UK NHS likely to roll out CoViD 19 vaccine as early as Dec 7.

[Real McCoy]

15 minutes ago, MultiB48 said:

Man i am yet to kill any one but isnt that what they say ,i think in the georgia guide stones it says maintain the human population at 500 million ..so how much would that be given current population is well over 7 billion.

That is their plan. But god has a different plan. As usual man proposes but god disposes. They are under pressure thats why they are moving too fast. This will end up in disaster. Lets hope we don't get caught up in it. This earth can sustain more people. only thing that will do is it will be more problematic for the elite to control us hence the plan.

[Jimmy Cliff]

4 hours ago, BacktoCricaddict said:

4 people in trials got Bell's palsy.  Out of 40,000 who received vaccine or placebo.  1 in 10,000.

Bell's palsy in general population:  3.5 in 10,000.

Media:  Vaccine causes Bell's palsy!  

 

Scientists:  Do the math, fellas.  If anything, the vaccine has 1.5x fewer cases of Bell's palsy.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Jimmy Cliff]

9 minutes ago, Real McCoy said:

That is their plan. But god has a different plan. As usual man proposes but god disposes. They are under pressure thats why they are moving too fast. This will end up in disaster. Lets hope we don't get caught up in it. This earth can sustain more people. only thing that will do is it will be more problematic for the elite to control us hence the plan.

 

There is something major about to happen on Dec 21, 2020. Apparently we are about to enter The Age of Consciousness/ Aquarius. Have heard from multiple sources that this is a very significant event. Have you done any research on this?

[BacktoCricaddict]

6 minutes ago, Jimmy Cliff said:

 

 

 

 

 

Absolutely sad, callous and disgusting that the anti-vaxxers are using the real suffering of people to spread disinformation that will lead to more suffering.  

 

Scientists on the other hand are not trivializing the suffering like you are implying.  They realize that, while this is horrible for those people personally, Bell's palsy occurs at at a higher rate in the general population and it is just as horrible for all of them, not just the ones who took the vaccine or placebo.  

[Jimmy Cliff]

1 hour ago, BacktoCricaddict said:

Absolutely sad, callous and disgusting that the anti-vaxxers are using the real suffering of people to spread disinformation that will lead to more suffering.  

 

Scientists on the other hand are not trivializing the suffering like you are implying.  They realize that, while this is horrible for those people personally, Bell's palsy occurs at at a higher rate in the general population and it is just as horrible for all of them, not just the ones who took the vaccine or placebo.  

 

Absolutely appalling, pathetic and nauseating that the Big Pharma shills are using mathematical sleight of hand and hilarious leaps of logic to trivialize genuine concerns with an experimental vaccine. They claim to be "pro sCiEnCe" but come across as nothing more than stooges for their Big Pharma overlords. 

 

They have no qualms in attributing every death to Covid regardless of any pre-existing condition/circumstances but will conveniently blame all post vaccine adverse effects on "underlying conditions" . Apparently this third rate sophistry is what passes of as sCIenCE these days.

 

All in an effort to unleash a vaccine that has a lower "effective" rate (even though the patient can still be a spreader...so much for it's effectiveness!) than the survival rate of the virus and comes with an assortment of potential adverse effects that can be way more debilitating than the virus itself.

 

 

 

 

 

[BacktoCricaddict]

 

Still no satisfactory explanation for the red line.  

 

 

[BacktoCricaddict]

 

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2034577

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https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2034577

Edited December 10, 2020 by BacktoCricaddict

[Real McCoy]

3 hours ago, Jimmy Cliff said:

 

There is something major about to happen on Dec 21, 2020. Apparently we are about to enter The Age of Consciousness/ Aquarius. Have heard from multiple sources that this is a very significant event. Have you done any research on this?

same thing was supposed to occur on dec 21 2012. consciousness, aquarius, its all a goof. do your own thinking. don't go by "suggestion from experts"

[BacktoCricaddict]

Moderna's vaccine gets FDA nod.  RNA.  >90% efficacy.  Negligible adverse reaction.  More manageable storage logistics (-20 deg C vs -70 deg C).  

 

If this pandemic subsides quickly, thank biotech and bioinformatics scientists for making it happen.   

