Jay Posted April 11, 2022 Posted April 11, 2022 5 hours ago, express bowling said: Agarkar was very sharp when he started. Remember him regularly beating Mark Waugh for pace in his debut match . And he had a whippy action which deceived many batters. But his problem was lack of height and bounce. He used to hit the sweet spot of the bat a bit too often and go for runs as s result. Personally I am looking for tall pacers in general unless one is special like Bumrah or express like Umran. Talking about new pacers .... Combining tall bouncy pacers like Prasidh, Khaleel, Akashdeep with quick and skiddy pacers like Sen and Umran, would be nice. And also combining quick seam bowlers ( Prasidh, Akashdeep ) and quick swing bowlers ( Sen ) to cover all bases. ( Although Prasidh can swing the ball too ) Sen looks tall bro? 6'1? Ummy is 5'10. Yes you need tall ones with skiddy medium height bowlers. Minimum of 5'10. Give or take an inch. Steyn - medium height pacy with bounce Morkel -tall bounce based bowler Philtrundler - medium height swing trundler Rabada - tall bounce with swing Bumrah - fast bouncy medium height Shami - medium height fast and bouncy Ishant - tall bounce in his prime Bhuvi - swinger medium height express bowling 1
Jay Posted April 11, 2022 Posted April 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Vijy said: this is why even selectors should be chosen in a competitive manner, i.e., have applications, have training, etc. instead, we just choose a bunch of random nepotistic "buffoons" (as amarnath called them once I think) and trust them to select the best out of 1.4 billion. It is a highly important job, and therefore candidates must be chosen with the greatest care. Yea and kohli tards think selectors are the second coming of jesus.
express bowling Posted April 11, 2022 Author Posted April 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Jay said: Sen looks tall bro? 6'1? Ummy is 5'10. Yes you need tall ones with skiddy medium height bowlers. Minimum of 5'10. Give or take an inch. Steyn - medium height pacy with bounce Morkel -tall bounce based bowler Philtrundler - medium height swing trundler Rabada - tall bounce with swing Bumrah - fast bouncy medium height Shami - medium height fast and bouncy Ishant - tall bounce in his prime Bhuvi - swinger medium height Sen is around 6'2". Suhaan and Mosher 2
express bowling Posted April 11, 2022 Author Posted April 11, 2022 (edited) It's good to see so many tall 140 k+ pacers coming through. Prasidh Sen Tyagi Khaleel Akashdeep Dayal Avesh ... has hardly bowled 140 k this season Mohsin ... not that good yet Edited April 11, 2022 by express bowling Suhaan and Mosher 2
Jay Posted April 11, 2022 Posted April 11, 2022 28 minutes ago, express bowling said: It's good to see so many tall 140 k+ pacers coming through. Prasidh Sen Tyagi Khaleel Akashdeep Dayal Avesh ... has hardly bowled 140 k this season Mohsin ... not that good yet I think mohsin has been written off too early. He has pace. Bit of bounce. But the bowler who impressed me the most apart from sen this year has to be khaleel. When I told Pakistani fans, I am not sure if guys like dhahani, hasan and co are better than khaleel, they laughed lol Khaleel is actually his stated age too unlike them. Mesky99 1
express bowling Posted April 11, 2022 Author Posted April 11, 2022 24 minutes ago, Jay said: I think mohsin has been written off too early. He has pace. Bit of bounce. But the bowler who impressed me the most apart from sen this year has to be khaleel. When I told Pakistani fans, I am not sure if guys like dhahani, hasan and co are better than khaleel, they laughed lol Khaleel is actually his stated age too unlike them. Khaleel needs to run in hard and bowl at full steam ... like he is doing in this IPL If he does this then he is a seriously difficult bowler to face. He has natural bounce and pace ... and has a good yorker and slower ball too. Mosher 1
Mesky99 Posted April 11, 2022 Posted April 11, 2022 2 hours ago, express bowling said: It's good to see so many tall 140 k+ pacers coming through. Prasidh Sen Tyagi Khaleel Akashdeep Dayal Avesh ... has hardly bowled 140 k this season Mohsin ... not that good yet Lalit Yadav from vidharbha is quite tall, has done decently in FC. Who do you think will be selected for the t20 world cup?
