Who's is greatest ODI bowler?

[Straight Drive]

Garner

[MechEng]

Wasim Akram no doubt. Far more difficult to play than McGrath in ODIs.

 

 

Edited October 14, 2020 by MechEng

[putrevus]

5 hours ago, rkt.india said:

Garner played in absolutely amateur ODI era, so, very difficult to judge him.

Garner will work in any era due to his height at which he could deliver the ball.He also had ability to bowl yorkers at will.He was not express but quite pacy around 85 to 90. 

[rkt.india]

7 hours ago, putrevus said:

Garner will work in any era due to his height at which he could deliver the ball.He also had ability to bowl yorkers at will.He was not express but quite pacy around 85 to 90. 

There have been taller or similar height bowlers that have played cricket since then. Height does help but that doesn't guarantee greatness. Otherwise Ishant Sharma and Pankaj Singh at 6 feet 6 and hitting 85 mph plus would have been best fast bowlers in India. 

[putrevus]

2 hours ago, rkt.india said:

There have been taller or similar height bowlers that have played cricket since then. Height does help but that doesn't guarantee greatness. Otherwise Ishant Sharma and Pankaj Singh at 6 feet 6 and hitting 85 mph plus would have been best fast bowlers in India. 

Garner was 6'8" height and  his leap which made his delivery point higher than any other bowler other than Pakistani 7 footer or Bruce Reid. He had all the weapons and ability unlike our Ishant Sharma and Pankaj Singh.So height alone was not his reason for greatness.

 

His test stats are testment to his greatness. So he will be great in odis in any era.It does not matter what innovations batsmen have made great bowlers will remain great.Garner would be better than Akram or Mcgrath or any other bowler in odis and T20s.

Edited October 14, 2020 by putrevus

[rkt.india]

5 hours ago, putrevus said:

Garner was 6'8" height and  his leap which made his delivery point higher than any other bowler other than Pakistani 7 footer or Bruce Reid. He had all the weapons and ability unlike our Ishant Sharma and Pankaj Singh.So height alone was not his reason for greatness.

 

His test stats are testment to his greatness. So he will be great in odis in any era.It does not matter what innovations batsmen have made great bowlers will remain great.Garner would be better than Akram or Mcgrath or any other bowler in odis and T20s.

That kind of leap makes bowlers inconsistent, make them lose control. Leap isn't helpful but more detrimental for a bowler.

[Tattieboy]

8 hours ago, rkt.india said:

That kind of leap makes bowlers inconsistent, make them lose control. Leap isn't helpful but more detrimental for a bowler.

A general summarisation!!! 

Can all bowlers bowl off wrong leg? No but Mike Proctor could 

Can all bowlers bowl with slinging action ? No but Thomson and Malinga could 

Can  all bowlers keep control with a leap ? No but Joel Garner could 

BTW I have just scrubbed  Viv Richards , Kapil Dev from records because they  played  in the " absolute amateur era " 

[BacktoCricaddict]

6 minutes ago, Tattieboy said:

A general summarisation!!! 

Can all bowlers bowl off wrong leg? No but Mike Proctor could 

Can all bowlers bowl with slinging action ? No but Thomson and Malinga could 

Can  all bowlers keep control with a leap ? No but Joel Garner could 

BTW I have just scrubbed  Viv Richards , Kapil Dev from records because they  played  in the " absolute amateur era " 

Agree with the gist, but don't remember Garner with a leap.  Holding had a bit of a leap.  Imran had a pronounced leap.  Here's Garner.  No leap.  All class.

 

 

[Tattieboy]

2 minutes ago, BacktoCricaddict said:

Agree with the gist, but don't remember Garner with a leap.  Holding had a bit of a leap.  Imran had a pronounced leap.  Here's Garner.  No leap.  All class.

 

 

If you look at bowlers in general they have some kind of leap some more pronounced than others .

[putrevus]

16 hours ago, rkt.india said:

That kind of leap makes bowlers inconsistent, make them lose control. Leap isn't helpful but more detrimental for a bowler.

He was not leaping 4 feet in the air, it was slight  jump. His main weapon was bounce which he could extract on any type of wicket. It was from good length and chest high bounce which you cannot duck nor play an attacking shot.

 

He would be the greatest odi bowler in any era. People under estimate how great those WI fast bowlers were and how menacing they were as a group.Helmet no helmet it does not matter.Nobody could score freely against them.

 

I don't care which greatest Australian team 1995 to 2005, they would have hard time even winning one match against them in  test series.

[Straight Drive]

16 hours ago, putrevus said:

He was not leaping 4 feet in the air, it was slight  jump. His main weapon was bounce which he could extract on any type of wicket. It was from good length and chest high bounce which you cannot duck nor play an attacking shot.

 

He would be the greatest odi bowler in any era. People under estimate how great those WI fast bowlers were and how menacing they were as a group.Helmet no helmet it does not matter.Nobody could score freely against them.

 

I don't care which greatest Australian team 1995 to 2005, they would have hard time even winning one match against them in  test series.

 

I recall that there was one  test match which was stopped for more than few minutes because his hand was going above the sight screen. He used to deliver the ball from about 12 feet.