Indwin Posted February 26, 2021 Posted February 26, 2021 1 minute ago, coffee_rules said: Ok, this is getting tiring. You said I called the judge anti-national, prove me how. I never said I will prove any thing. Please mention when I pinpointed you that you said judges are deshdrohis but you actually called someone else deshdrohi ans when asked to prove you are running away Under_Score 1
mishra Posted February 26, 2021 Posted February 26, 2021 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Indwin said: Still waiting for you to prove the point which you said you could prove Barakha has views which are anti national. Barakha is married to a pdp politician whose leader is called “Terrorists ki khala”. you can pick any of her talk show, and all she seems to be doing is providing blind support to Anti India congress. In hindsight,people rightly suspect that her Kargil reporting was itself amounted treason( trying to expose Indian armies plan and location) to enemy. Rubaiya Saeeds kidnapping was planned so is Barakhas kargil reporting. Barakha says she loves India and not anti national, but have you seen a thief cslling himself s theif. The reason people do not want to discuss Barakhas anti national activities is because, it’s beyond discussion. She exposed herself thousand of times with views which majority think goes against nations interest. Edited February 26, 2021 by mishra
Indwin Posted February 26, 2021 Posted February 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, mishra said: Barakha has views which are anti national. Barakha is married to a pdp politician whose leader is called “Terrorists ki khala”. you can pick any of her talk show, and all she seems to be doing is providing blind support to Anti India congress. In hindsight,people rightly suspect that her Kargil reporting was itself amounted treason( trying to expose Indian armies plan and location) to enemy. Rubaiya Saeeds kidnapping was planned so is Barakhas kargil reporting. Barakha says she loves India and not anti national, but have you seen a thief cslling himself s theif. The reason people do not want to discuss Barakhas anti national activities is because, it’s beyond discussion. She exposed herself thousand of times eith vorws which majority think goes against nations interest. This seems like your opinion give some evidence bro
mishra Posted February 26, 2021 Posted February 26, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Indwin said: This seems like your opinion give some evidence bro Thats majority opinion. I gave u example of Kargil. You have no idea about Rubaiya Saed case hence you probably missed the point. Disha may be not guilty in eyes of Court but she is guilty in eyes of people. Same is with Barakha but thoussnds times more, because people still will give Disha benefit of doubt as young l, inexperienced, may be trying to survive. But Barakh is as anti national as it can get under legal system Edited February 26, 2021 by mishra
Indwin Posted February 26, 2021 Posted February 26, 2021 8 minutes ago, mishra said: Thats majority opinion. I gave u example of Kargil. You have no idea about Rubaiya Saed case hence you probably missed the point. Disha may be not guilty in eyes of Court but she is guilty in eyes of people. Same is with Barakha but thoussnds times more, because people still will give Disha benefit of doubt as young l, inexperienced, may be trying to survive. But Barakh is as anti national as it can get under legal system You can educate me on that by the way it is not the people but the constitution and courts who can declare someone anti-national
mishra Posted February 26, 2021 Posted February 26, 2021 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Indwin said: You can educate me on that by the way it is not the people but the constitution and courts who can declare someone anti-national Exactly, people do not need to or won’t be able to allways proove it in court as there is no jury system in India. But if it was, a randomly selected english educated middle class jury will give a guilty verdict. Edited February 26, 2021 by mishra
Indwin Posted February 26, 2021 Posted February 26, 2021 5 minutes ago, mishra said: Exactly, people do not need to or won’t be able to allways proove it in court as there is no jury system in India. People are nobody to give certificates of nationalism. Barkha has done more good to India than all Icfers combined Under_Score 1
mishra Posted February 26, 2021 Posted February 26, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Indwin said: People are nobody to give certificates of nationalism. Barkha has done more good to India than all Icfers combined Just becauuse there is no jury doesnt mean judge is only jury. Jury is the people with no influence on judge.Majority people see her anti national and thats that . Your Logic in lay mans term sounds like a minister does so much good so he shouldn’t be punished for shady deals and corruption. Or every politician is clean because he hasn’t been punished by court when it’s exactly otherwise. Edited February 26, 2021 by mishra coffee_rules 1
Indwin Posted February 26, 2021 Posted February 26, 2021 Just now, mishra said: Just becauuse there is no jury doesnt mean judge is only jury. Jury is the people with no influence on judge. The people calling others who have different views and religion a anti national
mishra Posted February 26, 2021 Posted February 26, 2021 6 minutes ago, Indwin said: The people calling others who have different views and religion a anti national Same is true with politician example above. For some they are gods, but for most, they are corrupt scoundrels. Thise treating them gods can’t change majority opinion.
Indwin Posted February 26, 2021 Posted February 26, 2021 5 minutes ago, mishra said: Same is true with politician example above. For some they are gods, but for most, they are corrupt scoundrels. Thise treating them gods can’t change majority opinion. That's what iam saying that both sides have some good things in their favour and some bad things against them. As common citizen one should not have a blind in the organization which he supports otherwise his opinion gets altered by such organisations Unfortunately most of icfers barring a few are blind followers of a particular party.