Suhaan Posted April 11, 2022 Posted April 11, 2022 7 minutes ago, Mesky99 said: Lalit Yadav from vidharbha is quite tall, has done decently in FC. Who do you think will be selected for the t20 world cup? Looked decent sharp in 16/17 season(iirc debut season) but pace isn't anymore last i saw him express bowling and Mosher 2
express bowling Posted April 11, 2022 Author Posted April 11, 2022 5 minutes ago, Mesky99 said: Lalit Yadav from vidharbha is quite tall, has done decently in FC. He has lost a lot of pace. 5 minutes ago, Mesky99 said: Who do you think will be selected for the t20 world cup? Going by the track record of this selection committee ( favouring big names snd allrounders for big series / tournaments ) I expect Bumrah, Shami, Bhuvi, Hardik and Harshal. But it will be a big mistake not choosing a tall hit the deck pacer for Australia Mosher and Suhaan 2
express bowling Posted April 11, 2022 Author Posted April 11, 2022 Hope Tyagi gets to play today. Mosher and Suhaan 2
Suhaan Posted April 11, 2022 Posted April 11, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, express bowling said: He has lost a lot of pace. Going by the track record of this selection committee ( favouring big names snd allrounders for big series / tournaments ) I expect Bumrah, Shami, Bhuvi, Hardik and Harshal. But it will be a big mistake not choosing a tall hit the deck pacer for Australia How will they play both Chahar and Harshal in Australia? I know they will play them together in the name of batting cushion, bowling will look piss poor with those names in Australian conditions Edited April 11, 2022 by Suhaan tweaker, Mosher, rollingstoned and 1 other 1 3
express bowling Posted April 11, 2022 Author Posted April 11, 2022 19 minutes ago, Suhaan said: How will they play both Chahar and Harshal in Australia? I know they will play them together in the name of batting cushion, bowling will look piss poor with those names in Australian conditions If Bumrah has a niggle then don't be surprised if they play Bhuvi, Harshal and Deepak as the 3 pacers. This has happened in the past. SandeepMotta, Mosher and Suhaan 1 2
SandeepMotta Posted April 11, 2022 Posted April 11, 2022 2 hours ago, express bowling said: If Bumrah has a niggle then don't be surprised if they play Bhuvi, Harshal and Deepak as the 3 pacers. This has happened in the past. Don't forget Lord Shardul. He will definitely play because he can bat. express bowling 1
express bowling Posted April 11, 2022 Author Posted April 11, 2022 27 minutes ago, SandeepMotta said: Don't forget Lord Shardul. He will definitely play because he can bat. We have quick bowlers like Bumrah, Shami, Siraj Prasidh, Umesh, Sen, Umran, Tyagi, Khaleel, Akashdeep, Avesh, Dayal etc. .... but may see Bhuvi, Deepak, Shardul and Harshal playing together and floating the ball up on the bouncy decks of Australia. Really sad ! tweaker, rollingstoned, Suhaan and 3 others 3 3
Chakdephatte Posted April 11, 2022 Posted April 11, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, express bowling said: We have quick bowlers like Bumrah, Shami, Siraj Prasidh, Umesh, Sen, Umran, Tyagi, Khaleel, Akashdeep, Avesh, Dayal etc. .... but may see Bhuvi, Deepak, Shardul and Harshal playing together and floating the ball up on the bouncy decks of Australia. Really sad ! What have quick bowlers Shami, Umesh, Umran, Sen, Prasidh done to be even considered. Siraj, I agree, somewhat. Edited April 11, 2022 by Chakdephatte