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-55320467

 

 

[mishra]

On 12/10/2020 at 8:01 PM, Jimmy Cliff said:

 

Absolutely appalling, pathetic and nauseating that the Big Pharma shills are using mathematical sleight of hand and hilarious leaps of logic to trivialize genuine concerns with an experimental vaccine. They claim to be "pro sCiEnCe" but come across as nothing more than stooges for their Big Pharma overlords. 

 

They have no qualms in attributing every death to Covid regardless of any pre-existing condition/circumstances but will conveniently blame all post vaccine adverse effects on "underlying conditions" . Apparently this third rate sophistry is what passes of as sCIenCE these days.

 

All in an effort to unleash a vaccine that has a lower "effective" rate (even though the patient can still be a spreader...so much for it's effectiveness!) than the survival rate of the virus and comes with an assortment of potential adverse effects that can be way more debilitating than the virus itself.

 

 

 

 

 

Aren’t people going to hospital with certain condition and catching corona there and ending up dead?

 

However there is a point. People are dieing because medical staff is not availble to diagnose treat their cancer, diabetes and ither illnesses and they are attributing that to Covid 

Edited December 15, 2020 by mishra

[BacktoCricaddict]

On 12/10/2020 at 3:16 PM, BacktoCricaddict said:

 

Still no satisfactory explanation for the red line.  

 

 

OK, I will go ahead and answer this.  It is really pretty simple and everyone I am sure knows this, but is hesitant to post it.

 

CoViD-19 is real.  If it was not, the number of weekly deaths (including obesity, diabetes, BP) would hold steady year to year like shown for 2015-2019.  But CoViD-19 caused 25% more deaths in 2020.  For people yapping about comorbidities - those comorbidities would not be co-morbidities except for co-Vid.  Yes, those people with diabetes and BP and obesity were more vulnerable than others, but remember, they would still be here if CoViD didn't happen.  If they didn't get CoViD, most of them would not gone to ICU for their BP and diabetes.  They would manage it themselves.  CoViD, not their comorbidities, took them to the hospital and resulted in their death in 2020.  That, is the red line.  

[mishra]

^ Bhai, I know for fact that People in UK are dieing because medical staff is busy treating or standing by for Covid. And i think i read/heard it somewhere that they are counted as Covid death.

Thats the reason why west has so many deaths compared to NOT west

 

[BacktoCricaddict]

2 hours ago, mishra said:

^ Bhai, I know for fact that People in UK are dieing because medical staff is busy treating or standing by for Covid. And i think i read/heard it somewhere that they are counted as Covid death.

Thats the reason why west has so many deaths compared to NOT west

 

 

There is no doubt that CoViD has affected outcomes of other conditions by diverting resources.  But how much?  Here are the numbers:

 

In the US, 30% of EXCESS deaths in 2020 are from non-CoViD causes.   

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/1-in-3-excess-deaths-in-the-us-not-directly-caused-by-covid-19?c=826375660525

 

To put it simply (US only):

Every year, 56,000 people die during the week ending ~Apr 12.

This year, 78,000 people died during that week. 

So, 22,000 more people died. 

15,400 died directly due to CoVid infection.  

6,600 died because CoViD took resources away from them.  

 

 

Edited December 15, 2020 by BacktoCricaddict

[coffee_rules]

6 hours ago, BacktoCricaddict said:

 

There is no doubt that CoViD has affected outcomes of other conditions by diverting resources.  But how much?  Here are the numbers:

 

In the US, 30% of EXCESS deaths in 2020 are from non-CoViD causes.   

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/1-in-3-excess-deaths-in-the-us-not-directly-caused-by-covid-19?c=826375660525

 

To put it simply (US only):

Every year, 56,000 people die during the week ending ~Apr 12.

This year, 78,000 people died during that week. 

So, 22,000 more people died. 

15,400 died directly due to CoVid infection.  

6,600 died because CoViD took resources away from them.  

 

 

Something doesn’t add up. US had lockdowns and rise in deaths. Sweden didn’t have lockdown and deaths are same as last year. Is US fudging numbers?