mishra Posted February 26, 2021 Posted February 26, 2021 Just now, Indwin said: That's what iam saying that both sides have some good things in their favour and some bad things against them. As common citizen one should not have a blind in the organization which he supports otherwise his opinion gets altered by such organisations Unfortunately most of icfers barring a few are blind followers of a particular party. Come with something better than BJP. I will tell you few facts. For example Cut/Commission rate used to be between 1-5% range. Now its 0.1-05% range. And thats massive difference when it comes to contractors implementing large multi million pound project as thats what now they use as profit margin along. Hence you see infra development. No Indian will support article 370 or some path which can be remotely argued to be divisivionary in near or long term future. If you support, you will be branded as antinational. And yes, we are proud Indian and proud of our culture. We want to follow path of Gandhi but we will also follow path of Bose if need be. Later is not preferred optin but dont brand people following later as terrorists because Gandhi follower know that head can only survive if you have strong arms in a illogical opportunistic world. So, if people against the follower of such party can come with alternative option beating above, we will change the opinion. Any SM lecture wont help to other camp.
coffee_rules Posted February 26, 2021 Posted February 26, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Indwin said: Please mention when I pinpointed you that you said judges are deshdrohis but you actually called someone else deshdrohi ans when asked to prove you are running away Here, Edited February 26, 2021 by coffee_rules
Indwin Posted February 26, 2021 Posted February 26, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, coffee_rules said: Here, Where did I pinpoint you rather it was a reply to your quote Edited February 26, 2021 by Indwin
Indwin Posted February 26, 2021 Posted February 26, 2021 (edited) 25 minutes ago, mishra said: Come with something better than BJP. I will tell you few facts. For example Cut/Commission rate used to be between 1-5% range. Now its 0.1-05% range. And thats massive difference when it comes to contractors implementing large multi million pound project as thats what now they use as profit margin along. Hence you see infra development. No Indian will support article 370 or some path which can be remotely argued to be divisivionary in near or long term future. If you support, you will be branded as antinational. And yes, we are proud Indian and proud of our culture. We want to follow path of Gandhi but we will also follow path of Bose if need be. Later is not preferred optin but dont brand people following later as terrorists because Gandhi follower know that head can only survive if you have strong arms in a illogical opportunistic world. So, if people against the follower of such party can come with alternative option beating above, we will change the opinion. Any SM lecture wont help to other camp. Lol using your logic all terrorists can have excuse that they are fighting for their rights Edited February 26, 2021 by Indwin mishra 1
mishra Posted February 26, 2021 Posted February 26, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Indwin said: Lol using your logic all terrorists can have excuse that they are fighting for their rights No wonder you see more and more people leaving the opposition camp. Keep going with this attitude and logic and all you will find is support in illiterate class only. Then again, More and more people are getting educated to. Judging by quality and logic of above response, I am forced to leave this debate, so I will upvote your above post. Edited February 26, 2021 by mishra
Indwin Posted February 26, 2021 Posted February 26, 2021 3 minutes ago, mishra said: No wonder you see more and more people leaving the opposition camp. Keep going with this attitude and logic and all you will find is support in illiterate class only. Then again, More and more people are getting educated to. I am forced to leave this debate, so I will upvote your above post. Well it was basically your proposition so all the dew cedit should go to you for concluding the debate
coffee_rules Posted February 26, 2021 Posted February 26, 2021 5 hours ago, Indwin said: Well it was basically your proposition so all the dew cedit should go to you for concluding the debate Yours is a lame debate. You are asking for proof on Barkha, you say it’s to be proven in court. Of course it can’t be proven as there is no court case. Fact is that IA asked her to be banned near war front proves her irresponsible act. She repeated it again on 26/11 when she gave (allegedly unknowingly ) hints to handlers where some people were hiding so terrorists could go and kill them. Interviewing a Kashmir terrorist, she was caught manipulating his statement that he was fighting for the land of Kashmir, and he corrected her twice that he was fighting for Islam. During KP genocide, she claimed that it was a class war, that Ms were fed up of rich KPs and hence they drove them out of their own homes. of course all this opinion and a popular one at that. It means a lot of people believe that it is true. You as a fan of Barkha could be blind to all that and others are not. Here , we give certificates who is pro or anti India. Because that is what a forum is, a platform to opine. You should come up with a better defense of Barkha than saying we are all bhakts with no proof. Then you call all ICFers as supporters of a party. End of debate. She is a opinion maker or a commentator , who thinks she is a journalist
Indwin Posted February 26, 2021 Posted February 26, 2021 1 minute ago, coffee_rules said: Yours is a lame debate. You are asking for proof on Barkha, you say it’s to be proven in court. Of course it can’t be proven as there is no court case. Fact is that IA asked her to be banned near war front proves her irresponsible act. She repeated it again on 26/11 when she gave (allegedly unknowingly ) hints to handlers where some people were hiding so terrorists could go and kill them. Interviewing a Kashmir terrorist, she was caught manipulating his statement that he was fighting for the land of Kashmir, and he corrected her twice that he was fighting for Islam. During KP genocide, she claimed that it was a class war, that Ms were fed up of rich KPs and hence they drove them out of their own homes. of course all this opinion and a popular one at that. It means a lot of people believe that it is true. You as a fan of Barkha could be blind to all that and others are not. Here , we give certificates who is pro or anti India. Because that is what a forum is, a platform to opine. You should come up with a better defense of Barkha than saying we are all bhakts with no proof. Then you call all ICFers as supporters of a party. End of debate. She is a opinion maker or a commentator , who thinks she is a journalist Lol read carefully I said "most of icfers". There is a difference between "most" and "all". Please back your claims with evidence instead of making lame excuses and writing pointless essays in your post Under_Score 1
Yoda-esque Posted February 26, 2021 Posted February 26, 2021 Looking at some of the brown sepoy mentality on display here,it's easy to realize how invaders easily looted India with a few thousand people. coffee_rules and EnterTheVoid 1 1
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