in terms of height and get steep bounce at sharp enough pace

 

 

Performances should be gauged only among this pool and the best of the lot selected.

 

And even if they are not performing, they should be guided properly and kept in the radar. Like Rahul Kumar and Badiani.

 

 

Too many short medium pacers are seeping through and they will never become top wicket takers at international level. BUT will block important slots that could have gone to proper pacers.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited November 14, 2021 by express bowling

[express bowling]

1 hour ago, rkt.india said:

TBH, only Vasu Vats looks the real deal in this batch of bowlers. Rahul Kumar should have been in the radar too but he wasn't picked for Challengers. He is unlikely to be picked now.

 

Aayush Thakur looks good too.

[rkt.india]

https://youtube.com/shorts/sQYuJLY1cRI?feature=share

 

Vijay Yadav, Chhattisgarh u19.

 

He is highly skilled and has a very good action, will get quicker. Looks to have decent pace for his age. If A skilled bowler can bowl 140 kph, there is nothing better than that in test cricket.

Edited November 14, 2021 by rkt.india

[rkt.india]

https://youtube.com/shorts/tJBPxkBUV64?feature=share

 

Badiani has a very good action. Seems to have bowled good at times but overall has been expensive in this Challengers. Seems like he lacks the endurance to sustain his intensity and pace.

[rkt.india]

https://www.bcci.tv/domestic/33247/challenger-trophy-mens-under-19-one-day-limited-overs-2021-22/stats/best-economy

 

Economy rates.

 

Among the decent prospects, Vasu Vats has the best ER and Badiani and Ayush Thakur the worst. Both top wicket takers Garv Sangwan and Dhanush Gowda have been good too. Both may get picked for Asia Cup. I would also like BCCI to have a quad series including India A and B with SL and BD.

[rkt.india]

https://www.bcci.tv/domestic/33247/challenger-trophy-mens-under-19-one-day-limited-overs-2021-22/stats/best-strikerates

 

Garv Sangwan and Ayush Thakur have the best strike rates.

[rkt.india]

9 minutes ago, sarchasm said:

 

His deliveries have a floating quality.

 

Deepak Chahar had a viral video of his hattrick and 10 wicket haul about 10 years ago. Without any exaggeration, he looked about 10 times as skilled than Vijay Yadav in the video above.

 

And I am happy for Deepak Chahar because he has actually gone on to fulfill his potential and reached his ceiling. But his ceiling is not good enough for tests. Can you see Deepak Chahar succeed in tests? He barely hacks it at Ranji level. That's the job of selectors at U19 level today. To have the eye to spot bowlers who can be sub-30 averaging quicks in all conditions in tests.

If you closely look at every ball in this video, you will find that he is floating only when he is trying to swing the ball and he is looking much quicker than Chahar was 12 years back. He is bending his back too. pitching the ball up doesn't mean just floating. He is in fact reminding me of Nagarkoti, bit taller and more skilled. Pre worldcup, Nagarkoti looked same. Similar type of action too. Even his team mates call him Nagarkoti.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited November 14, 2021 by rkt.india

[express bowling]

2 hours ago, rkt.india said:

https://www.bcci.tv/domestic/33247/challenger-trophy-mens-under-19-one-day-limited-overs-2021-22/stats/best-economy

 

Economy rates.

 

Among the decent prospects, Vasu Vats has the best ER and Badiani and Ayush Thakur the worst. Both top wicket takers Garv Sangwan and Dhanush Gowda have been good too. Both may get picked for Asia Cup. I would also like BCCI to have a quad series including India A and B with SL and BD.

 

 

Bowling averages

 

Ayush Thakur. 16.4

Vasu Vats.       19.6

 

Both have done well and among the top 5 among pacers.

[rkt.india]

1 hour ago, express bowling said:

 

 

Bowling averages

 

Ayush Thakur. 16.4

Vasu Vats.       19.6

 

Both have done well and among the top 5 among pacers.

Look at his ER of 6.43. hope he doesn't turn out to be another Aaron. He to me seems like a slinger and can be very quick in future.

 

 

Edited November 14, 2021 by rkt.india

[Suhaan]

7 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

Look at his ER of 6.43. hope he doesn't turn out to be another Aaron. He to me seems like a slinger and can be very quick in future.

 

 

Where are you getting their videos from?posting in your channel

[express bowling]

26 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

Look at his ER of 6.43. hope he doesn't turn out to be another Aaron. He to me seems like a slinger and can be very quick in future.

 

 

 

 

 

It's too early in their careers to be sad about ERs.

 

Aayush Thakur is bowling quick and taking wickets. 

 

That's something special.

 

 

 

 

[rkt.india]

1 hour ago, express bowling said:

 

 

 

It's too early in their careers to be sad about ERs.

 

Aayush Thakur is bowling quick and taking wickets. 

 

That's something special.

 

 

 

 

I am concerned because it may prevent his selection in WC squad.

[rkt.india]

1 hour ago, Suhaan said:

Where are you getting their videos from?posting in your channel

I screen record whatever video I find from Insta and YouTube.

[rkt.india]

https://youtube.com/shorts/W7MNHE12cbI?feature=share

 

Vijay Kumar from UP is probably the third quickest bowler after Vasu Vats and Ayush Thakur.

 

Vasu Vats, Ayush Thakur, Vijay Kumar, Salaudeen, Hangargekar are all sharp. Others are slow.

Edited November 14, 2021 by rkt.india

[rkt.india]

https://youtube.com/shorts/aBorAdmmwJ4?feature=share

 

Ayush Thakur, Challenger trophy video

[rkt.india]

https://youtube.com/shorts/8MvRmXXJxwI?feature=share

 

Harsh Vardhan from UP is the fiercest fast bowler in India. He is not very tall but very very quick. @express bowling

Edited November 14, 2021 by rkt.india

[express bowling]

35 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

https://youtube.com/shorts/8MvRmXXJxwI?feature=share

 

Harsh Vardhan from UP is the fiercest fast bowler in India. He is not very tall but very very quick. @express bowling

 

 

What is his age and at what level is he playing ?

[express bowling]

1 hour ago, rkt.india said:

https://youtube.com/shorts/aBorAdmmwJ4?feature=share

 

Ayush Thakur, Challenger trophy video

 

 

Looking average in this video.

 

Not that tall either.

 

 

[rkt.india]

9 hours ago, express bowling said:

 

 

Looking average in this video.

 

Not that tall either.

 

 

He is around 6 feet. Looks to have pace but a bit wayward. Though boundary balls won't give the best idea.

Edited November 15, 2021 by rkt.india