 

 

https://limitlesscuriosity.com/swedens-annual-deaths-remain-the-same/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

 

Sweden’s Annual Deaths Remain the Same

 

[BacktoCricaddict]

Context:

 

 

Each year around 90 000 Swedes die in total, approximately 250 people a day. In 2019 unusually few Swedes passed away, 89 000. Not since year 1977 have so few people died in Sweden, according to Statistics Sweden. The year before, 2018, 92 000 people died and there was an unusually high number of deaths from the flu.

The yearly death rate also depends on how many people are born each year. In Sweden there were relatively few people born in the 1920s and 30s, but with a higher birth rate in the 40s. We also live longer today than we did a few years ago and the population in Sweden has seen a significant rise during the 2000s. There are, in other words, many reasons why comparisons over a number of years are difficult.

Statistics Sweden has chosen the last five years and created an average of how many people have died per year. The data can then be compared with 2020 and with that measure an excess mortality can be established.

During the 15th week of the year, we saw the highest death rate in Sweden this millenium. A total number of 2505 people, 358 a day, passed away. Not since the first week of year 2000 that many people have died in Sweden. The 14th and 16th week of 2020 is third and fourth respectively on that same list. The month of April is the deadliest in Sweden since the 1990s with 10 458 deaths. You have to go back to December 1993, when 11,057 people died, to find a higher figure. At that time, the flu was unusually malignant. If you go past that month, you have to look back to 1918 and the Spanish flu to find a more deadly month.

 

Edited December 16, 2020 by BacktoCricaddict

[BacktoCricaddict]

They have themselves admitted that they made a mistake with their no-lockdown strategy.  But Kak keeps beating his old drum.  

 

https://www.businessinsider.com/sweden-admits-coronavirus-strategy-underestimated-strenght-virus-lofven-stefan-2020-12

 

Sweden's prime minister has admitted that the country misjudged its response to the second coronavirus surge, as intensive care units in the capital Stockholm become overwhelmed with patients.

Sweden recorded 8,088 deaths from all causes last month, the country's statistics agency announced on Monday. This is the country's second-highest monthly mortality rate on record, behind the Spanish Flu in 1918.

Prime Minister Stefan Lofven told the Aftonbladet newspaper that. "I think that most people in the profession didn't see such a wave in front of them; they talked about different clusters."

 

Lofven's government is gradually shifting away from its resistance to lockdown restrictions and has already imposed a ban on the sale of alcohol after 10 pm and prohibited public gatherings of more than 8 people.

High schools have also been closed for the rest of the term and the government is now drafting emergency legislation that could allow the imposition of lockdowns and business closures.

"We need a few weeks of lockdown to get the numbers down," Tove Fall, Professor in molecular epidemiology at Sweden's Uppsala University said.

"Other countries are taking much higher precautions at lower transmission levels."

The shift towards a more restrictive approach comes after the country's predictions that it would avoid a second wave of the virus were proven wrong.

 

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https://www.factcheck.org/2020/12/anti-vaccine-posts-use-deceptively-edited-video-clip/

 

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Social media pages that share anti-vaccine messages have used a selectively edited news clip that suggests the COVID-19 vaccine is unsafe. The clip shows a nurse fainting after she gets the vaccine, but it doesn’t show her quick recovery afterward when she explains that she is prone to fainting when triggered by even a slight pain.

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Facebook posts fueling suspicion of the COVID-19 vaccine have appropriated a news clip showing one of the first nurses in Chattanooga, Tennessee, to get the shot.

A local NBC affiliate filmed the first vaccinations as they were administered at CHI Memorial Hospital there on Dec. 17. One of the six health care workers to receive the vaccine during that publicity event was Tiffany Dover, a nurse in the hospital’s critical care unit.

“It’s been a hard time,” Dover said about the pandemic. “We’ve persevered through it, but I think that this vaccination offers us hope.”

After getting the shot, Dover began to feel lightheaded and then passed out, which was shown in the news clip.

Shortly afterward, she explained to the TV reporter, “I have a history of having an overactive vagal response and, so, with that, if I have pain from anything — hang nail or I stub my toe — I can just pass out.”

Dover reported that she was “feeling fine” after her fainting episode. “The pain in my arm is very minimal, actually, but it doesn’t take much,” she said, estimating that she has fainted “six times in the last six weeks.”

The hospital issued a s