express bowling Posted April 11, 2022 Author Posted April 11, 2022 4 minutes ago, Chakdephatte said: What have quick bowlers Shami, Umesh, Umran, Sen, Prasidh done to be even considered. Siraj, I agree, somewhat. Prasidh, Shami and Umesh are bowling excellently with the new ball. They are picking early wickets which is a big headache for our T20I side often. One among the 3 can be in the 11 and Bumrah and Harshal can handle death bowling. We need a hit the deck quick pacer like Prasidh in Australia, bowling in the early and middle overs. Sen has just had a wonderful debut snd displayed really good white ball and death bowling skills. Of course, he has to do it over an extended period of time to be considered ... but he is an experienced domestic pacer with skills and I am hopeful. Umran can not get a berth in this T20 World Cup unless he improves dramatically. He is still very raw. But what can happen with such express pacers is ... if they understand which areas to bowl at then they can suddenly become unplayable Mosher, raki05, Sgattick10 and 1 other 1 3
Chakdephatte Posted April 11, 2022 Posted April 11, 2022 (edited) 33 minutes ago, express bowling said: Prasidh, Shami and Umesh are bowling excellently with the new ball. They are picking early wickets which is a big headache for our T20I side often. One among the 3 can be in the 11 and Bumrah and Harshal can handle death bowling. We need a hit the deck quick pacer like Prasidh in Australia, bowling in the early and middle overs. Sen has just had a wonderful debut snd displayed really good white ball and death bowling skills. Of course, he has to do it over an extended period of time to be considered ... but he is an experienced domestic pacer with skills and I am hopeful. Umran can not get a berth in this T20 World Cup unless he improves dramatically. He is still very raw. But what can happen with such express pacers is ... if they understand which areas to bowl at then they can suddenly become unplayable Shami and Umesh experiment did not work earlier, it will not work now. They are different bowlers in Indian T20 outfits. Prasidh is not a 4 over bowler. Avesh is a full toss specialist. And how can Umran, Prasidh, Kuldeep, etc. eclipse the likes of Kartik Tyagi or even Arshdeep? They came earlier and are better too. Edited April 11, 2022 by Chakdephatte
express bowling Posted April 11, 2022 Author Posted April 11, 2022 28 minutes ago, Chakdephatte said: Shami and Umesh experiment did not work earlier, it will not work now. They are different bowlers in Indian T20 outfits. Prasidh is not a 4 over bowler. Avesh is a full toss specialist. And how can Umran, Prasidh, Kuldeep, etc. eclipse the likes of Kartik Tyagi or even Arshdeep? They came earlier and are better too. Tyagi is too raw. He has rhythm issues every other match. Arshdeep is a floaty bowler and we already have an overload of them. Mosher and Suhaan 2
Suhaan Posted April 11, 2022 Posted April 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Chakdephatte said: What have quick bowlers Shami, Umesh, Umran, Sen, Prasidh done to be even considered. Siraj, I agree, somewhat. Umesh is done and dusted for LOIs not going to get considered Sen is one IPL match old,above poster won't be endorsing him for Australia event , he's one of the most wise poster here,same for Umran, he's too raw ,he will go through A matches first Prasidh has done well the matches he played in So Prasidh is very well "on" here,his height and bounce alone boards him a flight to Australia this WC express bowling, Chakdephatte, Mariyam and 1 other 1 3
Chakdephatte Posted April 11, 2022 Posted April 11, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Suhaan said: Umesh is done and dusted for LOIs not going to get considered Sen is one IPL match old,above poster won't be endorsing him for Australia event , he's one of the most wise poster here,same for Umran. Never had any doubt. But the truth is, our true fast bowlers except Bumrah don't have T20 skills. None of Shami, Umesh, Prasidh have good slower one. Avesh, I don't think is that fast although bowling in rythm this year. Shouldn't be counted among Bhuvi types. Our medium pacers are better. 1 of 2. Edited April 11, 2022 by Chakdephatte
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