rkt.india Posted December 10, 2020 Posted December 10, 2020 19 minutes ago, Sean Bradley said: You are wrong, apart from Murali & Warne, some spinners who could really give it a rip were, Stuart Macgill, Brad Hodge, Danish Kaneria, Monty Panesar, Graeme Swann, Saqlain Mushtaq, Mushtaq Ahmed, an earlier era Indian spin trio of Bedi, Prasanna, Venkat, Qadir from Pak, also Daniel Vettori, Paul Adams to name a few. Heck even Virender Sehwag turned the ball more than the spinners from today. Two new balls and batsman friendly conditions have just ensured that there is no incentive left for the bowlers to pursue this beautiful art of spin bowling. But with Kuldeep I still have some hope left. Apart from McGill, none were big turners of the ball. Brad hogg played ODIs only. Kaneria and mushtaq Ahmed were highly dependent on pitches.
Majestic Posted December 10, 2020 Author Posted December 10, 2020 21 minutes ago, rkt.india said: Apart from McGill, none were big turners of the ball. Brad hogg played ODIs only. Kaneria and mushtaq Ahmed were highly dependent on pitches. Abdul Qadir??
rkt.india Posted December 10, 2020 Posted December 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, Majestic said: Abdul Qadir?? He in 80s. He is also quite overrated.
Majestic Posted December 10, 2020 Author Posted December 10, 2020 35 minutes ago, rkt.india said: He in 80s. He is also quite overrated. He has good record in ODIs but in tests, he is so much overrated.
Sean Bradley Posted December 11, 2020 Posted December 11, 2020 (edited) 13 hours ago, rkt.india said: Apart from McGill, none were big turners of the ball. Brad hogg played ODIs only. Kaneria and mushtaq Ahmed were highly dependent on pitches. So according to you Murali is a Chucker, Qadir is overrated, Hogg doesnt count as a turner because he played ODIS only, Kaneria and Mushtaq were not turners because they turned it coz of pitch, so what is Anil Kumble to you, medium Pace Wrist Bowler? Right arm medium Darter? anyways I rest my case here. Edited December 11, 2020 by Sean Bradley
raki05 Posted December 11, 2020 Posted December 11, 2020 18 hours ago, Sean Bradley said: Yes part that and Part that its a dying art...There are no great turners in Test Cricket either who could give it a real rip, Kuldeep is the only torch bearer of the term "spin" on the cricket ball, Yasir Shah is there but he's an old wolf on last leg. Even kuldeep doesn't turn that much and he is mentally not strong as lyon or Rashid. If you see Rashid was getting belted left and right but he never stopped tossing the ball up and giving the loop . You have to trust your strength and what has worked for you when you try lot of things that give sense of lack of confidence.
Sean Bradley Posted December 11, 2020 Posted December 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, raki05 said: Even kuldeep doesn't turn that much and he is mentally not strong as lyon or Rashid. If you see Rashid was getting belted left and right but he never stopped tossing the ball up and giving the loop . You have to trust your strength and what has worked for you when you try lot of things that give sense of lack of confidence. Doesnt turn it that much these days, back in the days when he had just bursted into the scene, even shane warne rated him to be the best in the world. He had the natural drift in the air which i think was the key to his success more than his spin. For any wrist spinner, drift in the air is as essential as turning the ball as it it creates an illusion in the mind of a batsman and beats just enough to take the edge or hit the stumps. raki05 1
R!TTER Posted December 11, 2020 Posted December 11, 2020 21 hours ago, velu said: whoever picks chahal can expect polonium doses form me I prefer ricin
rkt.india Posted December 11, 2020 Posted December 11, 2020 3 hours ago, Sean Bradley said: So according to you Murali is a Chucker, Qadir is overrated, Hogg doesnt count as a turner because he played ODIS only, Kaneria and Mushtaq were not turners because they turned it coz of pitch, so what is Anil Kumble to you, medium Pace Wrist Bowler? Right arm medium Darter? anyways I rest my case here. Kumble wasn't much of a leg spinner. Dependent on variations of pace. Vettori was similar to Kumble.
putrevus Posted December 12, 2020 Posted December 12, 2020 Stats of Kulcha misleading just like stats of our top 3. Those numbers won't amount to anything significant, just make them look better than they actually are. How are top three stats misleading?Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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